The question was legitimate, answer was freakin hilarious. Again, words mean things though, and accusing one of being a puppet with an entity behind them being a puppeteer should be able to be backed up with a legitimate answer. Inflamatory and baseless accusations are the lowest form of what this process has degenerated to...fear induced casting of aspersions.

Honestly Serenity I don't know...that is why it is so scary to me...if you read carefully I said he appears to be a puppet. I did not say he was one. I can't prove that and neither can anyone else one way or the other. We all know what they want us to know and that is all..period.

I have seen no substance to him. I have only seen him parrot his prewritten opinions and or agree with his opponent or avoid the question when he doesn't. I think he is an excellent orator. I would vote for him if I could believe he is his own man. I can't.

Also please know. This forum is not my thing. I don't have thick enough skin to play in here. I saw this post and curious, I read it and agreed.

I personally don't care one iota if any of you agree with me at all. I don't mean that in a mean way, I just really don't care. So I am not trying to influence you in any way by casting aspersions on Obama, and I won't defend my opinion any further.

I think he is really scary.

I guess my point would be there is no more substance in the post associating him with being a puppet than there is in the statement "I have seen no substance to him. I have only seen him parrot his prewritten opinions and or agree with his opponent or avoid the question when he doesn't. I think he is an excellent orator. I would vote for him if I could believe he is his own man. I can't.". There are plenty of opinions out there, I just can't for the life of me see how all of the name calling and aspersions are productive. We are all certainly entitled to an opinion I just have a hard time seeing it degenerate into essentially name calling and accusations(not refering specificaly to the above post BTW) based on propaganda and spin.
If someone appears to be controlled by a puppeteer the logical question would be who does the puppet master appear to be. It simply behooves us to try to look beyond fear and emotion to substance and facts.

I honestly and in a non-malignant way also could care less if you agree with me...it holds no importance. And intelligent exchange of ideas based in fact does.

You are totally rude...The first time you used this name I thought perhaps it could have been a typo...but now you did it again.

No one on this post deserves this kind of ridicule.

Just Ignore.
 

Cologal, you have to learn to ignore Osh. Most others have. :laugh:

Actually Colo....I can't imagine she means that intentionally....do you know how many times I have done to type in your "name" and messed it up....and others for that matter....remember I didn't even know what it stood for....



Thankfully I understand it now...Colorado Girl...and it is just easier to write Colo.....stop after the 2nd O Osh....it would make it easier....

COLO....Osh is a good person....and has valid points and well written opinions....she just happens to disagree with us.

sometimes I wish I was on her side....there are some people I agree with totally and would rather not because of the way it is written....

I actually think that you both (Osh and Colo) would get along just fine....in the real world....agree to disagree on politics....but other than that....would get a long....you are both clear minded and well thought out with your opinions!!!

Watching 60 minutes............The overall reason for where we are? Deregulation. Culprits.......Phil Gram & Alan Greenspan both Republicans. Phil Gram would have a lot of power under a McCain administration......More bad judgment! Current Socialization of financial system is the fault of the Republicans. The Republicans do want to do away with Social Security & Medicare. They do say they would be open to privatizing Social Security and Medicare with Haliburton being the automatic winner of the no bid contract. If Social Security and Medicare are eliminated that will be the end of the Villages! We cannot stay the course! Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results is called insanity!

Darn it.

I intended to watch "60 Minutes" and totally forgot. I knew this was going to be their topic tonight. I need to find out if they run the show online. I hope so.

I have been hacked off at Greenspan for years.

Sometimes you just do not need a bloomin' genius like Greenspan. Sometimes you just need somebody with some common sense. Greenspan looked to me like he was operating outside the realm of reality for quite awhile. I don't recall ever hearing him call the real estate market "irrational exuberance."

How could Greenspan not know??????

I did not want to be right.

Boomer

Wouldn't it be great if cologal had been around when Joe McCarthy was chairing his committee? They deserve each other.

Tell me what in the world did I do to you? It really isn't nice to make nasty at another Irishmen. My grandmother watched those hearings and told me all about it.