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Guest 01-09-2012 09:06 AM

TeaPartiers will vote straight ticket for GNopers no matter who is running! Great idea. Kind of the mentality that is used on the playground.

Guest 01-09-2012 09:25 AM

socialism or freedom
 
yes, tea partiers will vote for any GOP candidate because the choice is between a socialist european style government which we can see is not working in europe and will not work here, or a return to free enterprise, less govt interference, capitalism and values which have made this country great and will again if given this one important opportunity....as i have asked before, Is there a French dream? Is there a British dream? NO! there is an American Dream because of our unique republic, our constituion, and our freedoms which are being threatened by leftist ideas. make up your minds, people! it is now or never....

Guest 01-09-2012 09:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438204)
Right now, the biggest obstacle the GOP faces is the fact that unemployment is ticking down. Even the U6 number is down (the number still unemployed but no longer receiving benefits).

That's the one thing the Republicans could hang their hat on that affects Americans in a more immediate mode as opposed to something further on down the road.

Yeah; the real unemployment rate of 15.6% is really a feather in Obama's hat......woo hoo!

(Anaylysis provided by the American Enterprise Institute)

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2780...-rate-15-6.htm

Guest 01-09-2012 09:49 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438255)
yes, tea partiers will vote for any GOP candidate because the choice is between a socialist european style government which we can see is not working in europe and will not work here, or a return to free enterprise, less govt interference, capitalism and values which have made this country great and will again if given this one important opportunity....as i have asked before, Is there a French dream? Is there a British dream? NO! there is an American Dream because of our unique republic, our constituion, and our freedoms which are being threatened by leftist ideas. make up your minds, people! it is now or never....

Wow....it must be a fairly important election coming up if the future of the USA as we know it hangs in the balance. VOTE OBAMA. :laugh:

Guest 01-09-2012 11:25 AM

I think the loyal democrats who continue to rave that Obama will pull the same ethnic groups in the very same percentages as he did in 2008 are extremely loyal (no matter what) or hopeful or optomistic.

He most certainly will not. Many will state he has not delivered to their group as promised. Many will view him more a talker than a walker. Then there are those that were not voting for Obama but against Macain. The independents and youth of America who bought the hope and change message and are not satisfied with the results to date. And lastly those who felt the economy was going south because of the Republicans will be unhappy that the trip not only did not end with Obama but continued further south.

For all the above there will be a substantial number who cast their vote for Obama (VS voting FOR Obama) who will not do so again this time.

I will not pretend to know that there will be sufficient to cause him to lose...the facts of the matter are there are a goodly number who will not buy his rhetoric a second time.

For me it is very simple, the American people, all colors, religions and political persuasions will view it from their perspective....did they get what they expected. I happen to believe there are very many who think not. And they are not as loyally obligated as some who to continue hammering away that he is a slam dunk...thank GOD!

btk

Guest 01-09-2012 12:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438255)
yes, tea partiers will vote for any GOP candidate because the choice is between a socialist european style government which we can see is not working in europe and will not work here, or a return to free enterprise, less govt interference, capitalism and values which have made this country great and will again if given this one important opportunity....as i have asked before, Is there a French dream? Is there a British dream? NO! there is an American Dream because of our unique republic, our constituion, and our freedoms which are being threatened by leftist ideas. make up your minds, people! it is now or never....

How are those tea party candidates working out for you?

Scott Walker - being recalled
John Casich - had his union busting bill overturned
Rick Scott - most disliked governor in the country at 26%
Nikki Haley - approval rating 34%

Not to mention the tea partiers that cost the republican party control of the US senate: Sharon Angle NV, Christine O'Donnell DE, John Raese WV, Ken Buck CO, Carlie Fiorini, CA, Joe Miller AK

Not to mention that nut case that ran for governor of NY (name escapes me)

Seems like lots of people have buyer's remorse. Keep up the good work.

Guest 01-09-2012 12:48 PM

you forgot to list the like kinds of folks on your side of the aisle. Same style as the network news presenting only that which is good for the party of that which belittles the opposition.

Most sentient beings (R or D or black or indian or what ever) are past that.

btk

Guest 01-09-2012 12:53 PM

scott walker
 
scott walker has saved the state of wisconsin millions by getting rid of union owned insurance for teachers...those who are trying to recall him are big union thugs and i hope they are not successful....there are probably similar stories behind the others...rick scott is doing good things for florida such as attempting to get drug testing for welfare recipients, and as usual is thwarted by left leaning, criminal defending ACLU and that ilk....it is THEY who cost the state millions to defend this bill and caused it to be killed. if those are the kind of groups you support, you and the tea party would never see eye to eye....

Guest 01-09-2012 02:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438360)
scott walker has saved the state of wisconsin millions by getting rid of union owned insurance for teachers...those who are trying to recall him are big union thugs and i hope they are not successful....there are probably similar stories behind the others...rick scott is doing good things for florida such as attempting to get drug testing for welfare recipients, and as usual is thwarted by left leaning, criminal defending ACLU and that ilk....it is THEY who cost the state millions to defend this bill and caused it to be killed. if those are the kind of groups you support, you and the tea party would never see eye to eye....

I always thought the tea party supported the constitution. Guess what, Federal Judge Mary Scriben, a George W Bush appointee, ruled that drug testing of welfare recipients violates the Constitutions 4th Amendment ban on illegal search and seizure. Sounds like a real left leaner.

Guest 01-09-2012 03:01 PM

I love it when the Tea Party darling, Christine O'Donnell's name comes up.

Besides her famous witchcraft experiences, she was quoted as saying:

"American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains." --Delaware GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell, discussing cloning with Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1997

How could a party actually support a person like that?

Guest 01-09-2012 03:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438402)
I always thought the tea party supported the constitution. Guess what, Federal Judge Mary Scriben, a George W Bush appointee, ruled that drug testing of welfare recipients violates the Constitutions 4th Amendment ban on illegal search and seizure. Sounds like a real left leaner.

What's the link between the Tea Party and Federal Judge Mary Scriben?

She was appointed by Bush?;............so what. Does anyone really know a person?

Just because she made a ruling doesn't mean she's correct in her thinking. Rulings can be overturned. Maybe this is one of those that will.

Guest 01-09-2012 06:04 PM

Personally, I feel that was a wrong decision on the judge's part. I feel as though welfare recepients should be drug tested at random times - but the testing would be paid for by the state and not the testees.

Guest 01-09-2012 06:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438430)
What's the link between the Tea Party and Federal Judge Mary Scriben?

She was appointed by Bush?;............so what. Does anyone really know a person?

Just because she made a ruling doesn't mean she's correct in her thinking. Rulings can be overturned. Maybe this is one of those that will.

While this program was in effect, 2% of welfare recipients tested positive for drug use, while the program was estimated to cost the state $187,000,000 by some analysts. Way to go Rick Scott. Who will get the kiss-of-death Rick Scott endorsement, and when will the GOP schedule him to speak at the convention in Tampa? I'm guessing maybe the 2:00am hour.

Guest 01-09-2012 06:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 438418)
I love it when the Tea Party darling, Christine O'Donnell's name comes up.

Besides her famous witchcraft experiences, she was quoted as saying:

"American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains." --Delaware GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell, discussing cloning with Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1997

How could a party actually support a person like that?





I wonder if Romney will ask O'Donnell to campaign with him....???

Guest 01-09-2012 10:48 PM

random drug tests
 
since random drug tests are required for many jobs, i do not see why it is unconstitional to require them for receiving welfare. can you explain?


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