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Posted by Guest (Post 441467)

Gee, with a statement from certain posters on this forum of "This great country is rotting from the inside out BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT ENCOURAGE people to over breed and be lazy." - maybe the conservative answer would be mandatory sterilizations of people on welfare. Weren't eugenics also one of the ideas of a certain leader in WWII?

I figure at the tax rate I am in right now, I am supporting approximately 3 welfare recipients and their 10 children. I no longer wish to do that. Does that make me wrong?

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Posted by Guest (Post 441467)

Gee, with a statement from certain posters on this forum of "This great country is rotting from the inside out BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT ENCOURAGE people to over breed and be lazy." - maybe the conservative answer would be mandatory sterilizations of people on welfare. Weren't eugenics also one of the ideas of a certain leader in WWII?

And apparently eugenics was the idea in the majority opinion in Roe v. Wade, according to Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg:

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Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/ma...pagewanted=all

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Posted by Guest (Post 441467)

Repubs supporting Santorum might have problems with that. At least he would since he seems he supports "rabbits" :cus:

If ilovetv would have posted the full exchange with Ruth Ginsburg, it would have looked a little different than taking a little snippet out of context:
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JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae � in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don�t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn�t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

Q: When you say that reproductive rights need to be straightened out, what do you mean?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.
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Excellent Ginsburg Quote

Q: When you say that reproductive rights need to be straightened out, what do you mean?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.

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Q: When you say that reproductive rights need to be straightened out, what do you mean?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.

The government has no business in the matter of the killing of innocents and concerning the people who commit these atrocities? Always has been warped inhuman thinking and still is.

I'll never know how a liberal can ever "speak to God" with a straight face.

Reproductive rights?; what a travesty. Millions of babies agree.