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Guest 11-29-2015 08:11 AM

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Dear Guest: At our family gatherings we were expected to discuss politics and religion, never take it personally and respect the other person's view. However once the discussion was closed we continued on to enjoy one another company , to eat, to play double deck pinochle....
So my response to your comments is yes because i would address the issue and not degrade the other's person's point of view. a point counter point discussion is healthy and helpful. However in today's environment many have forgotten how to debate and they believe their argument is in name calling or insults.

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"a point counter point discussion is healthy and helpful." I really think that you should practice what you preach. First, you post your mission statement, and now this post.

You don't participate in the name calling, but what also don't do is take a "fair and balance" view of any subject. If people don't agree with you, you don't respond to them. If you don't think that this is the case, go back and see your posts.

By the way, you didn't respond to my post. It was someone else, and I have a good idea who it is.

Guest 11-29-2015 08:52 AM

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"a point counter point discussion is healthy and helpful." I really think that you should practice what you preach. First, you post your mission statement, and now this post.

You don't participate in the name calling, but what also don't do is take a "fair and balance" view of any subject. If people don't agree with you, you don't respond to them. If you don't think that this is the case, go back and see your posts.

By the way, you didn't respond to my post. It was someone else, and I have a good idea who it is.

Boo hooo!

He is probably the most civil poster on here, and yet you disparage him. Says a lot about you too.

Guest 11-29-2015 03:17 PM

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Trump has ridiculed Mexicans, women, made accusations about mosques, lied about seeing people jumping out of the World Trade Center, called Iowans stupid, lied about seeing muslims in New Jersey cheering the WTC falling, and now ridiculed a handicapped man by waving his arms wildly and making fun of his speech pattern.

Trump says he gets his foreign policy knowledge from watching television.

He is out of control. Even Fox News has backed off their earlier backing of Trump.

Jeb is a lot calmer, more knowledgable, and is electable. Trump's nomination would mean a victory for Hillary.

I agree with everything you said, and I really hope he gets the nomination. :wave:

Guest 11-30-2015 08:55 AM

It just never ceases to amaze me how every topic, conversation, discussion, whatever you want to call it posted here always goes back to bashing Obama. It seems to be an accepted art form, in The Villages, to totally disrespect the President. Freedom of speech is what they call it but it looks and sounds more like hate mongering which is what is causing the tearing apart of our great country.

Guest 11-30-2015 09:01 AM

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It just never ceases to amaze me how every topic, conversation, discussion, whatever you want to call it posted here always goes back to bashing Obama. It seems to be an accepted art form, in The Villages, to totally disrespect the President. Freedom of speech is what they call it but it looks and sounds more like hate mongering which is what is causing the tearing apart of our great country.

Let's see....it's a political forum, Obama is a politician, and it's about the presidential election. Nope, Obama has nothing to do with it. If Obama wasn't such a failure and a pathetic and divisive representative of half the people, there would be no "bashing." Obama insists on bashing me (Republican, and white and former police officer years ago) so I feel no empathy for him. You keep kissing his ring (or whatever) and I am sure you will get some of the crumbs left over from his "stash."

Guest 11-30-2015 09:06 AM

Trump is like a bull in a china shop. He gets attention.
Hilary is like the shoplifter that sneaks around breaking the law and blaming the owner for being wealthy when she gets caught.

Trump does not need the presidency but wants to help America.
Hilary needs the presidency because she wants to help herself.

Trump will say what the voter wants to hear to get them motivated for real change.
Hilary will say what the voter wants to buy their vote, even though she has no intention of following up on her promises.

Guest 11-30-2015 09:23 AM

Please vote for Trump.

Guest 11-30-2015 09:38 AM

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Trump is like a bull in a china shop. He gets attention.
Hilary is like the shoplifter that sneaks around breaking the law and blaming the owner for being wealthy when she gets caught.

Trump does not need the presidency but wants to help America.
Hilary needs the presidency because she wants to help herself.

Trump will say what the voter wants to hear to get them motivated for real change.
Hilary will say what the voter wants to buy their vote, even though she has no intention of following up on her promises.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...7d0_story.html


That does not seem all that fair to Secretary Clinton.

I have seen little real change from Donald Trump either as he seems to want to create the same kind of overblown Federal Government that President Barack Obama created through ObamaCare. Trump though highlights discrimination and fear above all else. I have not seen such hatred directed at groups of people for political gain from a very prominent politician in a very long time in the United States.

The Clintons are concerned about how history and the liberal media portray them so there will be checks-and-balances put on them. There was extensive scrutiny of President William Jefferson Clinton all thoroughout his Presidency.

We really do not have any idea exactly what Donald Trump will do as he is a show man as you say. He wants you to vote for him but what he will actually do in 2016 if elected is only speculation.

Guest 11-30-2015 09:45 AM

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My daughter lives in the New York area and it is common knowledge that in the Muslim neighborhoods Muslims were hear to be celebratory about learning of the strikes at the Twin Towers.

Is it really that hard to believe given the behavior of Black Lives Matter or the spoiled behavior of college students at Yale, Missouri, etc?

I don't believe Trump is out of control. I believe Trump is saying what many Americans believe and that is we are mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore. He has the power know how and money to make that happen. Mind you I am not a Trump supporter but one cannot deny the obvious.

There is an inner GOP struggle to discredit and destroy Trump and if GOP members do so they do so at the peril of all Republicans. It only works for the other side when GOP devours its own.

Trump is an alpha male and Bush a beta male and supporters believe it will take an alpha male to undo all of Obama's damage? I do agree that we need a strong and moral leader to carry us back to the nation we once were. I am still in the process of deciding.

I like Trump's take on the 2nd Amendment because he starts off with a very strong position and is the nature of politics by the time it all gets watered down we will have a law that continues to protect citizens right to own and bear arms. Remember that the 2nd Amendment is the key to the protection of the remainder of our freedoms

Having said all of that I agree with Thomas Sowell and wish Walker and Jindal both remained within the race. We needed more time with these candidates

Its fortunate that we have still have the likes of Rubio, Cruz, Trump, Fiorina, Christy,

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So why don't you support Trump? What do you have against him?

Guest 11-30-2015 10:00 AM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...7d0_story.html


That does not seem all that fair to Secretary Clinton.

I have seen little real change from Donald Trump either as he seems to want to create the same kind of overblown Federal Government that President Barack Obama created through ObamaCare. Trump though highlights discrimination and fear above all else. I have not seen such hatred directed at groups of people for political gain from a very prominent politician in a very long time in the United States.

The Clintons are concerned about how history and the liberal media portray them so there will be checks-and-balances put on them. There was extensive scrutiny of President William Jefferson Clinton all thoroughout his Presidency.

We really do not have any idea exactly what Donald Trump will do as he is a show man as you say. He wants you to vote for him but what he will actually do in 2016 if elected is only speculation.

We did not know what Obama would do either and look at that disaster and how messed up our country is now. Just the racial tension is bad enough, and he is instrumental in it's slide backward in time.

Guest 11-30-2015 10:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1152613)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...7d0_story.html


That does not seem all that fair to Secretary Clinton.

I have seen little real change from Donald Trump either as he seems to want to create the same kind of overblown Federal Government that President Barack Obama created through ObamaCare. Trump though highlights discrimination and fear above all else. I have not seen such hatred directed at groups of people for political gain from a very prominent politician in a very long time in the United States.

The Clintons are concerned about how history and the liberal media portray them so there will be checks-and-balances put on them. There was extensive scrutiny of President William Jefferson Clinton all thoroughout his Presidency.

We really do not have any idea exactly what Donald Trump will do as he is a show man as you say. He wants you to vote for him but what he will actually do in 2016 if elected is only speculation.

Sometimes the truth hurts. There is no "fair" in politics.

Guest 11-30-2015 10:27 AM

With the bar for presidential performance, in ANY category, set so low by Obama's incompetence and bungling, there is no place to go but up for any candidate that follows him.

Except for Clinton. She has already stated she supports Obama's incompetent agenda. She should scare the hell out of any thinking, warm blooded, sentient human being. She could go lower than the bar Obama has set!!!

Guest 11-30-2015 11:38 AM

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With the bar for presidential performance, in ANY category, set so low by Obama's incompetence and bungling, there is no place to go but up for any candidate that follows him.

Except for Clinton. She has already stated she supports Obama's incompetent agenda. She should scare the hell out of any thinking, warm blooded, sentient human being. She could go lower than the bar Obama has set!!!

Good point! And it would be a step back for women. Billary would not have any women working in the White House for fear that Willy would run rampant and embarrass her......if that was possible.

Guest 11-30-2015 12:55 PM

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Trump has ridiculed Mexicans, women, made accusations about mosques, lied about seeing people jumping out of the World Trade Center, called Iowans stupid, lied about seeing muslims in New Jersey cheering the WTC falling, and now ridiculed a handicapped man by waving his arms wildly and making fun of his speech pattern.

Trump says he gets his foreign policy knowledge from watching television.

He is out of control. Even Fox News has backed off their earlier backing of Trump.

Jeb is a lot calmer, more knowledgable, and is electable. Trump's nomination would mean a victory for Hillary.

If it wasn't for the media Obama would have no idea about what is going on in the country or his administration.

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Guest 12-03-2015 06:23 AM

This thread is about Trump. It seems like every thread gets twisted around by the Obama haters. Get a life kids.

Trump is an egotistical bully and clearly a racist. He even publicly mocks the disabled. He has no political experience. Can you imagine being in politics and not being political at least to some degree? He clearly is not a statesman or negotiator - he is aggressive and offensive. I can just picture him with his finger on the nuclear button. Scarey. Some people admire his business acumen. I guess they forgot about his many business failures - The Trump Shuttle - the luxury flight service that went out of business in 3 years, the Trump board game - sales were underwhelming, Trump magazine - that lasted a year and a half before folding, GoTrump.com a travel website that lasted all of one year, Trump Casinos in Atlantic city - lost close to $200 million, Trump Mortgage - another business failure after 2 years, Trump Vodka - never heard of it, and neither did anyone else. He had his start when he inherited his father's multi million business, which he eventually ran into the ground and only survived based on bailouts from the banks in 1990 which kept him from going bankrupt. Wow, this guy is such a winner.


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