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Guest 09-05-2016 09:59 PM

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thank prey

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Guest 09-05-2016 10:29 PM

Can you show us where you got your info?
Here is some info from Factcheck
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton
Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost of current benefits, and the "Social Security surplus" makes the total deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4 billion in fiscal 2000. So any way you count it, the federal budget was balanced and the deficit was erased, if only for a while.
Like it says if you took SS out ithere still would have been a surplus

Guest 09-06-2016 05:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1283997)
Can you show us where you got your info?
Here is some info from Factcheck
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton
Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost of current benefits, and the "Social Security surplus" makes the total deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4 billion in fiscal 2000. So any way you count it, the federal budget was balanced and the deficit was erased, if only for a while.
Like it says if you took SS out ithere still would have been a surplus

Huh? Clinton ADDED to the deficit EVERY year. There hasn't been a year the total government debt DECREASED in a long long time.

Don't believe the propaganda.

He stole from SS and he STILL had a deficit. Not a big one (because he stole from SS) but it was still a deficit.

Guest 09-06-2016 05:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1283984)
Clinton cheated...he robbed the SS "trust fund" of over a $trillion through creative accounting tricks. You can add that to his debt because it'll need to be paid back too.

Let's see the documentation on that. Just like trump, throw it against the wall and see if it will stick.

Guest 09-06-2016 06:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1284013)
Let's see the documentation on that. Just like trump, throw it against the wall and see if it will stick.

clinton took money from social security - Google Search

Guest 09-06-2016 06:36 AM

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I have to ask are you talking about Conservatives like Ron Reagan?
Because you said the conservatives believe in a balanced budget, and IF Reagan was the type of Conservative you are talking about you should know that it took 31 years after WWII to run the national debt up to 998 Billion dollars and Reagan ran it up that much in 5 years.
Balanced budgets?
He cut taxes ran the debt up from 998 Billion to 2.8 Trillion in 8 years. and that is even after he raised taxes 11 times.
He was the first President to have a spending budget of OVER a trillion dollars
Then PAPA Bush took over and he ran the budget up 1.554 Trillion in 4 years to 4.4 Trillion dollars
Clinton came in and being a DEM. you would think the way Republicans talk he would have rune the debt up at least as much as Bush did in 4 years but NO Clinton increased the debt by 1.39 Trillion 158 Billion less then Papa bush did in 4 years.
Just thought I would ask if those are the Conservatives you were talking about

Are you replying to any post in particular, or just blathering to the air?
Did anyone suggest or include Reagan in any of the above posts?

Guest 09-06-2016 06:42 AM

The national debt has not been reduced since Eisenhower, period. Clinton had a budget surplus ONLY because his administration wrote a budget for Bush's first year. Anyone can write a budget and make it look good UNTIL you have to pay the bills. There was no surplus other than on paper. I can promise not to spend money on groceries next year and thus have a surplus. But, if I then decide next year to go out every night to eat, I invalidate that budget. If Clinton EVER had a surplus, do you not think that the national debt would have been paid down, even a little? Sorry, but it has not been paid down since Eisenhower.


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