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autumnspring 01-28-2017 03:10 PM

RE: 50.4 vs 49.2
 
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The theme of the article seemed to indicate that the boom helped the top 90% mostly. The part that you are referring to, seemed to be a very minute figment of the article. But, you are correct there was that little tidbit of confidence.

""Any boom in the stock market is going to pass by the great majority of Americans," Wolff said."
"The Dow's 23 percent surge over the past year has benefited mostly investors who were already well-off."

And I found this little point to be interesting: "The proportion of Americans with retirement accounts actually declined slightly from 2010 to 2013 — from 50.4 percent to 49.2 percent."

I'm not disagreeing with the article. It just seemed to be mostly downplaying the stock market surge. And I may be looking at it wrong. I admit that.

All of these sorts of numbers are termed educated guesses. When, they state numbers as 50.4 to decline 49.2, it makes us BELIEVE there is great accuracy. Usually, the accuracy is within 2% thus is 50.2 is 2% high the real number is 49.19 and if the 49.2 number is 2% too low the real number is 50.18 so percentage in the stock market may have actually gone up.

In my opinion the manipulation of money by our government, particularly under OBAMA has led to the rise of the stock market. Long term history of Treasury bonds was that they pay 2% above the rate of inflation. You cannot trust government reported rate of inflation either.
Ronald Reagan took the price of housing and the cost of fuel out of the inflation numbers. He explained they were to volatile to calculate. IT IS NOT JUST DEMOCRATS THAT LIE TO US. At that time Housing and fuel were the highest areas of inflation-price rise. That is how Reagon reduced inflation. Today, if you don't count medical costs, food and education, there is no inflation same as Reagan spun it. INFLATION IS NOT ZERO-LONG TERM TREASURIES PAY 2%.
The old guide was you subtract your age from 100 and that is the percentage you should have in stocks 70-100=30%.

autumnspring 01-28-2017 03:20 PM

Do you believe anything a politition says????
 
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Most are probably like Joe Biden, who has stated that he has none.

Joe Biden's money would be in a blind trust so he would not know if he owns any stocks or not.

Joe Biden like the rest of them talks soooo much that often he seems stupid. I'm telling a tale about how he lives in the back woods and he after hearing noises went out with his trusty double barreled shotgun. He told us he fired the first shot into the air and the second shot where the noise was coming from. HOW SIMPLY STUPID. First you never shoot at something you can't see. It could have been his neighbor, a kid, a dog a.......... Also, with a double barreled shotgun having, accroding to him, fired a warning shot into the air and one in the direction of the sound-he was now out of ammunition.

autumnspring 01-28-2017 03:35 PM

Do you really believe people tell you the truth re: Money
 
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The CBOE is a crazy place. And money to be made. I don't have enough risk tolerance to venture into that territory. But I know people who are 1 percenters because of it.

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Far too many people lie to themselves about their true rate of return. Lie may not be fair, often they simply do not really know what their real net rate of return is,

Like the people who bet on horses. They will tell you about the horses that won. They will not tell you or their family how far behind they truly are. Oh and on a big win the government takes their cut even before you can redeem your ticket.

Don Baldwin 01-29-2017 07:10 AM

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Joe Biden's money would be in a blind trust so he would not know if he owns any stocks or not.

Joe Biden like the rest of them talks soooo much that often he seems stupid. I'm telling a tale about how he lives in the back woods and he after hearing noises went out with his trusty double barreled shotgun. He told us he fired the first shot into the air and the second shot where the noise was coming from. HOW SIMPLY STUPID. First you never shoot at something you can't see. It could have been his neighbor, a kid, a dog a.......... Also, with a double barreled shotgun having, accroding to him, fired a warning shot into the air and one in the direction of the sound-he was now out of ammunition.

Politicians LIE...it's what they do. You're a fool to believe ONE WORD coming from their corrupt mouths. Those "stories" are just that...stories.

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Far too many people lie to themselves about their true rate of return. Lie may not be fair, often they simply do not really know what their real net rate of return is,

Like the people who bet on horses. They will tell you about the horses that won. They will not tell you or their family how far behind they truly are. Oh and on a big win the government takes their cut even before you can redeem your ticket.

Just like EVERYONE wins when they go to Vegas. Haven't talked to many who admit they lost. They'll brag about their "big win", forgetting to mention they gave it ALL back and more by the time they left.

People are delusional...intentional or not.

dillywho 01-29-2017 04:31 PM

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Politicians LIE...it's what they do. You're a fool to believe ONE WORD coming from their corrupt mouths. Those "stories" are just that...stories.



Just like EVERYONE wins when they go to Vegas. Haven't talked to many who admit they lost. They'll brag about their "big win", forgetting to mention they gave it ALL back and more by the time they left.

People are delusional...intentional or not.

Nope. When I was working, several of us gals would save up over the year and take an annual trip to Vegas. I always went to Vegas with a set amount of money. If I spent it all, no problem. If I was lucky enough to come home with some, great. That was just a start on the next trip. We had no delusions of getting rich. We just wanted to have a good time with whatever we had to spend. Some had more. Some had less. That was ok, too.

To me, Vegas was my Disney World and a lot more fun. With Disney World, it's just spend spend spend. At least in Vegas, you have a chance to return with some of what you went with or some people, more.

Don Baldwin 01-30-2017 08:46 AM

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Nope. When I was working, several of us gals would save up over the year and take an annual trip to Vegas. I always went to Vegas with a set amount of money. If I spent it all, no problem. If I was lucky enough to come home with some, great. That was just a start on the next trip. We had no delusions of getting rich. We just wanted to have a good time with whatever we had to spend. Some had more. Some had less. That was ok, too.

To me, Vegas was my Disney World and a lot more fun. With Disney World, it's just spend spend spend. At least in Vegas, you have a chance to return with some of what you went with or some people, more.

Or...as I guess is the TRUTH...you "gals" hooked up with some guys and had them pay for your bets and drinks...all for the low low price of an hour with your legs spread...which you probably enjoyed too.

Thereby saving significantly ensuring a nice start to saving for next year.

What happens in Vegas...stays in Vegas?

Close?

How do I know? I've done it too...gone to Vegas and hooked up with "gals" like you. A few drinks, some laughs at the craps table...and up to the room for a shower and sex.

Chi-Town 01-30-2017 09:35 AM

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Or...as I guess is the TRUTH...you "gals" hooked up with some guys and had them pay for your bets and drinks...all for the low low price of an hour with your legs spread...which you probably enjoyed too.

Thereby saving significantly ensuring a nice start to saving for next year.

What happens in Vegas...stays in Vegas?

Close?

How do I know? I've done it too...gone to Vegas and hooked up with "gals" like you. A few drinks, some laughs at the craps table...and up to the room for a shower and sex.

I'll bet that shower was a golden moment for you.

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dillywho 01-30-2017 09:56 AM

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Or...as I guess is the TRUTH...you "gals" hooked up with some guys and had them pay for your bets and drinks...all for the low low price of an hour with your legs spread...which you probably enjoyed too.

Thereby saving significantly ensuring a nice start to saving for next year.

What happens in Vegas...stays in Vegas?

Close?

How do I know? I've done it too...gone to Vegas and hooked up with "gals" like you. A few drinks, some laughs at the craps table...and up to the room for a shower and sex.

Not even close. We did not have to save our money to go there to, as you say, "hook up". We could have stayed home for that. Guess you don't know much about Vegas, any more than you know about women. Drinks are free in the casinos, but nice try. Unlike guys like you, women don't have sex on the brain 24/7.:popcorn: Or, as ole Ron White says, "You just can't fix stupid".

AJ32162 01-30-2017 10:33 AM

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Not even close. We did not have to save our money to go there to, as you say, "hook up". We could have stayed home for that. Guess you don't know much about Vegas, any more than you know about women. Drinks are free in the casinos, but nice try. Unlike guys like you, women don't have sex on the brain 24/7.:popcorn: Or, as ole Ron White says, "You just can't fix stupid".

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Don Baldwin 01-30-2017 10:55 AM

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Not even close. We did not have to save our money to go there to, as you say, "hook up". We could have stayed home for that. Guess you don't know much about Vegas, any more than you know about women. Drinks are free in the casinos, but nice try. Unlike guys like you, women don't have sex on the brain 24/7.:popcorn: Or, as ole Ron White says, "You just can't fix stupid".

My bet is...you don't enjoy sex because you're no good at it. PM me a picture...yes, I can afford to be picky, just like Trump...maybe I'll show you what you've been missing...a tongue isn't just for "stimulating" conversation. My sex drive is as strong as ever. How long has it been? Will I have to blow out the dust? Have you EVER had a good lover or have all your encounters been with a guy who just used you to get off? Just a pu$$y to pound? Kinda sounds like it or you WOULD have been "looking for fun" in Vegas.

And please...don't try to fool me with you're "I'm a good girl" BS. I've hooked up with too many "girls on vacation" to count. I knew girls who had contexts to see who got laid first by a hot guy. These were REGULAR "girl next door" girls. Acting just like the boys.

You women...the delusion NEVER ends does it? Do you EVER stop lying?

CHI - Urine is sterile...you want nasty? A little back door action? And I thought you were a proper lady...


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