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mellincf 10-03-2017 09:06 AM

What the band thought. Caleb Keeter, the group’s lead guitarist, spoke up: “l’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:
We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.
Enough is enough.

dirtbanker 10-03-2017 09:45 AM

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We are living in a time where there is a great deal of violence, much of which is related to guns.

Extreme voices on both the liberal and conservative way of thinking seem to drown out the necessary intelligent discussion about what to do to diminish the chances that more gun violence will take more innocent lives.

There are compelling instances of both law and emotion being screamed at each other currently, and no-one is looking at ways that we, as a nation, can address this situation.

As of today, and not counting the possible deaths of any of the surviving people who were injured in the gun violence of Las Vegas, over 407 people have had their lives ended as a result of gun violence this year alone. That does not include the many other instances in past years, but it does warrant the questioning of our leaders why has nothing been done to address this issue?

Currently a gun law that would permit silencers to become legal is before Congress, and just recently a bill was defeated in Congress relating to having background checks be performed before a purchase of a firearm could commence.

It looks like we cannot have confidence in our elected representatives to actually represent you, and me: their constituents. It looks like a national organization which has, in the past, directed significant funds to political candidates that support unfettered access to any kind of firearm, and made huge economic efforts against any who would even have an intelligent discourse about some sort of limitations.

Political groups will now rise up and blame their counterparts, but we will still have the problem before us. We need to actually start talking WITH each other, find solutions TOGETHER, and stop being so divisive as a nation and intolerant of each other.

Please contact your representatives and ask them to start talking with each other to address this, and many other problems. If they are not responsive, consider using your VOTE to change direction from being polarized and blaming each other to being an instrument of making America better and working together for that end.

You don't want to discuss anything, just parrot liberal fear and drama...

You are an idiot Boy...that leaves you out of any intelligent conversation...go ahead post some liberal picture for response...

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dirtbanker 10-03-2017 09:52 AM

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What the band thought. Caleb Keeter, the group’s lead guitarist, spoke up: “l’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:
We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.
Enough is enough.

Wonder why such a proponent of the 2nd amendment did not carry a firearm himself, left that to the crew?

He probably wished he did not play the guitar at the concert too...the guy is obviously a shooken liberal that voted for Crooked Hillary...probably smokes weed too.

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Taltarzac725 10-03-2017 09:53 AM

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What the band thought. Caleb Keeter, the group’s lead guitarist, spoke up: “l’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:
We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.
Enough is enough.

Well said.

dirtbanker 10-03-2017 09:55 AM

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Why then is the USA the "murder by gun" capital of the universe? Other countries don't have this problem. Of course, other countries don't have a Congress which has their balls in the moneyclip of the NRA.

Other countries don't have the numerous good things the USA has, but if you like one of those other countries so much...move there!

Someone else will be happy to buy your inefficient home built on a filled swamp!!


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dirtbanker 10-03-2017 10:00 AM

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Well said.

Did you look up Caleb Keeters birthday yet? Wait till you see the numbers!!


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wjboyer1 10-03-2017 10:13 AM

Largest Study to Date Finds Powerful Evidence That Gun Control Actually Works
 
Article:Largest study to date finds powerful evidence that gun control actually works - ScienceAlert


Actual Study-

https://watermark.silverchair.com/ap...tGFQZYfhVRyX3U

wjboyer1 10-03-2017 10:45 AM

Gun violence in America, explained in 17 maps and charts
 
Want charts and graphs to show the problem?

America’s unique gun violence problem, explained in 17 maps and charts - Vox

dirtbanker 10-03-2017 10:50 AM

Suggests there would have been 64 people shot in Chicago this past weekend...instead of the 32 that were actially shot by illegal gun owners this past weekend??

If so, I guess someone could say the laws, that these people do not abide by, cut down the number of people shot...LOL, Lil Boy!

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wjboyer1 10-03-2017 12:34 PM

Do 90% of Americans support background checks for all gun sales?
 
Do 90% of Americans support background checks for all gun sales? | PolitiFact Wisconsin

wjboyer1 10-03-2017 12:53 PM

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Interesting spread sheet compilation
 
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones’ Investigation – Mother Jones

dirtbanker 10-03-2017 01:42 PM

They do background checks already...

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rubicon 10-03-2017 01:44 PM

Seems to me this dead horse has been beaten enough?

Personal Best Regards:

wjboyer1 10-03-2017 01:45 PM

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They do background checks already...

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Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals -- federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks. ... Some states' requirements are limited only to handgun purchases.

Shimpy 10-03-2017 03:12 PM

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. First, in the neighboring State of Indiana, there are very lenient gun laws that, because of its close proximity to Chicago, happen to supply the majority of guns that have been identified by police as used in crime.

But bringing guns into Chicago from Indiana would be against the law wouldn't it? Why doesn't the law work? Why do criminals bring in the guns if they know it's against the law?.........because criminals don't obey laws.


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