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Guest 06-01-2009 05:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206660)
Laker, what do you think McPain was, if not a moderate. I'm tired of voting for RINO's.

I agree he was a moderate. I'm not arguing against that idea.

I'm arguing against the statement that somehow the GOP lost the election because he was too moderate.

It doesn't make sense to me that someone who wanted a more conservative GOP candidate, and who would have voted for a more conservative GOP candidate, vented his/her frustration by voting for an ultra-liberal like Obama.

Guest 06-01-2009 05:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206654)
I would rather concentrate on the NOW and the issues facing us today. George Bush is gone and Hussein Obama is in.
Keedy

Rather than insult the President with your oh so (not very) clever nick-names, we could concentrate on the NOW, and the issues facing us today, by taking a realistic view of what just happened, and where we went wrong.

I'm trying to understand your statements that somehow the nation wanted a more conservative President, and yet voted for a more liberal choice than your "too liberal" McCain.

But instead you choose to insult, and change the subject rather than answer a simple question.

Guest 06-01-2009 06:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206666)
Rather than insult the President with your oh so (not very) clever nick-names, we could concentrate on the NOW, and the issues facing us today, by taking a realistic view of what just happened, and where we went wrong.

I'm trying to understand your statements that somehow the nation wanted a more conservative President, and yet voted for a more liberal choice than your "too liberal" McCain.

But instead you choose to insult, and change the subject rather than answer a simple question.

Hussein Obama is the name he used for swearing in for the presidency. Seems he uses it at his own convenience. (do you always wake-up nasty?)
AS far as changing the subject...seems to me hijacking is your forte.

Guest 06-01-2009 07:28 AM

It might be a good idea to save using Hussein too often until the next election. If people get too familiar with it, it won't be effective in scaring away uniformed voters.

Guest 06-01-2009 07:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206676)
Hussein Obama is the name he used for swearing in for the presidency. Seems he uses it at his own convenience. (do you always wake-up nasty?)
AS far as changing the subject...seems to me hijacking is your forte.

Actually, you are the one who hijacked this thread with your RL cut-and-paste talking points.
I started it as a discussion of Sonia Sotomayor's qualificatons as a Supreme Court nominee.:beer3:

Guest 06-01-2009 08:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206684)
Actually, you are the one who hijacked this thread with your RL cut-and-paste talking points.
I started it as a discussion of Sonia Sotomayor's qualificatons as a Supreme Court nominee.:beer3:

Yes, I re-read and my post #30 was a little off-topic but your own post #61 suggesting that we start another thread kind of changed the tone a little, you think? As for my "talking points"...are we not in a political forum? We can analyze this until the cows come home. Her qualifications aside, does anybody here really believe that we can appoint somebody to the Supreme Court and not ask the questions on which way she leans.
In a perfect world, it would be nice to have justices that just interpreted the law but, it is not going to happen. After all..were only human....
Keedy

Guest 06-01-2009 09:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206697)
Yes, I re-read and my post #30 was a little off-topic but your own post #61 suggesting that we start another thread kind of changed the tone a little, you think?

Post 61 was from VK.:read:

Guest 06-01-2009 09:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 206706)
Post 61 was from VK.:read:

Sorry...As the original poster, kinda late for policing thread? :beer3:

Guest 06-06-2009 07:03 AM

In doing a bit of research I came across an organization called National Council of La Raza, an group of which the Supreme Court Nominee is an active member as I read.

Thus far all I can find is opinions from those I may consider too far left or too far right.

It appears the group has been controversial to some degree, and I am wondering if anybody here has any knowledge to share on the group !

Thanks

Guest 06-06-2009 06:50 PM

Admittely the link here is a right wing group but from what I can find...


...there is no doubt that the nominee was a member of this group until 2004

"This will certainly fuel some questions during the confirmation process. The NCLR has a number of critics for their open-borders and identity-politics positions, which would make Sotomayor’s “wise Latina woman better than a white male” comment seem right at home. In fact, they took so much heat during the immigration debate that they eventually added an entire section of their site disassociating themselves with concepts like reconquista, Aztlán, and other separatist notions. (Many of those criticisms apply more correctly to MeChA; La Raza did repudiate La Voz de Aztlán for its racism and bigotry.)"

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/0...for-six-years/

She will get the appointment but it may be good to see what we are getting and this group seems to be on the opposite side of immigration from me anyway, as they seem to want lots of things for illegal immigrants !

Guest 06-06-2009 07:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 207731)
In doing a bit of research I came across an organization called National Council of La Raza, an group of which the Supreme Court Nominee is an active member as I read.
Thus far all I can find is opinions from those I may consider too far left or too far right.
It appears the group has been controversial to some degree, and I am wondering if anybody here has any knowledge to share on the group !
Thanks

"The National Council of La Raza, which bills itself as the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the U.S., welcomed the nomination of [Alberto] Gonzales to succeed John Ashcroft.

"We are very encouraged by the Gonzales nomination," said the glowing endorsement by La Raza. "We previously criticized the Bush administration for not having an Hispanic in the cabinet since the departure of former HUD Secretary, now Senator-elect, Mel Martinez. We are pleased that one of the first acts since the president"s re-election both rectifies that situation and marks an historic milestone for the Latino community."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=41628

Guest 06-06-2009 07:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 207864)
"The National Council of La Raza, which bills itself as the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the U.S., welcomed the nomination of [Alberto] Gonzales to succeed John Ashcroft.

"We are very encouraged by the Gonzales nomination," said the glowing endorsement by La Raza. "We previously criticized the Bush administration for not having an Hispanic in the cabinet since the departure of former HUD Secretary, now Senator-elect, Mel Martinez. We are pleased that one of the first acts since the president"s re-election both rectifies that situation and marks an historic milestone for the Latino community."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=41628

Not sure what your point is with this post on Gonzalez....this was not meant to be a "can you top this" kind of conversation nor was it meant to be a left versus right, but then again, this is what you do.....you seem to have to MUST have that party divide.

My point was to find out more about this organiation and if anyone knew anymore about them. As I said, she will be confirmed but we should know what we are in for especially in regards to immigration, and as I said also I didnt want to post far left or far right propaganda.

I think basic research on the group tells you that they will support latino nominees no matter the party...that is what they do and were founded to do..support latinos.

Geez...someday try the middle...it is nice here....that party stuff gets old !

Guest 06-06-2009 09:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 207866)
Not sure what your point is with this post on Gonzalez....this was not meant to be a "can you top this" kind of conversation nor was it meant to be a left versus right, but then again, this is what you do.....you seem to have to MUST have that party divide.
My point was to find out more about this organiation and if anyone knew anymore about them. As I said, she will be confirmed but we should know what we are in for especially in regards to immigration, and as I said also I didnt want to post far left or far right propaganda.
I think basic research on the group tells you that they will support latino nominees no matter the party...that is what they do and were founded to do..support latinos.
Geez...someday try the middle...it is nice here....that party stuff gets old !

The point is that LaRaza has supported members of BOTH parties, which kind of makes them in the middle.
By the way, snide insinuations do not place you in the middle.

Guest 06-06-2009 11:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 207866)
Not sure what your point is with this post on Gonzalez....this was not meant to be a "can you top this" kind of conversation nor was it meant to be a left versus right, but then again, this is what you do.....you seem to have to MUST have that party divide.

My point was to find out more about this organiation and if anyone knew anymore about them. As I said, she will be confirmed but we should know what we are in for especially in regards to immigration, and as I said also I didnt want to post far left or far right propaganda.

I think basic research on the group tells you that they will support latino nominees no matter the party...that is what they do and were founded to do..support latinos.

Geez...someday try the middle...it is nice here....that party stuff gets old !

:agree: There are some people here who give their opinions and there are just a few who only try to keep a running score.

Guest 06-07-2009 07:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 207879)
The point is that LaRaza has supported members of BOTH parties, which kind of makes them in the middle.
By the way, snide insinuations do not place you in the middle.


Sorry if you felt I was being snide. I KNOW they will support any latino for any office which means I KNOW they will support both parties.

My question was about the organization...I said nothing negative about anybody or anyone....I wanted to know about the organization, NOT ITS POLITICS which after visiting their website became obvious. I even said I did not want to quote or go to any hard right or hard left site.

The post, in my opinion, said NOTHING negative about the candidate, nor was that the intent.


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