The Tea Party offers another option

What
 

Exactly is that? What have they demonstrated they are for?

Hope
 

You like Hillary and Liz better. I'd hate to see you go through another 8 years so angry.

Actually RR reduced the top income tax rate from 70 to 28% and indexed the tax code to inflation. In short, he restored the incentive to work.

Obama, by contrast, has reduced the incentive to work (various income transfer programs, food stamps and illegal Immigartion to cite a few examples )

And makes room for Ted Cruz :pray:

God I hope you guys run that wacko. Bachman would make a great vp candidate, don't you think?

In other words
 

He lowered the tax rate for the wealthy and placed more on the middle class. Sounds like redistribution of wealth to me, but that is the tea party way, as long as it benefits the billionaire benefactors! And he would still be a Rino today!

You have never understood basic economics and finally convinced us all you never will ... (Ps this is your cue to call me a racist and various other reliable standbys)

The more I think about Liz Warren as President (plus Chief of the Cherokees) the more I like it

She is so bat sh*t crazy she may end up scaring Putin and the Ayatollahs ... obviously Obama does not

Don't know what this has to do with the OP, but I'll roll with it. Perhaps you can splain to us lesser minds how lowering the rates on the wealthy, and increasing the tax burden on the middle class helps the economy, or more specifically, the middle class to which most of us belong. The top marginal rate in the 50's was more than 90%, a decade in which the middle class enjoyed the greatest prosperity in history, with low unemployment, low inflation, and high productivity. The top marginal rate today is 39.6%, an era in which the middle class is losing prosperity at an alarming rate. Some of you seem to have bought into the Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, et al propaganda that the wealthy will take good care of the economy if they only get to keep more of what they acquire and get rid of those pesky regulations on their businesses. They have bought you with religious scare tactics and out and out lies to promote their agenda, which in no way benefits you or your kids and grandkids (unless you are a Walton or a Ford etc.)

You may want to check the state of affairs in deep red Kansas to see how the low tax experiment is progressing.

As do Communism, Nazism, ISIS, and Satanism.

This
 

The bought and paid for mentality of the greedy old tea partiers. I agree wholeheartedly with you. The "trickle down" economy,didnt work then and no matter how he spins it , it doesn't work now. Without a viable middle class they are doomed in the long run, but of course the other poster doesnt give a rats ass about the long term. More of the let them eat cake mentality. As the French said," Off with their heads!".

The top 20% of income earners pay >70% of the nation's tax bill. Lowering their rate is just plain FAIR!

The top 20% can do whatever they wish with their money, but I'd venture to say they'd use it to: expand their businesses, purchase more equipment, hire more employees, invest it in other companies so they could use the capital to expand, purchase real estate/second homes/vacation homes, SAVE, go on vacation(s), purchase toys (boats, cars, motorcycles, RV's, snow machines)...

The middle class continues to shrink and become wealthier...just a fact. The so-called "wealthy's" share of the total pie has hardly budged in decades. The truth is that a rising tide IS lifting all boats. Hyperbole is one thing, but facts are facts.

You
 

Are living in dreamland. The middle class is definitely shrinking, it's getting poorer. The disparity and wealth gap are terrible. You are in the job creator role, pay your fair taxes. You do not need a further tax break, nor does Bloomburg!

Here you go tiger! It's kind of like pointing out something to a 4 yr-old!

"Bottom Line: In other words, America’s “middle class” did start largely disappearing in the 1970s, but it was because they were moving up to a higher-income category, not down into a lower-income category. And that movement was so significant that between 1967 and 2009, the share of American families earning incomes above $75,000 more than doubled, from 16.3% to 39.1%. On the previous CD post, Ken commented that although “Many prominent people like Paul Krugman claim that the middle class has been in decline since the 1970s, that assertion is incredibly and verifiably wrong.”


Yes, the middle class has been disappearing, but they haven't fallen into the lower class, they've risen into the upper class - AEI | Carpe Diem Blog » AEIdeas

I can hardly wait to see how the counterpoint will twist this around to where it is not recognizeable.

No
 

One has to twist this. It is an outright lie! And incredibly stupid!

It's so nice to see you finally be able to express your inner totalitarian and tendency to use violence ... as you just intimated

You are now the TOTV poster boy for why the founders set up, among other things, restraints on mob rule.

A morbid obsession about anything is not a good thing because it has the effect of distorting truths and producing myths. It would serve such individuals then to first acknowledge what is good about someone or something in order to place them in an objective frame of mind.

I am not a member of the Tea Party but I believe they have made progress in restoring people's belief in our grass roots beginnings. The importance of our constitution the separation of powers, our freedoms, taxation without representation, the positive effect religion has had on all of these freedoms taken root ( i e God giving rights to)

I am very concerned for people who discount such attributes. Compare the goings on in communist or socialist countries and you seen that God is replaced with government. People in this country who lead attacks against religion do so for a reason, because they recognize that a government run country cannot take root or survive if religion lives because as Jesus said "render to cesar what is cesar's and to God what is God's" Governments dominate because they make all decision for people and create a dependency on their "kindness"(ie someone can kill you with kindness).

Our welfare system is a prime example where generation after generation have relied on this dependence. I cannot think of a crueler thing to do to a human being .

So for those that show contempt for the Tea Party you may want to reassess your thinking unless of course you have gotten use to being on the dole.


Personal Best Regards:

I am now done with this thread newer acres need to be plowed

you
 

Are the mob. A card carrying member of the "gang of six"!

I assume this is meanigful (or maybe not) to someone.

Yea, right

No, it's just another quasi-coherent name calling episode from the verbally clueless Mr Spittle

The Gang of 6 or The 6 Pack was on the original political forum and were just bullies.

If you did not agree with their right wing nut ideas, you were ganged up on and beat up. Fortunately, one has moved away, one does not post anymore, and the others are on here.

Makes not difference. They all know the Tea Party has no accomplishments except to further divide the republicans and to try and hide bigotry with flying flags on their golf carts.

And the gang of 6 never posted one thing that came true. All you have to do is read their post from 2012, with all their misleading links and polls to see that this is true. The moderator did them a big favor by shutting down the political forum when he did, so they didn't have to eat crow after the last election.

Can we then assume that you find flying the American Flag offensive or perhaps insulting to certain groups (eg illegal aliens) and thus never fly the flag at all? You may remember it ... it's the one with a bunch of stars and 13 stripes.

Its
 

The flag the cowardly tea party hides behind. I flew mine with my democratic posters. Loved the reaction from the wingnuts. Even had a few shoot the middle finger at me, of course they were running away when they did it! The villages is the friendliest hometown as long as you are a wingnuts with a dog!

You can't possibly be serious. The Tea Party stands for what this nation was founded upon. Your "current" perversion of what you think America "owes" you is simply a reflection of the fat, lazy, and entitled attitude of liberal people.

dne

This
 

Country was not founded on corporate corruption. In fact Jefferson and Adams warned us of corporate power. This country was founded on religious freedom. This country was founded knowing there was a need for fair taxes. This country was founded and further clarified through a civil war, that all men are created equal. None of these are traits of your corporate fed, morally corrupt, selfish, self centered, totally corrupt tea party corporate lackeys!

dne!

Other than needlessly shut downing the government, I'm hard pressed to find a single "constructive" accomplishment of the Tee Party.

Since that was the topic of this thread, I'm hoping someone can enlighten me.

That's easy ... 69 of 99 state chambers are now red, and both the House and Senate are as well.

Those are not all held by Tea Party candidates, plus that is hardly an accomplishment. I was looking for something they actually achieved, as a group. I can seem to find anything using Google. Thought someone else might have better luck than me, tracking down something.

As I recall, not one tea party candidate beat out a regular republican in the senate races in the 2014 election.

The 2016 election will have a much different electorate, one similar to the 2008 and 2012 electorate. And, only ten democratic senate seats are in play as opposed to 23 republican seats.

The senate seats that turned over in 2014 were mostly from deep red states, such as Arkansas, Alaska, North Dakota, states that Hillary Clinton won't need to win.

IMO: there's not one state that Barack Obama won that Hillary Clinton will not win, plus some, which will mean another landslide victory for democrats.

On the other hand, republicans must win Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida to win the election. Not going to happen.

They've raised "awareness", like the disenfranchised and unemployed "occupy" hippies. As a conservative, I have no clue what the occupiers accomplished other than pooping all over public streets and parks, sexually assaulting each other, smoking a lot of dope and sitting and chanting about the unfairness of the universe.

As a liberal, I'm sure you're aware of how important these awareness campaigns are.

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Obama: Gallup tracking


Here's more good news for President Obama that will put you to sleep. The Gallup daily tracking poll shows him at 50% approve and 46% disapprove.

The 50% represents almost exactly how he won the presidency in 2012 with 50.6% of the vote.

The tea party cost the republican party at least a half dozen senate seats in the last few cycles. Without such tea party whacko-birds as Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, Richard Murdock, Joe Buck, republicans could have won all these races and held control of the senate since 2008.