Your chart is too imprecise to mean anything to anyone trying to decipher it, but it seems to be the same lie told by Harry Reid. The beginning of the debt increase starts in Bush's term but the vast bulk of the current unbelievable debt increase is all Obama's. Knowingly or not, you're just spreading the lies of this administration. Don't know why.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/0...nherited-meme/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...uring-george-/

In your defense of Obama, it almost sounds like your suggesting he has no responsibility or accountability for what happens during his watch and under his stewardship. What happens matters and leaders are ultimately responsible and accountable for the state of the union during their tenure. Responsibility and accountability cannot be passed beyond a certain point. Remember where the buck stops?

What's So Confusing?
 

Richie, it's a simple line chart with information from 1940 thru 2007 sourced from President Bush's whitehouse.gov. It's not a complicated chart. It plots total national debt as a percentage of GDP. That's the same ratio that was an important factor in S&P's decision to downgrade our sovereign debt. What's "imprecise" about that?

And "spreading the lies of this administration"? What in the world does that mean?

Remember what the theme of this thread is, as posted by villagegolfer. It's short. It said "Thanks Obama for running up the debt and lowering our credit rating."

I'm not defending Obama or this administration, but I am responding that the allegation which is the basis of this thread is not only inaccurate, but simply preposterous!

Beg your pardon.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politi...n-bashing-bush

Tell me how Bill Clinton got ahold of the purse strings. Wasn't it a Republican House that voted to reduce spending?? Remember the Contract with America?

Just more spin from within.:D

Please Read What I've Said!
 

Geez, how many times do I have to say it? I'm not defending Barack Obama...period! I'm not going to vote for his re-election...period.

Of course he is accountable. But did everything that is now the basis for our fiscal and economic crisis happen during his 30-month presidency? Of course it didn't. Is everything that lead to the debt downgrade things that he personally concocted or did? I think not. Does he have the broad responsibility for what's happened on "his watch". Yes, certainly he does.

But for crying out load, unless we all take the time to see and understand what really caused this problem, we'll have no chance whatsoever to elect people to represent us who will have the experience, ability and leadership qualities to begin to get us out of this mess. If everyone were to follow the simple solution offered so frequently on this forum...vote Republican or vote Tea Party...we'll very likely wind up with the same kind of dysfunctional government that we have now.

Unfortunately, complicated explanations do not hold water with voters of today. Did you not observe how a Community Organizer won an election for the Presidency? What did they vote for? Hope and Change jingle? Executive experience? Color of skin? Racists guilt?
Please tell us what they voted for or was it a little of everything above?

People told me if I voted for McCain, it would be disastrous for the USA. Huh?

Think that "mavericky" thing would have worked out good for us huh? :(

That's What Elections Are For
 

It's been awhile, but I think I can remember why I voted for Obama. Actually, it was more a vote against McCain-Palin than it was a vote for Obama.

Initially, John McCain was going to get my vote. He was a cancer-survivor, which was a bit of a concern given the economic and foreign relations problems we were facing, but when he chose a VP running mate who seemed to me to be woefully unprepared to be POTUS if she had to, I began to consider Obama. Then at one point, McCain responded in an interview that he really didn't know much about economics and would have to appoint other people who did, I began to really have doubts. His hawkishness with regard to continuing the wars and his seemingly sole focus on supporting anything the Pentagon wanted also began to be an issue with me. He was beginning to look sadly one-dimensional as the potential leader of the free world. Then when he so clearly permitted his political handlers make his campaign a totally negative affair, Joe the Plumber, etc., he pretty much lost my vote.

Did I think Barack Obama was a terrific alternative? No.He was too inexperienced and too liberal for me, but he was very smart, understood the Constitution, young, healthy and he had backed himself with one of the more experienced and respected Senators in Washington as his VP running-mate. If I had one major concern, particularly as the depth of the financial crisis became more apparent as we got close to the election, it was whether Obama would be smart enough to deal with the crisis and then be fiscally conservative enough to begin to reverse the trend of increased spending and debt we had seen since 2000.

My decision to give him my vote was conditioned with the thought that if he didn't work out in four years, I'd vote to have him replaced. That's pretty much what has happened, and that's what I'll do.

So did I vote for him based on any of the factors you cited above? No, I didn't. Like I will be in the 2012 elections, I think I was thoughtful and unemotional in choosing who would get my vote. Others may disagree, but that's what elections are for, I think.

Gee, that worked out swell.

Well,I give you credit for giving thought before you voted. Unfortunately, for every thoughtful vote, there was probably 10 unthoughtful votes. Do you think that 97% of the blacks that voted for Obama gave it second thought? My sister-in-law, who I always thought as reasonable, said she voted for Obama because she liked the way he talked. Can you believe it? When I asked her for any qualifications he might have, I got a blank stare.
Seems to me there are many reasons someone voted for Obama, not many made very much sense.

Here, relax and have a mint:
http://www.philosophersguild.com/ind...by=rank%20DESC

5 dollars, looks like inflation to me.

VK-- Just some observations. You say Palin was unprepared to be President, in your opinion. What about Obama? He was a community organizer. She certainly had more experience than he did.
McPain said he didn't understand economics. No President is an expert in every field. That is why they have advisers.
You say Obama was very smart. How do you know? Have you seen his school records? If so you are the only one.
You said in four years we can vote him out, if he doesn't produce. Unfortuantely, in four years a lot of damage can be done.
Just for the record, I literally held my nose when voting for McPain. As is so often the case, it was the lesser of two evils, in my opinion.

No Need
 

I don't need to see his transcript, Sally Jo. To be admitted to the Harvard Law School, a student has to have an impeccable academic record. Then those selected to write for the Harvard Law Review--those students are the best of the best. And of coruse, he was further recognized by being chosen to serve as the president of the Law Review.

Sorry, Sally Jo, I really don't need to see a transcript.

And by the way, people seem to forget that Obama served two years as an Illinois State Senator and then two more as a United States Senator. Compared to Palin's year and a half as Governor of Alaska and two terms as Mayor of a town of 7,800 people, I'd say their experience was pretty comparable. Should we talk about the experience and ability of both candidates to deal with the foreign relations of the U.S.? Palin didn't even apply for a passport until 2006 and before her nomination to run for the vice presidency, she only traveled outside North America once. In 2007 she visited members of the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait. And of course, we now all know that she knew where Russia was.

VK....while you and I had many discourse on who to vote for back when, and you repeated quite openly exactly what you said at that time during our many back and forths, may I suggest one thing to you...

Over the last months, you DO IN FACT defend Obama, if not directly, then indirectly by shifting blame to the Tea Party, etc. But you DO defend this President on a regular basis and I know I have even agreed with him on some minor points but please dont say you are not a defender because you actually get into full speed defense at times.

To those who question VK's comments on his last vote.....back 3 years ago or more even before Obama was even the candidate, VK said basically what he has says tonight in why he voted for Obama....we had a few conversations over what might happen in 4 years as a result of that.

My question for VK.....someone asked you this earlier and I didnt catch any response....you seem to save yourself an out when you say you wont vote for incumbents....by saying DEPENDS on who the Republicans nominate...and that actually makes sense, but my question to you is this.....Obama versus a Repub you cannot support...do you abstain on the vote for President ?