So why do you keep voting for them and not a 3rd party or independent? You KNOW they're liars yet you vote for them...why? To keep the other liar from getting elected? Vote for whom you WANT to win, not a liar that's place there for you!

I didn't write both posts. I don't believe everyone is lying all the time. I know the difference between a fact and an opinion.

I vote based on ideology. Not based on good looks, speaking ability, color or gender. I don't know you either, and you may be a serial liar. I don't vote for what the candidate offers me, either. I vote for the one that best seems to care about the condition of the country. AND, I am not foolish enough to throw my vote away on principle. Do you think that voting for Micky Mouse on principle means anything to anyone but you? NO. No one cares, and it will not stop one of two from being elected. Might as well vote for the lesser of two evils, or the best of the worst and hope for the best.

That's logical.

Can it be any clearer? Yes, it could be just clear away the political mud.
Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton committed no crime

Innocent until proven guilty. That isn't the law. It is only a suggestion.

There is no question that Clinton is guilty. The question is if anyone else associated with such guilt is covered enough to allow her to be prosecuted. In other words, is Obama and other big wig elites sufficiently protected when she attempts to bring them all down with her, like she threatened. She knows she is guilty. Otherwise, why would she threaten others and why would she emphasize the same repetitious statement that "I did not transmit or receive any emails that were MARKED classified? Like she knew the information was classified, but it wasn't marked. That way, she could adamantly state that she did not lie, when she is found guilty and arrested.

Listen...ANY candidate that runs under either the D or R party banner, with their blessing, is a bought and paid for "tool" that works for their party and the corporations. Period. There is no "ideology" for them except power and money. Period.

You may find a 3rd party or an independent with an ideology, but not any of the D or R candidates.

What's with the rest of your post? All this Micky Mouse crap? Who said anything about voting for Micky Mouse? Vote for a 3rd party or independent.

They've defeated you before you even go to vote. You've resolved yourself that what YOU want doesn't matter. It does, it's the most important thing you can do, vote for whom YOU want to win.

Hope for the best? It'll NEVER happen because they work for them. You have 1 lousy vote, it's not going to change anything alone. Your vote for a 3rd party won't change anything. But if EVERYONE did, it would.

How can people be so blind as not to see that they place "their guy" on the ballot, it's fixed, and you WON'T change it.

Trump isn't the answer either, he's in with the bankers.

Are you kidding? You must be a woman to think that was logical. Give up and vote for their evil? That's logical? Is that how you go through life? If the competition is too tough, you just give up and hand them whatever they want? Can't beat the Ds or Rs so join them? No, you fight them by NOT voting for their POS "evil candidate".

I was being sarcastic and it went over your head.

[QUOTE=Guest;1201317Are you kidding? You must be a woman to think that was logical. Give up and vote for their evil? That's logical? Is that how you go through life? If the competition is too tough, you just give up and hand them whatever they want? Can't beat the Ds or Rs so join them? No, you fight them by NOT voting for their POS "evil candidate".[/QUOTE]
Now I get it--you were being sarcastic with me and it went over my head. I apologize, I feel ashamed.

You are kidding right? No one with any semblance of a brain would think that they are contributing by doing nothing. I would use some derogatory terms to describe my derision for you, but that would be deemed nasty and insulting. But, I am glad of one thing that I have learned from you. I have always thought that some folks should not be allowed to vote, because of their ignorance. You confirmed my theory and I am glad that you won't be voting for anyone viable for the position. Your wasted vote is just fine with me. Hope you get an immense satisfaction either not voting or voting for yourself. ..........:1rotfl:.......:clap2:

Another expert on the law. Lol.

It doesn't take an expert of the law to know what your job is, and the laws and rules that guide that job. I do know more about classified information handling than Hillary, but that is also obvious. If you want the laws/codes she violated and form numbers of the documents that she signed under oath, I can provide them AGAIN. I have provided them on here several times already, but either you are just being an @ss or you haven't been on here much.

To say that I know more than she does, may be that I have had more training and handled classified longer than her. I know for instance that TS material does not leave a SCIF. I also know that there are special handling restrictions on moving classified information out of a secured facility. Classified information is handled with more caution than the chain of custody of trial evidence.

But, you can defend her all you want. She might even get off scott free, which would not be a surprise. But, she IS a criminal whether convicted or not.

You THINK you're clever. You're being played. Your vote is the wasted vote because both the D and R parties are corrupt. Go ahead little lamb, do as you're told. Pick either one of the corrupt candidates that have been hand selected to steal from you.

I do get immense satisfaction knowing that at least I voted for whom "I" wanted, not some bought and paid for liar that is going to steal from all of us and give it to their "donors". You bitch and complain, yet you won't do anything to change things. Baaah baaah

Love when people show their lack of intelligence. Congratulations.

Other than getting your spelling correct, what did YOU show with that comment?

I won't call you stupid, because it wouldn't be nice. However, you are not showing an iota of intelligence. But, I can see that your motive for such idiotic rhetoric is your need for attention.

It's obvious that you are baiting with your ridiculous remarks. Being played? They're both corrupt? You get satisfaction from voting for no one? How charming. Such a little mind and yet you still waste what there is of it. Perhaps you should have listened to your momma when she told you that you would go blind if you continued that behavior. :D

Baaahhh baaahhh...off to your shearing.

Troll

Donald Trump threatens to 'spill the beans' on Ted Cruz's wife Heidi - CNNPolitics.com

I agree with this point of view. The above is not a healthy for politics in general. It does keep people engaged.

The one and only real scandal was sex in the White House. But the Republicans spent millions of dollars investigating White Water, Hillary's stock trades and Vincent Fosters suicide....I could go on.

Now during this administration we have had lawsuits and blocking most, if not all bills and court justices.

Judge not: GOP blocks dozens of Obama court picks - POLITICO

Not to mention the pocket veto the Repub.'s love so much.

Now even the Repub.'s have to deal with the Freedom Caucus comprised of 40 Tea Party congressman who oppose everything in the House.

The one and only reason I do not wish to vote for Hillary is the prospect of 8 years of investigations.

As for Trump the United States of America has held true to a policy against Torture until George W Bush,his Attorney General approval, started water boarding.

Clearly I wish the GWB never attacked a country that had NOT attacked the USA. Then perhaps my nephew would not be heading to the Middle East for a 7 month tour. This would make 4 nephews fighting in the middle east multiple times and 1 Purple Heart.

Hoping my family does not collect another!

Thank-you for the sacrifices your family has made. They will be in my prayers. My friends son is now over there too and my nephew has also been there.

Sorry about your nephews serving their country. I suppose they got drafted? No, not drafted? You mean they actually joined the armed forces in order to NOT serve? I bet they are very disappointed in you.

No torture until GW? Ha, ha, ha, ha, what a funny thing to say. You obviously did not serve in any conflict. I witnessed some horrific torture in Vietnam, but it worked. Probably saved thousands of lives. But, you liberals, that know nothing about anything, can argue how something can't be done, didn't work, or it's your right.

Do you really think that there would be any investigations IF Hillary was to get elected? Use your head. Or, go ask whomever is feeding you this trash. You act like it is a big Republican conspiracy. The FBI is NOT run by the Republicans. The Attorney General is run by Obama, so if anything is going to happen to Hillary, it will be with Obama's approval.

No, feel free to vote for your criminal, lying, tax cheating candidate. Or, vote for the socialist pervert that just confirmed his inability to change when he made a lewd comment about a woman in the audience the other day.

Don't vote for a candidate that has sworn to protect you from terrorists and illegal aliens that invade our country, take jobs, commit crimes and use up our resources. Don't even think about voting for the other candidate that swears he will lead using the Constitution.

No, go vote for who you were told to vote for by your handlers.

I can't find that online. What did he say?

How could one person say so many silly stupid things? Are you for real or you just trying to stir things up?

Any you know this because of your extensive research? Fox News?:ohdear:

Do you know how stupid you sound?

Do YOU know how stupid YOU sound?

Stupid = lacking intelligence or common sense.

I'm afraid you have it all wrong. It is you that is "lacking in intelligence" by not knowing the facts. Your apology is accepted.
Your lack of common sense is displayed when you make such statements, without first checking to see if in fact the other person is incorrect in his statement. Not only does that make you lacking in common sense, but ignorant of the facts and stupid.

And NO, I did NOT get this information from FOX News. I observed and listened to Bernie's speech. I will let you check it out, but I will give you a hint. It's what he said about a certain young lady in the audience, that was lewd.

Perhaps you need a refresher on the vocabulary that you choose to use in your comment. My comment is merely an observation based on facts. You, on the other hand, chose to attack because I implied something that doesn't set right with your weak ideology. So, please don't take this the wrong way when I say, you can kiss my *****. Please take it exactly how I meant it. :kiss:

Ho-hum!

The kids are at it ....again!

Now more than ever--remember what candidates say about each other. I see the point that so often they speak the truth now which often then disappears later in the course of a campaign.

Dear Guest:

Thank you for expressing your point of view. It is difficult to do so in these times of political correctness, trigger warnings, micro agressions and a clamoring for safe spaces.

Its difficult to do so also because leaders in every endeavor work to build their collectives which they can control easily. They fear individual thought because individuals speak out against tyranny of any kind. These same collectives push for increase federal control whereas individuals lean toward power being returned to the states as our founders intended.

I infer from your comments that you were a Vietnam vet. It sickened me to see these same collectives inappropriate response to fighting men and women during that era and now. I served but never went overseas. My cousin, a patriot, served 4 years in the Air Force and then opted for two tours of duty fighting in Nam and died at a young age because of injuries suffered back then.

I fear for this nation's existence because the enemies within have taken control of our learning institutions and government and by indoctrination building their collectives so that individual thought is about distinguished, ergo the responses they you received following your comments.

You are correct about Hillary and that she will be granted cover unless and until Obama clears his connection to her acts of omission and commission. Obama has used many federal agencies to do his bidding IRS, FCC NLRB, EPA DOJ, etc. But collectives drink the kool aid worse yet are just so disengaged that they remain unaware of all this political intrigue.
Thank you again .

Personal Best Regard:

:agree:

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

This has been going on forever...those in power have used propaganda to brainwash the citizens, since the first guy took power.

Thank you!

Can you give us an example of how you personally have been micro-aggressed?

Microaggressions are the everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, which communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized group membership.

That was a new word for me.

Aren't Senior Citizens a marginalized group membership? Have you ever been insulted just because you are old?

I have to admit that I have never been insulted in relation to my age. And I have worked with many young people. They have always shown me respect, even when kidding me about my age. And I have traveled all over the world and met a lot of people in my lifetime. I am sure that it happens all the time, but I guess I have been blessed. Or, maybe I have not warranted that kind of disrespect as to be insulted over my age. Of course, I am a young 66 so I have a ways to go before I am really considered old..8^)

I have also been treated with respect. Compared to most people my age I am wealthy. Do you think that makes a difference?

NO it does not.

There are far too many with or with out being wealthy that are just what they are....nasty, ill tempered, impatient, get outta my way, me first, the rules do not apply to me type!!

Being wealthy is a state of mind and station as measured by the individual.
And it is not just measured by a financial statement. That is unfortunately the narrow measure that many use.....and it is confusing.

Where does wealthy start?
It is most certainly not measured off like a football field.

I find the term wealthy being abused about as often as the word resort.