Believe NOTHING you see. hear. or read, in the "media". EVERYTHING is propaganda.

When an atheist liberal asks questions like this, it's only to divert and trap the conversation. It's meaningless if the libtard is a non-believer and the answer will be meaningless. Just like gays attempting to find flaws in the Bible in order to justify their behavior. If you are a non-believer, what difference does it make?

"Would Jesus be a liberal or a conservative?" can be answered by anyone. How people answer will depend on their own beliefs. You don't have to be a Christian to answer and there are no wrong answers. You do need to think. So why not answer the question instead of trying to analyse the person who asked?

Many people post. And if anyone drifts left of center for some people they are the enemy and lumped together as if only one person is posting. Those of you who have read a bit and seen a bit know that creating a bogeyman keeps certain groups together and keeps them angry. That is comfortable for them.

The intent of my question was to learn about others but the only thing I learned is that people are more afraid of looking foolish or being wrong then going outside their comfort zone.

I didn't answer because I don't believe in Jesus, Paul made the whole thing up, well most of it, he really IS Christianity. So, the correct question is...what would Paul do?

Was Paul a liberal or conservative? And why do you think so?

How response be made when comparing the influence of the permissive, promiscuous values of today VS the restritictive influences and values of people who lived back then.

Other than opinion and speculation there can not be a valid comparison.

Believe ONLY what you read on TOTV Politics forum! :boom:

Very interesting . Just happens that my " Myers Briggs " results over the decades always comes up aligned with the attributes you describe above however my politics since age 18 have always aligned with the Republicans .
Also I was raised in a Blue Collar Catholic family . My Dad was a Union Official in his local and my Mom held local office as a Dem .
They had 4 children . All went to college and paid for 100% of it themselves . All 4 went on to a Graduate Degree . One is a Teacher , one became a Chief Executive Officer of a publicly traded company , one became a senior executive of a publicly traded financial institution , one became an engineer and a senior manager in a technology company .
Yet unbeknown to one another until recently , all 4 of us at age 18 became and remain registered Republicans . This simple example of one family blows apart your high tone theory that the " thinking and highly educated citizens " among us will gravitate to the D-Party .

"It is up to each person to recognize his or her true preferences."
Isabel Briggs Myers

You do understand that the quote is not mine.
Liberals, conservatives, and personality traits
Posted By Steve Bogira on 08.18.11 at 01:27 PM is the source I quoted.

The other quote from the same article I cut and pasted that you did not mention was
"A study in American Political Science Review in 2005 went further: its authors focused on identical and non-identical twins, and found that “political attitudes are influenced much more heavily by genetics than by parental socialization.”

That your siblings all came to the same conclusion is in alignment with the study in American Political Science Review in 2005. Wouldn't you agree?

I don't know what to think for sure. That's why I do research. It's either nature or nurture or both. I think it's both.

TROLL bait.

But ONLY what is written by me! :boom::boom:
:boom:

Other things beside political affiliation is determined by genes, only it's forbidden to talk about it. They'll destroy our way of life, and we're not allowed to talk about it. They're the majority now...over 50% of school enrollees are...or were..."minorities".

Guess we have to start calling whites the minority now. So do we get affirmative action and quotas now?

You can believe what you choose to believe, but you can't change facts and history. Jesus was a historical figure, whether you believe him to be God or not. I doubt that Paul wrote the Koran. And I doubt Paul installed Jesus in Jewish historical documentation. It would be an elaborate scheme to motivate the whole middle East into believing in Jesus. Have you ever visited the caves of Cappadocia? Caves full of ancient paintings on the ceilings and walls of JESUS. SO, you go ahead and foolishly believe in a big conspiracy. After all, liberals believe in the big Republican conspiracy against Hillary. Everyone LIBERAL knows that she did no wrong.

To answer the trolls question as to whether Jesus was liberal or conservative, exactly when did these two political ideologies originate? I'll let you answer your own question, as I know what I believe.

Jesus claimed to be deity. He professed to be God. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

But, your question is just bait and diversion. But, it does prove the title of the thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_a...-handed_people
Forced use of right hand
Western countries[which?] also attempt to convert left-handed children due to cultural, social and religious biases. Schools[where?] tend to urge children to use their right hands, sometimes against the wishes of the child's parents. In America it was[when?] not uncommon for students to be physically punished for writing with their left hands:[28] "I was educated in the USA in Catholic school in the 60s. My left hand was beaten until it was swollen, so I would use my right right [sic] hand" ... "I had a teacher who would smack my left hand with a yardstick every time she caught me writing with my left hand" ... "My fourth grade teacher [...] would force me to use my right hand to perform all of my school work. If she caught me using my left hand, I was hit in the head with a dictionary. It turned out that she believed left handers were connected with Satan."[40]

That wasn't that long ago. I'll bet we all have stories about left handed people. Now it seems ridiculous to think adults once felt that handedness was a sign of inferiority.

With information opinions can change if you are open minded. I haven't met too many open minded nuns.

Actually, outside of "The Church" Jesus ISN'T a historical figure. No contemporaries outside of "Christianity" ever heard of them. A few references that "could" be talking about him, but NOTHING substantial.

How did Mohammad spread Islam? You say it can't be done. Paul spread Jesus and Christianity. Constantine made it "the world religion" when he politically declared that Rome would be Christian...HIS Christianity. A nice blend of Judaism and Paganism.

You've been TOLD those things since birth, that's why you believe them. You've been brainwashed since an infant, it's hard for you to change.

What you believe is most probably wrong.

Left handed people ARE different than right handed people. Studies have show it. Most of the presidents have been left handed. Autism is also higher. There are differences. Real quantifiable differences.

There are genetic differences between the races too...big differences in abilities, just like between right and left handed people.

I haven't met too many open mined liberals. They refuse to discuss certain topics. How about you?

What topics do you want to discuss?

Left Handed Presidents
Although determining which presidents were left handed before the 20th century is a difficult, if not impossible, task.


Read more at Which Presidents Were Left Handed?

Jesus is the most famous person in the world — according to the Internet.

A study by researchers in the U.S. ranked famous individuals using a specially developed algorithm that would see how famous they remained 200 years after their death.

Jesus topped the list, followed by Napoleon, then Mohammed, The Independent newspaper reported.

The first American on the list is Abraham Lincoln, who came in fifth. He was closely followed by George Washington, who was sixth, one place ahead of Adolf Hitler.

The study was carried out by Steven Skiena and Charles Ward, who ranked individuals by looking at data sources, just as Google looks at Web sources.

Barack Obama came 111th, 10 places ahead of Madonna. Bob Dylan was 130th.

Pop star Justin Bieber finished in 8,633rd.

"The significance of Jesus is shown by his mindshare today fully 2,000 years after his death. We don't see the same happening for Justin Bieber," Skiena told The Independent.

Left handed people ARE different than right handed people.

I said that we no longer believe they are inferior. Would you agree?

What topics do you want to discuss?

Originally Posted by Guest View Post
What topics do you want to discuss?
Left handed people ARE different than right handed people.

I said that we no longer believe they are inferior. Would you agree?

What topics do you want to discuss?

I got myself mixed up cutting and pasting. I asked what topics do you want to discuss 2 times. I didn't answer myself with another question on purpose. sorry

You saying so does not make your blather the truth. Jesus is referenced by the Muslim as a profit. Jews have documentation of Jesus of Nazareth. If you think that Jesus is a fabric of someone's imagination, then you are really brainwashed by loonies. There is all kinds of evidence that a person named Jesus (as from the Bible) existed. Whether or not you believe he is God, is up to you, but saying he didn't exist does not make it so. I realize it is convenient to hope he didn't exist, in order to justify your live, lifestyle or whatever, but the facts support his existence.

And by the way, I would rather believe and be wrong, then to deny his deity and be wrong. I have nothing to lose, whereas you have your afterlife at stake.

Are you smarter than the majority of fellow Americans? Because the majority of Americans believe.

Absolutely, no question, tons of them in Mexico!

You know what they say when you get into a urinating contest with a skunk?

Mohammad created, yes, created, Islam in 610, more than 500 years after "Jesus" Christianity had grown by then. I'm not saying Christianity didn't become popular. I'm saying it's based on Paul. Paul "created" through a false history, the "ultimate prophet", THE savior everyone was looking for. Prophets were a dime a dozen back then. A third? More? of the NT is almost directly from Paul.

Jesus didn't write anything...why the hell not!...His disciples didn't directly write anything, nobody did while he was alive. Nobody witnessed and wrote about ANYTHING Jesus supposedly did while alive. EVERYTHING is written at least 30 years after his death. Most almost 100. Look it up, the John, Matthew, in the NT did not know Jesus personally. Why not have the REAL disciples books in the Bible?

Why didn't "God" write anything down for us? A MAN, Muhammad lies about it (is it truly from God?) and Islam spreads like wildfire. Why didn't the "real God" do at least the same?

You should question your belief if you're going to base your life on it.

Where is the Jewish documentation about Jesus? Josephus? A few passing references that COULD have talked about Jesus, all written as memoirs many years later.

The Jews are STILL waiting for the savior, they obviously didn't believe Jesus was the one.

If you have other proof, contemporary proof, NOT from the church, lets see it. There is none. No Roman record of Jesus, no trial, no crucifixion, no burial, no RISING from the burial. Nada, zilch. It's like he never existed until Paul starts writing about him. Paul made him up like Muhammad made up Islam.

No, the FACTS don't support his existence, only the "Christianity Industry" says he existed.

You're living your life based on several thousand year old myths, perpetuated by those who would seek a 10% tithing. You've been hoodwinked!

Yes, actually I AM smarter than most Americans my IQ tests from 132 to 138, how about you?

IQ Test Scores: The Basics of IQ Score Interpretation
IQ Percentile
120 91
125 95
130 98
135 99

I'm not real good with people "on line", I come across as a pompous ******* sometimes, but you should listen.

I don't think you're pompous.

Just an ass...right? :icon_wink:

That's it?

"Faith"...right? Just have to have faith...

No--I didn't grow up in the country.

Clearly you believe that you are a higher life-form than the rest of us .

Get many dates ? :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

Beware those who feel the neccessity to parade qualifications and braggadocio about one's self instead of letting the actions speak for themselves.

Jackson ? Jackson ? I always thought Jackson WAS a BLACK NAME You got your Michael Jackson , your Reggie Jackson , your Rev. Jackson , some old woman singer named Jackson .
Why do we need to take a Jackson off the Bill when it is already such a popular Black name ?
Also why not put the first Black President on the Bill you know Willie Clinton . His middle name is Jefferson and that`s a popular Black name too !
Could someone please explain this situation --- like maybe that high IQ lady ? Thanks

Good luck. You're betting your IQ is more superior than faith and belief.

Job 11:12
"An idiot will become intelligent When the foal of a wild donkey is born a man."


Proverbs 16:25
"There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death."


Ecclesiastes 10:2-3
"A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him toward the left. Even when the fool walks along the road, his sense is lacking and he demonstrates to everyone that he is a fool."

Like I said before, the majority believes so there must be something to faith other than mass hysteria. But, it's your choice. Perhaps you are too SMART to believe in a superior entity? I wonder how you feel when you discover those that have a higher IQ than you, that also have FAITH. It must be very confusing for you.

Numbers of academic or personal being in no way assure one's intelligence or smartness. The one's who profess such are to be viewed like a red flag waving!!!!

A guarantee there is something amiss in one's life when they feel compelled to shore themselves up in some manner.

I do not steal, I do not bear false witness against my neighbor, nor do I covet someone else's wife...but I do not do those things for myself - not some make believe God. Possibly you could take your tambourine and start a new tread about "How You Love the idea of GOD". This thread is about oblivion (mostly racial tensions)...

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

I added a couple commas to hopefully make that easier to read, not enough coffee this morning, SORRY!

Hey, I respect you for being a good person. Being a good person doesn't get you to heaven when you croak. But, it your ego is greater than the majority of the World, that's your problem. Does my belief make me a weaker person?

Why stock up on ammo? What are you afraid of? By the way, I went shooting yesterday and hardly put a dent in my ammo supply. But, I really do need to start rotating my old ammo for new.

Only swearing allegiance to a myth does?

Yes, actually it does. You've passed off responsibility for your life and actions. You "passed the buck". What now happens to you is "divine intervention". It's "God's doing" not yours.

Do you really WANT to live in a world where there are gangs of hunters going out to rob for survival? Where you have to be vigilant and protect your property at all times? No thanks...

Good luck friend, because you NEED luck. I'll take my divine intervention over luck any day. If that makes me weak, so be it. It got me through Vietnam, Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom, as well as 13 years law enforcement, and construction work at heights of over 780ft. Not bragging, just giving someone else the credit for it.

Friend, I have rifles and pistols in my home, but not because I am worried about Doomsday. If I was concerned with survival, I would have stayed in the woods in the Carolinas. If I ever need a gun, I'll take it from the bad guy. Even at my age.

Why don't you worry about our government, the economy, ethics and morals instead of being paranoid and sitting around cleaning your guns? A gun isn't going to do you any good when there is no food produced to take. And that is the only reason for a gun, to survive by getting your food. When everyone quits working and the farming is outsourced to South America, doomsday won't matter. All you will need is one bullet, for yourself. But, you better get right with GOD before you use that one last bullet.

Hey Hey some good points but you forgot to mention :
1] The whole Jackson family
2] and you got Willie Jefferson Clinton but also The Jeffersons you know George Jefferson and Louizze and their son ---- they " moved on up " probably they voted Republican you know ?:a040:

That is odd, I was under the impression taking your own life is a sin...one that is different from all the other sins YOU have committed in life, as it is the only sin you can't ask forgiveness for.

But you would know better than me, cause I just do the good things in life for myself.

STOCK UP ON AMMO! Because when the people with a sense of entitlement get hungry, they are going to take from those that have it (and they don't care if you believe in God or not!).