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dave harris 03-27-2017 10:01 AM

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Now, that's just plain STUPID, Davie. Are you STUPID? Everyone knows that the left are commies. So, if Trump was a commie sympathizer, you leftards would be supporting him.

If Trump, a guy that hardly knows the man is considered to have a personal relationship with Putin, then what does that make Hillary that received millions of bucks from Putin? A lover?

Document your allegations, or butt out.

dave harris 03-27-2017 10:04 AM

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NOT HARDLY! Trump is NOT for big government! And his marital status is no worse than the majority of most Americans. Before his inauguration, his family and cronies had made their own fortunes, and all of them only want to improve government NOT make it larger. Trump has accomplished more in the 2 months of his appointment than Obama accomplished in eight years. The man never sleeps, but the former president slept on the job while the girls in the White House ran the show.

So the majority of most Americans have been married three times and committed adultery among other things.

LadyPenO 03-27-2017 10:05 AM

Eight years and Obama accomplished NOTHING, while each and every day, you and the liberal fake news media expects the wall to be built right away. Rome wasn't built in a day, so don't expect the wall or healthcare to be built in a day! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! When does the man sleep?!! He's up tweeting at 4 and 5 most mornings, and working into the night, which Obama never put in a full day. I as a distruster of fake news would rather have it straight from the man via twitter than the fake news media.

dave harris 03-27-2017 10:10 AM

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Give me some examples of Putin "owns him." Did trump receive millions of bucks from Putin, like Hillary and Podesta? Or doesn't Putin like Trump as much as he likes them?

Donald Trump on Vladimir Putin: In his own words - CNNPolitics.com

It doesn't get any clearer that trump is in bed with putin,he does it with woman also. Document the " receive millions of bucks from Putin, like Hillary and Podesta"

dave harris 03-27-2017 10:12 AM

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Eight years and Obama accomplished NOTHING, while each and every day, you and the liberal fake news media expects the wall to be built right away. Rome wasn't built in a day, so don't expect the wall or healthcare to be built in a day! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! When does the man sleep?!! He's up tweeting at 4 and 5 most mornings, and working into the night, which Obama never put in a full day. I as a distruster of fake news would rather have it straight from the man via twitter than the fake news media.

"Eight years and Obama accomplished NOTHING" What a pathetic statement, but what can you expect from the mentally challenged.

dillywho 03-27-2017 01:59 PM

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My post for the day, but this guy is so challenged....

He will call anything negative about Trump false news. He does not have a response except to call it fake news.

Notice in any discussions on the Health Bill put forward, that he NEVER discusses the CONTENT of the bill which was terrible to begin with, and made worse by Trumps "negotiating". This man does not care the content, just his hero, Trump. Not content.

Blaming Democrats is more than stupid...he never asked for their help...NEVER. He began name calling of them early on, yet according to this poster, the Democrats or his favotite word "progressives" are at fault.

Trump is destroying the Republican party

No discussion from this poster about how he can pass tax reform without knowing cost of healthcare. Going to be difficult.

No discussion from this poster on his threats to Republicans behind the scenes, OR his total lack of knowledge of the bill.

To your point, I do not think he can Google...certainly he reads ONLY what feeds his hate for so many Americans....hate because they do not March lock step with he and Trump.

It is very sad that Bannon and his ilk now control this party.

Excuse me, but where is it said that Democrats need to have an "invitation" to participate in Congressional matters? Democrats, namely Schumer and Pelosi, said before the talks ever started that they wanted no part of it and would not support ANYTHING the Republicans came up with; yet, you complain that President Trump never ASKED them?

Why does he have to know the cost of health care before he can reform taxes? That has absolutely nothing to do with other taxes out there. The one thing I remember about that part is that he wants to do away with fining people on their tax returns because they don't take part in the mandatory requirement of obtaining Obamacare. I totally agree. People should never have been fined in the first place. Why should people be penalized for something that they can not afford? I can't afford a Cadillac, either, but at least I don't have to pay a fine for driving something else or nothing at all. This was ruled by the Supreme Court to be a tax in the first place, but yet I don't think it is deductible or included in the standard tax deduction for those who do not itemize. Is it? That begs the question also: Is that a tax and not a fine, if requiring the purchase price of insurance has been ruled a tax? Just asking.

As for the President's total lack of knowledge of the content of the bill, when in business (yes, government is a business now) does the one at the top have complete knowledge of policies/procedures as they are being written by those assigned to take care of it? No, when they have finished, it is submitted to him to approve/disapprove, and make changes if necessary. It's called 'delegate'. If at that time, he doesn't read and totally understand but signs it anyway, then HE owns it because he signed off on it.

Rockyrd 03-27-2017 02:16 PM

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Excuse me, but where is it said that Democrats need to have an "invitation" to participate in Congressional matters? Democrats, namely Schumer and Pelosi, said before the talks ever started that they wanted no part of it and would not support ANYTHING the Republicans came up with; yet, you complain that President Trump never ASKED them?

Why does he have to know the cost of health care before he can reform taxes? That has absolutely nothing to do with other taxes out there. The one thing I remember about that part is that he wants to do away with fining people on their tax returns because they don't take part in the mandatory requirement of obtaining Obamacare. I totally agree. People should never have been fined in the first place. Why should people be penalized for something that they can not afford? I can't afford a Cadillac, either, but at least I don't have to pay a fine for driving something else or nothing at all. This was ruled by the Supreme Court to be a tax in the first place, but yet I don't think it is deductible or included in the standard tax deduction for those who do not itemize. Is it? That begs the question also: Is that a tax and not a fine, if requiring the purchase price of insurance has been ruled a tax? Just asking.

As for the President's total lack of knowledge of the content of the bill, when in business (yes, government is a business now) does the one at the top have complete knowledge of policies/procedures as they are being written by those assigned to take care of it? No, when they have finished, it is submitted to him to approve/disapprove, and make changes if necessary. It's called 'delegate'. If at that time, he doesn't read and totally understand but signs it anyway, then HE owns it because he signed off on it.

I think the Democrats said they would take a pass as long as the basic must have was REPEAL. They have expressed that message a few times since Friday.
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Tax cuts, or reform WILL affect the national deficit. Depending on health care, one of largest items, in the budget is a major consideration, at least in my opinion.
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President Trump is the lead man now. He, and he alone has been selling this particular bill for many many months.

"As House Republicans moved towards a vote on the health care bill, GOP lawmakers characterized his role similarly. This week, in advance of meetings with Republicans who opposed the bill, Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-North Carolina) called Trump "the closer." Final support for the bill would be won by Trump, who would use his skills as a dealmaker to push it over the finish line.

Trump repeatedly promised to repeal and replace Obamacare with "something terrific." But he never described the policy mechanisms of the replacement he preferred. And the outcomes he described—coverage for everyone, lower premiums, no changes to Medicaid—had little or no connection to the bill that House Republicans eventually drew up.

That didn't seem to matter to the president. As has always been the case with Trump, making a deal—any deal—was all that mattered.

In the end, though, the bill died. Trump couldn't close the deal. And one of the biggest reasons that Trump couldn't close the deal is that he didn't understand or care about the details.


The GOP’s Obamacare Repeal Bill Is Dead Because Trump Doesn’t Understand How Health Policy Works - Hit & Run : Reason.com

"President Trump was downright low energy.

The look on his face, as he meandered through unscripted remarks Friday after the defeat of the Republican health care plan he supported, told the story. The unusually subdued Trump called the loss a "learning experience." Then he seemed to shrug it all off and said he was moving on.


But it's hardly going to be that simple or easy. The same fissures in the GOP that derailed the health care bill will be there when it comes to any big issue moving forward, whether it's tax reform, infrastructure or funding the government. And Republicans warn that, unless the president is willing to learn and own the details, the result will likely be the same — failure.

Trump's agenda may be doomed unless he learns that 'little' stuff matters | Minnesota Public Radio News

Rockyrd 03-27-2017 02:30 PM

And this, of course.


"Enter the Freedom Caucus. Trump and Ryan asked this secretive coterie of nearly three dozen congressmen (and yes, they are all men) to vote for a bill that manages a measly 17 percent approval rating. President Trump did make some concessions with the far-right wing of the party, agreeing to cut language about so-called “essential health benefits” like mental health and emergency room coverage. But the bill preserves some pieces of Obamacare, which members of the Freedom Caucus have long promised to repeal.

“This is a case where it does seem that the advantages to him are clear, and the advantages to the members are unclear,” Thaler says. Trump’s ultimatum, then, appears to have overplayed its hand. It was precisely the kind of deal that gets turned down."


Trump's Ultimatum Caused the AHCA Health Care Bill Failure | WIRED

Rockyrd 03-27-2017 02:51 PM

It IS a learning experience, not a PRIVATE REAL ESTATE where you own it and answer to nobody and cn insult and bully all you want.

Hope he learns and manifests that by getting two parties together could be his great achievement.

"Spicer conceded that the shift to working with Democrats would mark a significant break by the White House, which believed it could rely on GOP majorities to pass legislation. He added that the White House is launching a post-mortem to discover what went right and what went wrong with the health care bill.Trump's outreach to Democrats may be hampered by his past remarks. In January, he called Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer "head clown" of the party. His unfavorable rating among the Democratic grassroots, meantime, is at a sky-high 85 percent, according to one recent poll.

Donald Trump Changes Tone on Democrats After Health Care | Time.com

mklewdow 03-27-2017 04:15 PM

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We are obsessed because he is destroying our country, something you with blinders on can't see, or because your a trumpster do not care. When you are affected in the pocket book you will be the first to bitch, and it is coming.

Obama already destroyed our country. Trump has a HUGE mess trying to undo the ravages of past administration.

sunglow 03-27-2017 04:32 PM

NOBODY OWNS HIM???? HOW about the RUSSIANS!!!!

Rockyrd 03-27-2017 04:39 PM

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Obama already destroyed our country. Trump has a HUGE mess trying to undo the ravages of past administration.

.....Russia invades our electoral system in order to help Trump. Trump says it didn't happen and then ho-hums any investigation. Many, not a few Trump folks have direct and striping ties to Russia. Major part confirmed, Congress still investigating Trump involvement.

.....Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping. Congress investigates. No evidence to support.

.....Trump accuses US of allowing 5 million illegals to fraudently vote. No evidence, investigation on going.

A few of the "ravages" of the past 90 days, none related to Obama.

You can not like Obama policies, as I did not, but the only mess facing us now is the current 90 day administration.

Would you prefer discussion on health care, taxes, etc ? I sure would, but Trump has given us investigations, fake news, slander, and on and on.

You can express anger at Obama policies, none of which Trump is trying to clean up..fact is he is adopting much of what Obama was doing, but mess....no way. The last 90 days have been very messy.

I might add, and I realize that degree I cant be specific on , but entirely not debate able is what he has done to the Presidency itself and our foreign image. We,through out the world are a laughing stock as is our Presidency. Our allies do not trust us one bit...because of Trump lies in just 90 days. He had embarassed himself and our country before the foreign press...imagine OUR PRESIDENT claiming publcally before the international press and the President of Germany that he thinks our friends the UK helped to wiretap him and he, the leader of the free world with a super intelligence system, bases that on Judge Napalitano on Fox.

sunglow 03-27-2017 05:08 PM

I'm curious. In what way did Obama destroy our country??

dave harris 03-27-2017 05:22 PM

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Obama already destroyed our country. Trump has a HUGE mess trying to undo the ravages of past administration.

Since you know so much, elaborate how "Obama already destroyed our country."

de·stroy
dəˈstroi/
verb
past tense: destroyed; past participle: destroyed
put an end to the existence of (something) by damaging or attacking it.
"the room had been destroyed by fire"
synonyms: demolish, knock down, level, raze (to the ground), fell;

ColdNoMore 03-27-2017 05:40 PM

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Obama already destroyed our country. Trump has a HUGE mess trying to undo the ravages of past administration.

Oh puhleeze! :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

You must be 8 years old, because there is no way you were alive when Obama took over the utter meltdown of this great country (while under 43)...and then watching The Simpleton slink out of office. :oops:

No one can be THAT ignorant. :ohdear:



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