Carrier and Ford are just dress rehearsals for Trump ( iesending up test balloons) . He and his staff are just fine tuning the process.

Nature abhors a vacuum and we see what has become of Detroit and its surrounding cities because of Democrats misguided policies.

I completely believe in the concept of competitive advantage and international trade but we have reached some adverse tipping points that need to be rounded out.

People either forget or intentionally ignore Trump's modus operandi. He is always going to claim the high ground that's what negotiators do. He is always going to be aggressive and be challenging .

Progressives will continue their misinformation fear mongering games because that is the only thing they are good at anymore.
Their open borders social justice policies have failed and failed miserably

Personal Best Regards:

Equality, diversity, affirmative action, quotas...ALL miserable FAILURES.

They're not like us.

Trump is taking credit for talking United Technology out of moving the entire Carrier plant to Mexico. About half the Carrier jobs will move to Mexico.

In return, United Technology will be getting some real sweet deas with the Department of Defense. You can bet that was part of Trump's dealing - but that is nothing new in government deals.

Also, special tax exemptions were made to stay in Indiana. why didn't Pence do those when he was governor of Indiana?

Trump is taking credit for saving jobs. Why not? It looks good and he is not backing out of all of his campaign promises. It is nothing that a smart businessman should not be doing. Keep it up and do good.

The government is NOT a business...it holds power over the citizens. The government shouldn't be making "deals" with corporations. Government has over stepped it's bounds.

He won't "do good", he'll do what he's told...yes, even Trump will have to obey.

They are definitely not like YOU.......:a20:

Carrier will be receiving (reports vary) between $700,000 and one million dollars per year for ten years in tax credits to keep this one plant in Indiana.

Gov Mike Pence is still governor of Indiana until his successor is sworn in. Too bad he doesn't have the authority to negotiate these tax deals in other states.

How many jobs would Trump create if he moved all his Trump lines to the US: Trump suits, Trump shirts, Trump cufflinks, Trump furniture, Trump ties?

How many jobs would he create if he stopped using Chinese steel and started using US steel in all of his new buildings?

Since he is stepping away from his company, the kids will have to answer these questions.

wouldn't matter if he did that you still will not support him will you?

6 Months Before Carrier Deal, Obama Mocked Trump, Said He Wouldn’t Save Manufacturing Jobs :ohdear:

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this admin never tried!!!




PS could somebody tell Obama we just had a tragedy in Gatlinburg Tennessee. We still haven't heard from him, but Trump called.

Nothing there to further his personal or public agenda....not racially charged!!

The president seems to be thinking about Trump dealing with all the trouble spots around the world.

Obama is ROAD kill. Retired On Active Duty. He is just vacationing in the White House, or wherever else he decides to slack off.

In other words, the big pile of crap Obama left him with.

Geee...sounds like most of the minorities I've had the displeasure to work with. Quotas suck.

You're right about a big pile of crap being left but conveniently ignored the source. Manufacturing declined steadily, deficient spending increased yearly, and we engaged in a long costly war we should not have during a Republican presidency. We now elected a cross between a democrat and republican who promised a whole lot of something for nothing. We are a superior people, are we not?

Trump and the right would have been screeching and howling...had Obama tried to tell him where he could have his stuff manufactured.

Frigging hypocrites. :ohdear:

I am sure your MINORITY bosses felt the same way about having to supervise you. Their effectiveness reports on you reflected your lack of intelligence and work product and kept you from attaining a higher position than that of the flunky for your MINORITY bosses.

The joke will be on Trump if/when he figures it out.

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The "Joke" will be departing the White House for good on January 20th.:clap2:

Excellent picture of the cockpit of the control center as designed and attempting to operate crony establishment.

Things that complex are easy to fix. Just mow the establishment the hell out of the way and get risd of anybody or anything that has no direct effect on the operation. Then watch the level of employment in most all government entities takse a nose dive.

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Naw, it's going to be on the sore losers that will hate it that their Harvard racist could not do in 8 years what Trump will probably accomplish in two. He's already doing better than Obie did when he was elected. Obie didn't even know how to use the oval office phone. "What's this button for?"

Oh yes CHI...the black man was adept with such complications, masterfully tweaking and adjusting here and there. BULLSH!T...

You REALLY think each newly elected president becomes the ultimate "boss" of the whole country...in essence the whole world? Are you kidding?

They get elected to be the "King and Queen" for 4 years. They talk, play golf, travel, meet royalty and dignitaries, have dinners, get entertained...and their ONLY job is to make the people WANT them to steal from us. They announce this program and that...costly for sure...to SOLVE this and that problem. A "problem" they made themselves.

Presidents are actors who convince us we need to take our medicine...eat our broccoli...pay the bills so they can skim/steal.

EVERYTHING get s done by someone else and only "needs approval" when approval is needed.

Trumps advisors are the same old republicans that ANY administration would have picked...My God...Romney? Gordon Gekko? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The system runs itself, presidents don't change it. Trump had harder decisions with his businesses than he'll have as president. The decisions are already made his job is to sell them to the people...like a good CEO can do.

Government incentives, otherwise known as "corporate welfare" saved the jobs in Indiana. I'm sure every CEO in America is salivating this morning at the thought of declaring that they also are going to move jobs out of the country so that they also can get this sweetheart deal. In Conservative America we are happy to give welfare to corporations, but resent having to provide it for the poor and hungry. Trump's original idea of how to deal with this problem was to enforce a huge tax on goods imported back into America from companies that export jobs. That seemed more fair and efficient to me.

Yep, you summed it up.



The problem of course, is that other countries will quickly reciprocate.

Tariff wars never end well....with the consumer paying the price.

they R investing 16 million the ripple effect in the state over 10 years is like 70 million.

However, Carrier has to meet certain criteria to get the tax credits.

It's not sweet hart deal if you look into it.

Moreover, Trump pulled it off by picking up the phone on Thanksgiving day and calling Carrier

all before being sworn in?????:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Obama sat on his hands for 8 years never made an attempt to save those jobs, HRC would have followed suit.

A tariff is still planed for imported goods, this also is having a big effect in Mexico.



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I believe Reagan used a similar tactic of taxation on goods from the Far East to protect Harley Davidson. Cheap rice burners were stealing the market.

BOTH sides...BOTH parties are BAD for America and the people...don't you get it? They screw half of us one time and the other half the other time. Corporate welfare is just as bad as social welfare. BOTH are slowly killing us.

Kick out the Mexicans and ALL the poor could have jobs...every one of them. There are 100 million of them here...THAT is why ALL the construction jobs are full of Mexicans.

Prop up a piece of crap in favor of real technology. Way to go politicians! You pay 3X what you should for that name. Like Apple, they hoodwinked you good. At least Apple products WORK. We always laughed about going riding with a bunch of Harley riders...better bring a truck! Somebody is going to break down.

Government doesn't belong in business...and business doesn't belong in government. But they ARE...big time.

SO, as well as being a racist and bigot, you are also Anti-American product. Aren't you just a bag of sh*t? :yuck:

You are such a miserable person, I am surprised that you have not had the courage to end it all.

I continue to believe this country is in desperate need of a balance budget amendment. When you give one group of voters a financial benefit, justified or not, politicians should have to look the rest of us in eyes and tell us why we are paying for it. That step is completely missing from our form of government. If America really wants change a forced balanced budget is the only path. I don't think you would have seen Hillary, Trump, or Bernie on TV at all last year. It would have been a different cast of characters with a different Senate and House. That would be real change.

Gramm–Rudman–Hollings Deficit Reduction Act of 1985

also known as:

Gramm–Rudman–Hollings Balanced Budget Act

And congress continues to violate it since the very beginning of it's being passed.

Our "leaders" are lying, psychopathic, crooks...that's the "Anti-American" part of me. I'd LOVE 50s America back. Norman Rockwell America. It's HERE, at least for a while longer in the villages. Help me keep it. Don't let it become polluted...diversified...it'll NEVER recover...nowhere EVER does.

Who is miserable? I'm just telling you the facts. I'm happy as a white man at a KKK meeting living here in whiteville...you're the one who is angry...listen to you rant...who is miserable?

Of course we need a balanced budget...we're $20 TRILLION in debt right now...$20,000,000,000,000 in the hole. We BORROW another $1 trillion each year. We're bankrupt, we're dead broke. We spend $600,000,000,000 a year on interest alone.

To add insult to injury, to ENSURE we never recover...the demographics are changing from white to Hispanic/black. The country is doomed. A 3rd world Mexico II within 30 years.

Of course they do...they don't follow anything they're supposed to follow. You don't follow rules very well when your job demands you don't follow rules.

Press secretary, when asked about Trump saving jobs,
, will talk to trump when he has saved jobs at 804 companies like the Obama administration has accomplished.

The jobs report for Nov came out today and the unemployment rate was down to 4.6%, the lowest it has been since 2007.

Now let's hear that the Bureau of Labor Statistics is some commie organization, never to be trusted.

BoLS shows there to be over 14 million working age still not in the work force today that there was in 2008. Want to talk about true unemployment?

Do you want to tell me how many are on food stamps...STILL?
Do you want to tell me how many are at poverty level...STILL?

You might want take a minute to look behind the curtain once in a while. Go to the BOL site.

They call it "The bureau of LYING statistics" for a reason. They seasonally "adjust" the numbers, they "adjust" for people leaving the workforce, and the whole system of determining unemployment...CALLING 60,000 households?...is fraud waiting to happen. I don't believe them for a minute.

I agree with Palin?!
 

One of the very few times I can ever recall agreeing with The Ditz. :22yikes:


Sarah Palin: Trump's Carrier deal is 'crony capitalism' - POLITICO

Sure, but I think he wanted to set the tone & message to stop the business from moving out.

He did show he can get things done

Isn't it amazing how the left complained about big business moving overseas to avoid paying taxes and now complain because big business might be forced to stay here? But, it was OK for Obama to bail out GM and then have them turn around and move overseas. It was OK for Obama to exempt unions from Obamacare. It was OK for Obama to cause the loss of thousands of jobs when he forced dealerships to close. Oh, you liberals forgot about that issue? Yes, it was in his first term so it is better to sweep it under the carpet, right?

Too bad for you on the left that your party cheated in the elections and still LOST! We finally had a candidate that knew how to get down in the gutter with the left and fight their style. AND HE WON! Live with it......or not. Who cares?