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MDLNB 01-24-2017 07:59 AM

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The source of the so called "intellect" in his posts is from liberal media. He has no idea what he would see in Trumps tax return, but some liberal journalist said they need to see it, PERIOD. His posts (CIA crowd, WH comment, etc) all infer he could get lost trying to find his way out of a Walmart parking lot...

Good point.

Cedwards38 01-24-2017 08:06 AM

Carnival barkers like Trump don't have to tell the truth. They will use their "alternative facts" to try to fool the masses. And as P. T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

I, however, prefer the quote from Abraham Lincoln who stated, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

I promise to support Donald Trump as President just as much as Republicans supported President Obama over the past eight years.

Don Baldwin 01-24-2017 08:15 AM

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Carnival barkers like Trump don't have to tell the truth. They will use their "alternative facts" to try to fool the masses. And as P. T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

I, however, prefer the quote from Abraham Lincoln who stated, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

I promise to support Donald Trump as President just as much as Republicans supported President Obama over the past eight years.

Au contraire...If you tell the lie exclusively, and you begin at birth...you'd be surprised what people will believe. Gender and racial equality...religion...all kinds of things.

MDLNB 01-24-2017 08:20 AM

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Carnival barkers like Trump don't have to tell the truth. They will use their "alternative facts" to try to fool the masses. And as P. T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

I, however, prefer the quote from Abraham Lincoln who stated, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

I promise to support Donald Trump as President just as much as Republicans supported President Obama over the past eight years.

Well, apparently Obie fooled you ALL of the time. I doubt Trump needs your support. He has enough support to get him elected. After this four years, he will have a lot more converts that will support him. But, you go ahead and support the felon, Hillary. Keep believing her lies that she is sorry and that she didn't do anything wrong. Other than the felonies and pathological lying, she might be close.

MDLNB 01-24-2017 08:46 AM

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Carnival barkers like Trump don't have to tell the truth. They will use their "alternative facts" to try to fool the masses. And as P. T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

I, however, prefer the quote from Abraham Lincoln who stated, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

I promise to support Donald Trump as President just as much as Republicans supported President Obama over the past eight years.

There is a major difference in your precept as compared to ours. We were adamantly against Obama's radical agenda and his attempt to decide for everyone else, considering no one else. We were not against Obama, just his radical policies and radical world view. On the other hand, the left is not against Trump's policies, but against Trump personally and his family personally. When we argued Obama's policies, you labeled us racists. Most of us were not. Now, you attempt to equivocate your slurs against the man and his family as the same as the last eight years of us disagreeing with Obama's socialist policies. We will not call you racists, ok?

The left made Obama a racial issue, and instigated slurs against the man by accusations of racism when we did not agree with his policies. This is why there will not be another black man in that office for a long time. There was no room for disagreement.

But, to suggest that you are going to give Trump the same respect that Obama got is ludicrous. I have yet to hear any debate on Trump's policies, only on what you conceived he said a dozen years ago.

Don Baldwin 01-24-2017 09:01 AM

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So, it is ok that the person who holds the highest office in the land can hide his business dealings with Russia, and other countries to deflect any financial association (conflict of interest is only one example) with other countries.....
Your reply shows not only your lack of intelligence, but how you are able to be spoon-fed by the "alternative facts" that the Trump administration feeds you.:a20:

You know...speaking of "intelligence"...a president with personal business holdings in many different countries is probably not going to be in a big hurry to see those assets jeopardized by that country's going to war. The more you openly "cooperate in business" with others...the less likely you are to go to war with them.

MDLNB 01-24-2017 09:05 AM

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You know...speaking of "intelligence"...a president with personal business holdings in many different countries is probably not going to be in a big hurry to see those assets jeopardized by that country's going to war. The more you openly "cooperate in business" with others...the less likely you are to go to war with them.


I guess you could also use that analogy regarding a president raised as a Muslim, "less likely you are to go to war with them." Now, do you realize how ridiculous your supposition is?

Don Baldwin 01-24-2017 09:41 AM

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I guess you could also use that analogy regarding a president raised as a Muslim, "less likely you are to go to war with them." Now, do you realize how ridiculous your supposition is?

What does fantasy religion have to do with business?

Are we in Syria with business contracts in our hands or rifles? Did we go to Saddam with business propositions or stealth bombers? Are we trying to do business with Iran and N Korea or are we threatening them?

Religious people FIGHT each other. WHY would you bring up antagonistic "foes" as an example? Muslims fight each other...big business men don't if they don't have to.

People would rather live in peace with a variety of products from all over the world. That is what cooperative business dealing gets you. So why is it wrong for the president to have a PERSONAL stake in "world peace"?

MDLNB 01-24-2017 09:54 AM

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What does fantasy religion have to do with business?

Are we in Syria with business contracts in our hands or rifles? Did we go to Saddam with business propositions or stealth bombers? Are we trying to do business with Iran and N Korea or are we threatening them?

Religious people FIGHT each other. WHY would you bring up antagonistic "foes" as an example? Muslims fight each other...big business men don't if they don't have to.

People would rather live in peace with a variety of products from all over the world. That is what cooperative business dealing gets you. So why is it wrong for the president to have a PERSONAL stake in "world peace"?

Yep, you are correct and I had misread your comment. I agree.

SALYBOW 01-24-2017 10:13 AM

I would be interested in that as well. All the to do about Obama has not been so apparent to me. I do know that many people are upset about Obamacare for some reason but it may not be the definitive answer, but we do need an answer, As far as the price going up, the price of my insurance is going up as well and Obama had nothing to do with it It is very important that we think both men's policies over and not paint them with broad strokes. The appointment of so many white supremacists to the cabinet needs to be considered as to cause, effect and whether it was a good decision. I am not firmly in either man's camp and would like to hear true , well thought out facts to help me decide.

SALYBOW 01-24-2017 10:19 AM

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You know...speaking of "intelligence"...a president with personal business holdings in many different countries is probably not going to be in a big hurry to see those assets jeopardized by that country's going to war. The more you openly "cooperate in business" with others...the less likely you are to go to war with them.
Donald Trump's assertion that he "loved war" scared me to death. Maybe being in so many business entanglements would stop him from going to war, but I worry what we are going to have to give away to stay out of war. Sometimes the threat of war keeps both sides on the best path.

Don Baldwin 01-24-2017 11:30 AM

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Yep, you are correct and I had misread your comment. I agree.

Thanks MD

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I would be interested in that as well. All the to do about Obama has not been so apparent to me. I do know that many people are upset about Obamacare for some reason but it may not be the definitive answer, but we do need an answer, As far as the price going up, the price of my insurance is going up as well and Obama had nothing to do with it It is very important that we think both men's policies over and not paint them with broad strokes. The appointment of so many white supremacists to the cabinet needs to be considered as to cause, effect and whether it was a good decision. I am not firmly in either man's camp and would like to hear true , well thought out facts to help me decide.

You CAN'T "magically" insure 50 million people. If each one ONLY uses $1,000 worth of services...that's $50,000,000,000 ($50 billion) spend on them...money that came from you and me...via increases in premiums. SOMEBODY has to pay for it if it's not the "government" (added to the $20 trillion deficit).

Obama had EVERYTHING to do with it. Pelosi had EVERYTHING to do with it. The "medical industry" wants to get paid, Obamacare paid them.

Well...let me give it a try...what HAS "equality and diversity" gotten us? Has ANYTHING actually improved? Has education gotten better since we "mainstreamed" everyone? Have schools that diversified gotten better? Have businesses improved carry 20% dead wood via quotas? Are more off welfare? Are neighborhoods that diversified better? Cities? Has ANYTHING improved since "white men" stopped running EVERYTHING? The nation, our society, peaked in the 50s. Since everything changed in the 60s with "equal rights", we've been on a downhill slide since.

Are there ANY "nice" black run places? Not even ONE? Then WHY IN THE NAME OF GOD would you want them involved in running OUR government? Are there ANY truly successful (not a niche, by blacks for blacks) large BLACK owned/run major corporations/international conglomerates? Are blacks consistently ranked as the best and brightest? Then Then WHY IN THE NAME OF GOD would you want them involved in business?

Negros are NOT us. They will NEVER be our equals. It's how nature made us. A dog will never be a cat either. We are wasting everything we throw into equality.

Men and women are ALSO very different in their abilities.

We NEED to bring back capable white men again IF we really want to make America great again. Quotas of women and minorities isn't working. From #1 to #25 in 50 short years. ALL because of diversity lowered standards, and quotas.

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Originally Posted by Guest
You know...speaking of "intelligence"...a president with personal business holdings in many different countries is probably not going to be in a big hurry to see those assets jeopardized by that country's going to war. The more you openly "cooperate in business" with others...the less likely you are to go to war with them.


Donald Trump's assertion that he "loved war" scared me to death. Maybe being in so many business entanglements would stop him from going to war, but I worry what we are going to have to give away to stay out of war. Sometimes the threat of war keeps both sides on the best path.

If we go to war...it's because the power BEHIND the throne wants it. Watch the Trump holdings...if he suddenly sells in a region...

I was speaking more generally about nations cooperating in business. The more businesses shared among each other, the less chance for war. More major corporations with a presence decreases the chances for war. Having ONLY the president doing business in a country isn't enough. Ever notice we always end up in 3rd world places? Places we DON'T have much business relations with?


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