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Guest 03-29-2016 07:55 AM

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Dear Guest:

Thank you for expressing your point of view. It is difficult to do so in these times of political correctness, trigger warnings, micro agressions and a clamoring for safe spaces.

Its difficult to do so also because leaders in every endeavor work to build their collectives which they can control easily. They fear individual thought because individuals speak out against tyranny of any kind. These same collectives push for increase federal control whereas individuals lean toward power being returned to the states as our founders intended.

I infer from your comments that you were a Vietnam vet. It sickened me to see these same collectives inappropriate response to fighting men and women during that era and now. I served but never went overseas. My cousin, a patriot, served 4 years in the Air Force and then opted for two tours of duty fighting in Nam and died at a young age because of injuries suffered back then.

I fear for this nation's existence because the enemies within have taken control of our learning institutions and government and by indoctrination building their collectives so that individual thought is about distinguished, ergo the responses they you received following your comments.

You are correct about Hillary and that she will be granted cover unless and until Obama clears his connection to her acts of omission and commission. Obama has used many federal agencies to do his bidding IRS, FCC NLRB, EPA DOJ, etc. But collectives drink the kool aid worse yet are just so disengaged that they remain unaware of all this political intrigue.
Thank you again .

Personal Best Regard:

Can you give us an example of how you personally have been micro-aggressed?

Guest 03-29-2016 10:33 AM

Microaggressions are the everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, which communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized group membership.

That was a new word for me.

Aren't Senior Citizens a marginalized group membership? Have you ever been insulted just because you are old?

Guest 03-29-2016 11:07 AM

I have to admit that I have never been insulted in relation to my age. And I have worked with many young people. They have always shown me respect, even when kidding me about my age. And I have traveled all over the world and met a lot of people in my lifetime. I am sure that it happens all the time, but I guess I have been blessed. Or, maybe I have not warranted that kind of disrespect as to be insulted over my age. Of course, I am a young 66 so I have a ways to go before I am really considered old..8^)

Guest 03-29-2016 11:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1205816)
I have to admit that I have never been insulted in relation to my age. And I have worked with many young people. They have always shown me respect, even when kidding me about my age. And I have traveled all over the world and met a lot of people in my lifetime. I am sure that it happens all the time, but I guess I have been blessed. Or, maybe I have not warranted that kind of disrespect as to be insulted over my age. Of course, I am a young 66 so I have a ways to go before I am really considered old..8^)

I have also been treated with respect. Compared to most people my age I am wealthy. Do you think that makes a difference?

Guest 03-29-2016 12:43 PM

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I have also been treated with respect. Compared to most people my age I am wealthy. Do you think that makes a difference?

NO it does not.

There are far too many with or with out being wealthy that are just what they are....nasty, ill tempered, impatient, get outta my way, me first, the rules do not apply to me type!!

Being wealthy is a state of mind and station as measured by the individual.
And it is not just measured by a financial statement. That is unfortunately the narrow measure that many use.....and it is confusing.

Where does wealthy start?
It is most certainly not measured off like a football field.

I find the term wealthy being abused about as often as the word resort.

Guest 03-29-2016 01:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1205819)
I have also been treated with respect. Compared to most people my age I am wealthy. Do you think that makes a difference?

I don't know if it has anything to do with wealth. I am not wealthy by financial standards, although I am blessed and wealthy in regards to being able to afford to retire comfortably, so far. And I guess I am blessed and wealthy when it comes to my health. I don't that your financial standing makes a difference when it comes to respect. I may be wrong, but I haven't noticed a difference. Of course, the local pet troll on here, has been disrespectful to others on here, using their age in some of his insults, but I doubt he would have the courage or then inclination to be like that in public. In many cases, manners are a face to face thing.

Guest 03-29-2016 02:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1205899)
I don't know if it has anything to do with wealth. I am not wealthy by financial standards, although I am blessed and wealthy in regards to being able to afford to retire comfortably, so far. And I guess I am blessed and wealthy when it comes to my health. I don't that your financial standing makes a difference when it comes to respect. I may be wrong, but I haven't noticed a difference. Of course, the local pet troll on here, has been disrespectful to others on here, using their age in some of his insults, but I doubt he would have the courage or then inclination to be like that in public. In many cases, manners are a face to face thing.

What financial standards do you mean? There is no age discrimination? It's a myth?

Guest 03-29-2016 02:52 PM

I know folks that are retired, no debts including paid for home in TV, and live on SS and a very modest IRA. They always speak how fortunate they are to have everything they ever wanted and now the time and money to do what they want.

Wealth....a very subjective state of being.

Guest 03-29-2016 03:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1205943)
I know folks that are retired, no debts including paid for home in TV, and live on SS and a very modest IRA. They always speak how fortunate they are to have everything they ever wanted and now the time and money to do what they want.

Wealth....a very subjective state of being.

It's also quantitative. One tenth of one percent own as mush as the bottom ninety present. That's the group you, me and your friend is in. They are fortunate because most Americans cannot write a check of $1,000. All of us worked hard.

I worked 2 jobs and my wife worked one and we raised 3 kids. We could sock it away. That's not the way it is today. We lived after FDR put in place social security
minimum wage
unemployment insurance
abolishing child labor 8,10, 12 yr olds were working in the fields and factories
the forty hour work week
collective bargaining for unions
strong banking regulations
deposit insurance in banks [don't hide youre money in you matress]
job programs

College was dirt cheap. I want my grandchildren to have the same chance I had, we all had. Does that make me selfish?

Guest 03-29-2016 04:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1205957)
It's also quantitative. One tenth of one percent own as mush as the bottom ninety present. That's the group you, me and your friend is in. They are fortunate because most Americans cannot write a check of $1,000. All of us worked hard.

I worked 2 jobs and my wife worked one and we raised 3 kids. We could sock it away. That's not the way it is today. We lived after FDR put in place social security
minimum wage
unemployment insurance
abolishing child labor 8,10, 12 yr olds were working in the fields and factories
the forty hour work week
collective bargaining for unions
strong banking regulations
deposit insurance in banks [don't hide youre money in you matress]
job programs

College was dirt cheap. I want my grandchildren to have the same chance I had, we all had. Does that make me selfish?

It does if that means that they don't have to work for it, rather the socialist want to steal it from someone else to give to them. Everyone has the same right to work and the same right to gain wealth. I could still be making a six figure income, if I wished. But, I don't want to work for it. Not now. I enjoy my retirement.

Guest 03-29-2016 07:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1205970)
It does if that means that they don't have to work for it, rather the socialist want to steal it from someone else to give to them. Everyone has the same right to work and the same right to gain wealth. I could still be making a six figure income, if I wished. But, I don't want to work for it. Not now. I enjoy my retirement.

I didn't get a hand out. I got a hand up. In those days the top 22%, not the 1/10 of 1 per cent owned 90% of the wealth. If I had borrowed money for all 4 years of college, I could have paid it off in the first year I worked. Can your grandchildren say that?

We, the middle class did not look out for our children. We let this happen.

Guest 03-30-2016 04:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1206035)
I didn't get a hand out. I got a hand up. In those days the top 22%, not the 1/10 of 1 per cent owned 90% of the wealth. If I had borrowed money for all 4 years of college, I could have paid it off in the first year I worked. Can your grandchildren say that?

We, the middle class did not look out for our children. We let this happen.

The children have just as much opportunity to succeed as we did. There is nothing stopping them except more regulations, permits and licenses requirements. The problem with today's children is that they have been given everything, and now they expect it and think that it is owed to them. The children of today have much more and did less to get it than we did. What percentage of them take part-time jobs after school compared to us? How many will work their way through college, like us? But, I refuse to take credit for their debt that we DID leave for them. I didn't spend that money frivolously and I did not get gov hand outs to get where I am today. They are the ones that are borrowing in order to live above their means also. I didn't have more than one TV in my house until 2008. I didn't have to have a new car when I could only afford a used one. I didn't take vacations when I didn't have the extra money to do so. If I took off, it was to work around the house.

These kids don't have it hard. They make it hard by not using their heads and preparing for their retirement. If they don't have Social Security, it is because no one will let congress modify it and cry if they make the slightest change to the age to qualify for it.

The reason there are plenty of wealthy and fewer middle class is not because of the wealthy. It's because there are fewer middle class jobs because the government is getting more and more greedy, expecting the top earners to pay for their frivolous spending. Allowing someone to be on unemployment for two years is stupid. Penalizing small business with Obamacare requirements is stupid. The gov is responsible for the stagnation of our economy, not the wealthy.

Guest 04-25-2016 11:57 PM

Wow!
 
Has this topic gone far afield! I come back to the original point: to listen to what the candidates have to say about each other. It ain't over till it's over, and by that time everyone will cover for everyone else along party lines.

This is not meant to support one party over the other but rather to just remember what the candidates say about each other up to this point in the campaign. We all know that this will change dramatically after the conventions. So yes, now is the time to listen--and remember....

Guest 04-26-2016 06:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1206100)

The gov is responsible for the stagnation of our economy, not the wealthy.

The wealthy "make" the government by deciding who gets elected. It's the wealthy and corporations who ultimately decide what happens.

All those laws and regulations are put in place to limit competition.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217559)
Has this topic gone far afield! I come back to the original point: to listen to what the candidates have to say about each other. It ain't over till it's over, and by that time everyone will cover for everyone else along party lines.

This is not meant to support one party over the other but rather to just remember what the candidates say about each other up to this point in the campaign. We all know that this will change dramatically after the conventions. So yes, now is the time to listen--and remember....

They'll all lie and tell us what they think we want to hear. Then they'll do as they're told after election.

Guest 05-02-2016 09:50 PM

Back to the original premise of this thread
 
Remember carefully what the candidates said about each other in the past, and today more than ever--and in the next couple of months too--listen to the flip-flops and changes.


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