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Guest 07-30-2012 01:46 PM

If I drive North 49 miles I can get a Chic Fil A sandwich. The fight and divisive actions of folks over a friggin chicken joint is unbelievable. Folks need to be watching who is going the fill the void in Syria when it falls. More Muslim extremist. Watch for it. The United Muslim Brotherhood is around the corner.

Guest 07-30-2012 02:22 PM

Don't be fooled into this paranoia: Do your own research for normal publications and articles on the subject.

The Convoluted Connections That Link Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood - National - The Atlantic Wire

We have more to fear from Americans bent on Conspiracy theories than the Muslim Brotherhood. And I fear Muslims, but I don't stand guard in my bedroom in full battle dress uniform.

Guest 07-30-2012 02:44 PM

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I've been pointedly ignoring you for an extended period and only break that now temporarily to point out to others your "head in the sand" views on Ms. Huma Abedin. You are completely out of touch on the issues regarding this woman, regarding her position and her security access.

There is plenty to be concerned about coupled with all the evidence of ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and Ms. Huma Abedin.

Everyone who's paying attention already knows that Ms. Aberdin's mother, brother and late father are/were connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.

But with more investigation it turns out that Ms. Aberdin herself is directly connected to a Abdullah Omar Naseef who is a major Muslim Brotherhood figure involved in the financing of al-Qaeda. Ms. Abedin worked for years as an editor of the journal of the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs.That Institute was founded by the aforementioned Abdullah Omar Naseef, who remained active in it for decades, overlapping for several years with Ms.Abedin.

Naseef was also secretary general of the Muslim World League in Saudi Arabia, reportedly the most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world. In that position, he founded the Rabita Trust, which is formally designated as a foreign terrorist organization under American law due to its support of al-Qaeda.

A person need not have done any wrongdoing to be denied high ranking government positions, or most importantly be denied security clearances that would allow access to classified info. There only needs to be a conflict of interest based on associations, allegiances or association with foreign interests.

The simple probing of the extensive and disturbing ties to the Muslim Brotherhood of Ms. Abedin’s family should have been sufficient to declare Ms. Abedin ineligible for any significant government position, let alone her own personal and longstanding connection to Abdullah Omar Naseef’s organization.

All in all Rep. Michelle Bachmann is to be commended for shining the light on this woman, and Sen. John McCain should be hanging his head in shame.

Ordered Liberty » Huma Abedin’s Brotherhood Ties Are Not Just a Family Affair

richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

Guest 07-30-2012 02:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 531159)
Don't be fooled into this paranoia: Do your own research for normal publications and articles on the subject.

The Convoluted Connections That Link Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood - National - The Atlantic Wire

We have more to fear from Americans bent on Conspiracy theories than the Muslim Brotherhood. And I fear Muslims, but I don't stand guard in my bedroom in full battle dress uniform.

The Atlantic Wire is a "normal" publication? Yeah, OK if you think so.

Still, Ms. Abedin's prior relationship in Naseef's organization is fact, and Naseef's position as a money bundler for al Qaeda is fact, and Ms. Abedin's family's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is fact.

Why you're so blindly excusing Ms. Abedin's shady history with the Muslim Brotherhood is very curious.

Guest 07-30-2012 02:49 PM

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richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

I agree. Too many times folks will see or hear one opinion and take it as the truth. We must read all opinions before we use our brain to make a decision. There are folks on the internet that believe the first thing they see rather it is right or wrong.

Guest 07-30-2012 02:52 PM

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I agree. Too many times folks will see or hear one opinion and take it as the truth. We must read all opinions before we use our brain to make a decision. There are folks on the internet that believe the first thing they see rather it is right or wrong.

Please define for me your difference between "a fact" and "an opinion"

Guest 07-30-2012 02:56 PM

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Please define for me your difference between "a fact" and "an opinion"

OK Mr Rubicon. Here is one more of many that clearly find M Bachmann's accusations to be false and unsubstantiated. We should be vigil if Romney or so many other honest and Sane republicans would make the charge, but Bachmann, Really.

Guest 07-30-2012 02:57 PM

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richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

Rubi, your bias is showing. Facts are seldom irrefutable, and are often twisted, taken out of context, and generally manipulated by writers on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. One reason I seldom post links is that it will simply prompt a response with a link from a 180 degree differing viewpoint. Most of what is posted here is opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs. Virtually anyone who posts on a forum of this type has a viewpoint that aligns with either the right or left, and everything they opine on and every link they post will be from that viewpoint. I personally am more interested in well stated and reasonable opinions than with articles from a slanted point of view.

Guest 07-30-2012 03:12 PM

Another article that points a finger at Bachmann for her comments from a highly respected Party leader.

John Boehner Goes After Bachmann’s Clinton Aide/Muslim Brotherhood Remarks: ‘Pretty Dangerous’ | Mediaite

Guest 07-30-2012 03:43 PM

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The Atlantic Wire is a "normal" publication? Yeah, OK if you think so.

Still, Ms. Abedin's prior relationship in Naseef's organization is fact, and Naseef's position as a money bundler for al Qaeda is fact, and Ms. Abedin's family's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is fact.

Why you're so blindly excusing Ms. Abedin's shady history with the Muslim Brotherhood is very curious.

... and, RichieLion, if you follow Huma Abedin's history and connections for a couple of more degrees, she is related to Kevin Bacon!

Guest 07-30-2012 03:44 PM

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Another article that points a finger at Bachmann for her comments from a highly respected Party leader.

John Boehner Goes After Bachmann’s Clinton Aide/Muslim Brotherhood Remarks: ‘Pretty Dangerous’ | Mediaite

We all know exactly what finger that John Boehner should be pointing at The Minnesota Moron.

Guest 07-30-2012 04:14 PM

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Rubi, your bias is showing. Facts are seldom irrefutable, and are often twisted, taken out of context, and generally manipulated by writers on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. One reason I seldom post links is that it will simply prompt a response with a link from a 180 degree differing viewpoint. Most of what is posted here is opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs. Virtually anyone who posts on a forum of this type has a viewpoint that aligns with either the right or left, and everything they opine on and every link they post will be from that viewpoint. I personally am more interested in well stated and reasonable opinions than with articles from a slanted point of view.

Bias: a preference or an inclination especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.

Belief: mental acceptance of and conviction in truth, acuality or validity of something

While both of the above definitions are suspetible to perception, I have spent my entire career invesitgating people's veracity developing facts that will stand up in a court of law, etc

I stand by my comments....that's my story and i am sticking to it:pepper2:

Guest 07-30-2012 04:20 PM

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... and, RichieLion, if you follow Huma Abedin's history and connections for a couple of more degrees, she is related to Kevin Bacon!

Your goofiness does not change the facts of Ms Abedin's background and connection to the Muslim Brotherhood no matter how you and Ed W. refuse to acknowledge those facts.

All you two have are empty hands and empty words now.

Guest 07-31-2012 12:06 AM

Good for Mr. Cathy and I totally respect him for his courage and standing by his convictions. Sad how some are quick to blindly call someone a bigot when they really know so little about him. I would have to say the name callers are the ones with the problem since their approach to anything or anyone that does not agree with them is to start calling them names.

BTW Chic Filet has great food and a clean enviorment..

Guest 07-31-2012 05:57 AM

Supporters are ask to stop by a chick-fil-a on Wednesday. Think Wednesday is a good day to treat my wife to a tasty chicken sandwich

Guest 07-31-2012 06:03 AM

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Your goofiness does not change the facts of Ms Abedin's background and connection to the Muslim Brotherhood no matter how you and Ed W. refuse to acknowledge those facts.

All you two have are empty hands and empty words now.


richielion: You know that expression "in awe" well when it comes to liberals logic and responses I am "confused and dazed" which quickly turns to "sadness and pity" How can we give a hand up to our liberal brothers and sisters?

Guest 07-31-2012 06:03 AM

I'm in, where is the closest one to the villages?

Guest 07-31-2012 06:24 AM

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I'm in, where is the closest one to the villages?

On 441 near the Target. You can see chick-fil-a from 441 bon appetit

Guest 07-31-2012 07:46 AM

Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

Guest 07-31-2012 08:05 AM

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?
That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. Only from a liberal...

Guest 07-31-2012 08:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 531507)
Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

Great question. I would like to know the answer to that one.

Guest 07-31-2012 08:35 AM

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Good for Mr. Cathy and I totally respect him for his courage and standing by his convictions. Sad how some are quick to blindly call someone a bigot when they really know so little about him. I would have to say the name callers are the ones with the problem since their approach to anything or anyone that does not agree with them is to start calling them names.

BTW Chic Filet has great food and a clean enviorment..

:agree:

Guest 07-31-2012 08:37 AM

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

why do that?

Guest 07-31-2012 08:41 AM

Here's the answer. Why doesn't the minimum wage employee who obviously has the skills and knowledge of a CEO get the capital and start their own 1600 store business? That way they won't have to make minimum wage anymore. What a concept!

Are some liberals that unsuccessful in life that they hate anyone who is successful?

Hey golfingnut, how many jobs do you provide young people just getting started in the workforce? How much are you paying them?

Guest 07-31-2012 08:55 AM

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?


Instead if just blowing hot air, why don't you go to a chick-fil-a, buy a sandwich and ask the first young person behind the counter that helps you the question? Ask them how they feel?

Afraid of the answer?

Guest 07-31-2012 08:56 AM

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Here's the answer. Why doesn't the minimum wage employee who obviously has the skills and knowledge of a CEO get the capital and start their own 1600 store business? That way they won't have to make minimum wage anymore. What a concept!

Are some liberals that unsuccessful in life that they hate anyone who is successful?

Hey golfingnut, how many jobs do you provide young people just getting started in the workforce? How much are you paying them?

None, I am retired. My turn. Do you really believe the stars and bars is not a racist symbol.

Guest 07-31-2012 08:59 AM

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None, I am retired. My turn.
Ok, so how many jobs DID you provide for young people just starting in the workforce and how much did you pay them?

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Do you really believe the stars and bars is not a racist symbol.
I don't know, ask him.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYzAqHD1gHc&feature=related]The True South Through My Eyes - HK Edgerton- YouTube[/ame]

Guest 07-31-2012 09:29 AM

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Ok, so how many jobs DID you provide for young people just starting in the workforce and how much did you pay them?



I don't know, ask him.

The True South Through My Eyes - HK Edgerton- YouTube

I worked for the Federal government via the United States Army most of my life and that was a large business so I have to say none.

I watched video you attached: THE TRUE SOUTH THROUGH MY EYES. Once again, I must stop and think about that. WOW that is truly a moving video with a take on the stars and bars that I never Heard, never Considered. I am left speechless. Thank you for the video and I will search my heart for a different understanding about the Confederacy and their flag. I have been humbled by that wonderful witness to the south.

Guest 07-31-2012 09:39 AM

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That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. Only from a liberal...

:agree:

Guest 07-31-2012 09:39 AM

So my point is,

I don't see anyone here providing work for the millions of young people out of work so why pound away at those who do?

The question was asked

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?
My answer is simple... why don't you guys go ask them? I'm sure they have an opinion.

As far as the stars and bars, some think it is and some think it isn't. That's obvious. If you call one racist, you have to call the other racist I would think because the stars and strips was the northern flag flying over most all of the slave ships, not the confederate flag. It's all a matter of opinion and how much research you want to do.

I know many here of both colors that are proud of the stars and bars. Some feel otherwise for sure.

Guest 07-31-2012 09:41 AM

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Great question. I would like to know the answer to that one.

another redistributionist liberal progressive I presume.

Guest 07-31-2012 09:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 531531)
Here's the answer. Why doesn't the minimum wage employee who obviously has the skills and knowledge of a CEO get the capital and start their own 1600 store business? That way they won't have to make minimum wage anymore. What a concept!

Are some liberals that unsuccessful in life that they hate anyone who is successful?

Hey golfingnut, how many jobs do you provide young people just getting started in the workforce? How much are you paying them?

:agree:

Guest 07-31-2012 09:50 AM

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I worked for the Federal government via the United States Army most of my life and that was a large business so I have to say none.

I watched video you attached: THE TRUE SOUTH THROUGH MY EYES. Once again, I must stop and think about that. WOW that is truly a moving video with a take on the stars and bars that I never Heard, never Considered. I am left speechless. Thank you for the video and I will search my heart for a different understanding about the Confederacy and their flag. I have been humbled by that wonderful witness to the south.



if you do not like the South why did you move here to a 99% white community? Protest with your feet. Facing off and keep walking.

The stars and bars is history. Nothing more nothing less. It happened to be the banner of the confederation of states that was trying to preserve their manpower tradition. It is a piece of cloth. Nothing more and nothing less unless you're the type who just refuses to move on.

Guest 07-31-2012 09:57 AM

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if you do not like the South why did you move here to a 99% white community? Protest with your feet. Facing off and keep walking.

The stars and bars is history. Nothing more nothing less. It happened to be the banner of the confederation of states that was trying to preserve their manpower tradition. It is a piece of cloth. Nothing more and nothing less unless you're the type who just refuses to move on.

I love the south and I am white, so I am confused to just what you are trying to say. Sorry if you don't know either.

Guest 07-31-2012 10:13 AM

I think in general there are very few people who are truly racist except for the most extreme. Living in TN for the last 4.5 years I have yet to meet one, black or white. People should be judged on the content of their character not the color of their skin. Many here in TN are proud of the starts and bars as it relates to their true history and ancestry... both black and white.

Guest 07-31-2012 10:39 AM

Good history lesson.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-QIJyLhKQ&feature=related]Behind The Dixie Stars - YouTube[/ame]

Guest 07-31-2012 12:18 PM

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I think in general there are very few people who are truly racist except for the most extreme. Living in TN for the last 4.5 years I have yet to meet one, black or white. People should be judged on the content of their character not the color of their skin. Many here in TN are proud of the starts and bars as it relates to their true history and ancestry... both black and white.

I am going to embrace that thought and I thank you for it.

Guest 07-31-2012 01:10 PM

The accusations about Truett Cathy being too selfish to pay more than minimum wage leave me speechless, so I will refer the prejudiced, bigoted vilifiers of him to this, as a start:

"Cathy has dedicated his time and resources to many philanthropic causes, focusing on those related to the welfare of needy children. In 1984, Cathy established the WinShape Foundation, named for its mission to shape winners.

WinShape Foundation consists of WinShape Homes, WinShape Retreat, WinShape Marriage, WinShape Camps, WinShape, College Program, WinShape Wilderness and WinShape International. In 2010, the foundation provided roughly $18 million to fund the development of foster homes and summer camp.

Past donations from the WinShape Foundation include the funding of several college scholarships and marriage counseling programs. The foundation has awarded nearly 820 students of Berry College with scholarships of up to $32,000. WinShape has also donated an estimated $5 million to pro family groups since 2003. Approximately $2 million was given in 2009 and almost the same amount in 2010. s caused consternation for advocates that have denounced the chain over its support of groups opposed to same-sex marriage, and has led to instances of movements to refuse or remove Chick-fil-A restaurants and products from college and university campuses; Northeastern University's Student Senate voted on February 28, 2012 to cancel plans for an on-campus Chick-fil-A restaurant.

In 2008, Cathy's WinShape foundation became the winner of the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic leadership which awarded it $250,000 towards future philanthropy, as a result of its contributions to society. The prize was created to further ideals such as personal responsibility, resourcefulness, volunteerism, scholarship, individual freedom, faith in God, and helping people who help themselves. It honors living philanthropists who have shown exemplary leadership through their charitable giving, highlights the power of philanthropy to achieve positive change, and seeks to inspire others to support charities that achieve genuine results.

Additionally, Cathy has dedicated his time and resources towards welcoming homeless children into his home and has taught in Sunday school sessions. He has fostered children for over 30 years, and has since taken in nearly 200 foster children through WinShape Homes. WinShape Homes is a long-term foster care program that includes 11 foster homes throughout Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee.[7][8]

Cathy also has a Leadership Scholarship program for Chick-fil-A restaurant employees, which has awarded more than $23 million in $1,000 scholarships in the past 35 years.[8]
In recognition of his philanthropic efforts through WinShape, Cathy received the Children's Champion Award for Family and Community from the charitable organization Children's Hunger Fund in 2011.

Honors and memberships
......Cathy has received numerous honors, including membership in Omicron Delta Kappa (OΔK), the National Leadership Honor Society. He received OΔK's highest award, the Laurel Crowned Circle Award in 2009. He also received the Norman Vincent and Ruth Stafford Peale Humanitarian Award, the Horatio Alger Award, the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic Leadership, and the Boy Scouts of America Silver Buffalo Award. Cathy was inducted into the Junior Achievement U.S. Business Hall of Fame in 2003.......

S. Truett Cathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guest 07-31-2012 01:25 PM

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The accusations about Truett Cathy being too selfish to pay more than minimum wage leave me speechless, so I will refer the prejudiced, bigoted vilifiers of him to this, as a start:

"Cathy has dedicated his time and resources to many philanthropic causes, focusing on those related to the welfare of needy children. In 1984, Cathy established the WinShape Foundation, named for its mission to shape winners.

WinShape Foundation consists of WinShape Homes, WinShape Retreat, WinShape Marriage, WinShape Camps, WinShape, College Program, WinShape Wilderness and WinShape International. In 2010, the foundation provided roughly $18 million to fund the development of foster homes and summer camp.

Past donations from the WinShape Foundation include the funding of several college scholarships and marriage counseling programs. The foundation has awarded nearly 820 students of Berry College with scholarships of up to $32,000. WinShape has also donated an estimated $5 million to pro family groups since 2003. Approximately $2 million was given in 2009 and almost the same amount in 2010. s caused consternation for advocates that have denounced the chain over its support of groups opposed to same-sex marriage, and has led to instances of movements to refuse or remove Chick-fil-A restaurants and products from college and university campuses; Northeastern University's Student Senate voted on February 28, 2012 to cancel plans for an on-campus Chick-fil-A restaurant.

In 2008, Cathy's WinShape foundation became the winner of the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic leadership which awarded it $250,000 towards future philanthropy, as a result of its contributions to society. The prize was created to further ideals such as personal responsibility, resourcefulness, volunteerism, scholarship, individual freedom, faith in God, and helping people who help themselves. It honors living philanthropists who have shown exemplary leadership through their charitable giving, highlights the power of philanthropy to achieve positive change, and seeks to inspire others to support charities that achieve genuine results.

Additionally, Cathy has dedicated his time and resources towards welcoming homeless children into his home and has taught in Sunday school sessions. He has fostered children for over 30 years, and has since taken in nearly 200 foster children through WinShape Homes. WinShape Homes is a long-term foster care program that includes 11 foster homes throughout Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee.[7][8]

Cathy also has a Leadership Scholarship program for Chick-fil-A restaurant employees, which has awarded more than $23 million in $1,000 scholarships in the past 35 years.[8]
In recognition of his philanthropic efforts through WinShape, Cathy received the Children's Champion Award for Family and Community from the charitable organization Children's Hunger Fund in 2011.

Honors and memberships
......Cathy has received numerous honors, including membership in Omicron Delta Kappa (OΔK), the National Leadership Honor Society. He received OΔK's highest award, the Laurel Crowned Circle Award in 2009. He also received the Norman Vincent and Ruth Stafford Peale Humanitarian Award, the Horatio Alger Award, the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic Leadership, and the Boy Scouts of America Silver Buffalo Award. Cathy was inducted into the Junior Achievement U.S. Business Hall of Fame in 2003.......

S. Truett Cathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But, you must admit that although he is a wonderful man, he is a bigot.

Guest 07-31-2012 02:32 PM

How about typing no more blue on a green background. Can't read it and you are wasting lots of your time doing that. Pick another color.


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