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Guest 01-12-2012 03:14 PM

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I was speaking of tea-party candidates who lost or are on their way out. I don't see what this list of democrats has to do with that subject.

Au contraire , I also am talking about candidates who lost or are on their way out with one exception. Yours are based on history...nice guess. Mine are prescient...watch them fall

Guest 01-12-2012 03:20 PM

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John Edwards and John Corzine were not holding public office when they committed their alledged crimes as republicans: Gingrich, DeLay, Ensign, Vitter, Sanford, Foley, Walsh, Lee, Nixon and Agnew were.

Au contraire all we can say is that John Edwards and John corzine did not get caught until after the fact. Beside which do you mean to infer that as long as you don't hold office its OK to be a lousy crook. Isn't dishonesty just plain displicable and should not be tolerated and excused. Lock them all up they breached the public trust

Guest 01-12-2012 03:43 PM

Does anybody have any idea what Romney was talking about when he said the "politics of envy" on the Today show yesterday? Who was he calling the "envious whiners": the democrats, the press, the other candidates, the 99%, or anybody that disagrees with him?

And when he said our tax structure must only be talked about in "a quiet room" did he mean not in the halls of congress or speeches, but only behind closed doors?

And how long will Romney be able to avoid FL's gov, Rick Scott, while campaigning in Florida. Sooner or later, he's going to get the kiss-of-death endorsement.

Guest 01-12-2012 04:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 439610)
Does anybody have any idea what Romney was talking about when he said the "politics of envy" on the Today show yesterday? Who was he calling the "envious whiners": the democrats, the press, the other candidates, the 99%, or anybody that disagrees with him?

And when he said our tax structure must only be talked about in "a quiet room" did he mean not in the halls of congress or speeches, but only behind closed doors?

And how long will Romney be able to avoid FL's gov, Rick Scott, while campaigning in Florida. Sooner or later, he's going to get the kiss-of-death endorsement.




Mitt has already received the kiss-of-death............

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...008/?mobile=nc

Guest 01-12-2012 05:25 PM

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One of the objectives of the coming election is to elect a candidate who will move more government out of our lives.

The governor, local representatives and we the residents of FL are able to fix FL problems.

btk

I hope we residents, the governor and local representatives start doing a better job than we've been doing.

Guest 01-14-2012 02:44 PM

Evangelicals endorse Santorum, officially against Mitt Romney.

Guest 01-14-2012 05:38 PM

So What Have We Concluded Here?
 
We've been all over the waterfront with our responses. Some are still proposing that one of the other candidates, Santorum, Gingrich, Paul or Perry, could wind up being the GOP nominee. If everyone takes a calm look at things, I think we can agree that's unlikely.

By the morning of January 22, we can be pretty sure who the Republican nominee will be, and it's likely to be Mitt Romney. Now back to the original question...will he get enough Republican and independent votes to beat Barack Obama?

Someone just opined that the evangelical conservatives will never vote for Mormon Romney. If true, that's a big chunk of voters, maybe as much as 25% of the GOP "base".

Will the Tea Partiers and right-to-lifers feel as strongly about refusing to support Romney because of his statements and positions on "their" issues? Combined, those groups might represent another 25% of the GOP base.

The failure of these groups to support Romney goes a long way towards explaining why he's never been able to garner more than about 30-35% of those who call themselves Republicans or conservatives.

So it looks like Romney might be left with maybe half those that identify themselves as conservatives, those closer to the middle of the political spectrum, who are very likely to vote for him. I think they might even be enthusiastic about his candidacy. But that's nowhere near enough for Romney to come even close to winning the popular vote. And I'm not even addressing the electoral vote, which actually will elect the POTUS who will serve for the next four years.

So sooner or later the political pundits will begin the discussion...will the Christian conservatives, Tea Partiers and right-to-lifers actually withold their votes from Romney, knowing that by doing so will almost assuredly guarantee Barack Obama's re-election? Will their be enough independents and disappointed Democrats who will vote for Romney, replacing the special interest conservatives unwilling to operate within the rules of our electoral democracy?

As I've said here before, I think President Obama has a glass jaw when it comes to any assurance that he will be re-elected. But the unwillingness of large factions within the Republican/conservative movement to compromise and support Mitt Romney, who might not represent all that they're looking for, might actually assure another four years of faulty leadership by a progressive Democratic president.

I surely hope that all those who might identify themselves as conservatives will consider whether the country might be better off with Romney as POTUS, or whether because of their steadfast commitment to a narrow set of ideals or litmus tests, that they'd be willing to contribute to the re-election of the current president.

Guest 01-14-2012 06:30 PM

Let's sum this up, shall we?

1. Romney will be the R nominee.

2. The cons will hold their noses and back him.

3. Obama wins reelection.


BTW there is a debate tonight.

Guest 01-14-2012 07:03 PM

There is also a playoff football game tonight. Definitely will watch the football instead of Republicans.

Guest 01-14-2012 07:05 PM

Romney is so glad they're talking about Bain Capital. This means they're not talking about flip-flops, IMHO.

Guest 01-14-2012 07:53 PM

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Let's sum this up, shall we?

1. Romney will be the R nominee.

2. The cons will hold their noses and back him.

3. Obama wins reelection.

I hope all left leaning Americans think like this so we can get rid of this guy. I am sorry but he is not good for our future!

If I was a lefty I would not even go to vote because he is a shoe-in because of his great record of turning the US around and bringing us all together. Not to mention how much better we are thought of now by the rest of the world.
You know, because we are not as great as we use to be and we are lazy and no longer the leaders of the world.
Yeah, I hope he wins again so we can continue to shrink into the country the rest of the world wants us to be!

Guest 01-14-2012 08:53 PM

right now there is a lot of jack jawing about the choices the republicans have to make and what flavor will be picked by which ever group.

In November this speculating circus and arm waving and wild a$$ guessing will all be passe'. The real choice republicans ( and dissatisfied democrats) will have then will be Romney or Obama.

The made up debate whether a Mormon can win or not is about as daunting as to whether a black could win or not....eh?

btk

Guest 01-14-2012 09:01 PM

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The made up debate whether a Mormon can win or not is about as daunting as to whether a black could win or not....eh?

btk


ooooooooo; BAM!!; that's gonna leave a mark.

Guest 01-14-2012 09:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 440496)
There is also a playoff football game tonight. Definitely will watch the football instead of Republicans.





Can't refudiate that - watched the first minute of the "debate" - except it is not a debate. It's a forum where the candidates appear alone (Paul refused to participate) and they answer softball questions asked by plants in the audience.

The "groundrules" are that they cannot criticize another R candidate.

NE and Denver is far more entertaining -and the last few minutes of NO and SF wasn't too bad either.

Guest 01-19-2012 05:17 PM

Romney's Tax Returns
 
When will Gov Romney release his tax returns? I read an editorial in today's paper that said President Obama released seven years of returns in 2008 and has released his every year since then. I want to see Romney's returns before I cast my vote on Jan. 31.


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