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Rockyrd 01-07-2017 11:18 AM

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I hope that good men like Mattis will try to keep him honest. I just hope Mattis stays. He looks like a thoughtful and ethical man and a great military mind. Nothing like George Patton. Patton was more ego. Seems to be a big hero of Trumpff.

Trump is a smart man. Trump COULD offer good ideas.

However, he never ever should be President for so many reason I have tried to detail with validation.

Point here is...we have never had anyone in the White House with such an accredited history of outrageous lying and deceit. The folks who worship at his feet will defend even lying and deceit, in the name of something that I do not understand. Most folks would not tolerate his behavior from co workers, friend, golf busies or spouses, yet they accept it from this person. It is a problem

hypocritehunter 01-07-2017 12:34 PM

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Trump is a smart man. Trump COULD offer good ideas.

However, he never ever should be President for so many reason I have tried to detail with validation.

Point here is...we have never had anyone in the White House with such an accredited history of outrageous lying and deceit. The folks who worship at his feet will defend even lying and deceit, in the name of something that I do not understand. Most folks would not tolerate his behavior from co workers, friend, golf busies or spouses, yet they accept it from this person. It is a problem

What I honestly don't understand is why do people constantly give him a pass on such ridiculous/dangerous behavior? The only conclusion I can think of is Trumpsters just don't want to admit they've been duped. It's my guess that in a year or two you won't find many people who will admit they voted for Trump. Kind of like at the end of Bush's Presidency.

dirtbanker 01-07-2017 12:38 PM

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Trump is a smart man. Trump COULD offer good ideas.

However, he never ever should be President for so many reason I have tried to detail with validation.

Point here is...we have never had anyone in the White House with such an accredited history of outrageous lying and deceit. The folks who worship at his feet will defend even lying and deceit, in the name of something that I do not understand. Most folks would not tolerate his behavior from co workers, friend, golf busies or spouses, yet they accept it from this person. It is a problem

You seem to have forgotten all the lies, deceit, and corruption in Slick Willy's career...or COUNTLESS other politicians!

Your so upset a career Republican was not nominated, too old and confused to realize some of those hard lines do not appeal to majority of today's Republican voters. So you just keep whining.

You have nothing but negative posts for Trump, to the point it blurs your vision...your candidate did not get elected, but MOST of your party's views are intact. Jan and (unt have lost the election on all counts...I almost expect the non stop whining from them.



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dirtbanker 01-07-2017 12:52 PM

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It is....

MDLNB

Consistently abusive language, consistently sans any facts or thoughts.

No, that is not accurate. There are several in here that are talking **** to you, me included.

I believe a lot of us are tired of wearing gloves dealing with your posts. I suggested that you would do something less self destructive, than posting here, to waste away your days, but you are unwilling to take any advice from others most likely only trying to help your sorry a$$.

I demonstrated how you were being hypocritical with the term wackadoodle, but you are unable to admit that you were being hypocritical.

So enjoy this forum and all it brings and without requests for special treatment!

By the way tapatalk is a free app, I am sure someone at the library can show you how to load it on your obamma phone...

Fricken 52%er...

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Taltarzac725 01-07-2017 01:25 PM

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It is....

MDLNB

Consistently abusive language, consistently sans any facts or thoughts.

That does not sound like him. I had a prime suspect in mind whom I have complained about in the TOTV Regular sections. Just once though that I remember complaining about him.

Just would like someone at Tapatalk to quote some of these posts so we can see who is saying what.

And I am not a huge fan of Barack Obama and even much less so than Joe Biden. Good riddance to Biden. He is part of what is very wrong with DC. A Cheshire Cat as Clint Eastwood pointed out in 2012. A wind bag blowing with whatever is popular in DC so he can keep on playing the political game. Nor am I a big fan of Bill nor Hillary Clinton. But I sure like both far more than what I have seen of Donald J. Trump so far.

jebartle 01-07-2017 01:35 PM

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CNN and the Washington Post? Wow, now that is some real reporting on their part...........Not!

Who cares? It has all been blown out of proportion and distorted. Is that a surprise?

And it was NOT as the OP states(lies) where Trump fights with Mattis. It was Mattis upset with the transition team, not Trump. Typical libtard making up more lies because she is still crying about her great loss.

Next issue.............

typical REPUBLICAN, blame on media and liberals, this will never end because no one wants to admit they were wrong ESPECIALLY Trump!

Rockyrd 01-07-2017 01:39 PM

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You seem to have forgotten all the lies, deceit, and corruption in Slick Willy's career...or COUNTLESS other politicians!

Your so upset a career Republican was not nominated, too old and confused to realize some of those hard lines do not appeal to majority of today's Republican voters. So you just keep whining.

You have nothing but negative posts for Trump, to the point it blurs your vision...your candidate did not get elected, but MOST of your party's views are intact. Jan and (unt have lost the election on all counts...I almost expect the non stop whining from them.



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Oh, I was not aware he was still in office, and MY candidate didn't even get nominated, and if you check my history on this forum going back at least 9/10 years (Bucco and Rags123)you will find I was pretty much detested because of my words anti Obama and Clinton. Political forum actually began, I think, in 2007..prior to that all posts were on main board.

I am now an independent, and my Republican Party always stood for fiscal responsibility and spoke of character but no longer. It appears that neither matter any longer.

You try to sound informed, but refusing to acknowledge the legion of lies from Trump, and all easily verified, casts doubt in exactly what you do know.

My vision is surely not blurred. Fact is, as much as I thought I knew about Trump, I spent countless hours of reading about him. I shared most of them on here, I have shown with HIS OWN WIRDS, how he almost daily just makes things up.

I said in here a few times that I hoped he realized the responsibility, but he is showing himself to be exactly what I and others thought....a man who has never ever done one single thing for his country, who does not comprehend what that means, continues to lie, and remarkably is showing how he really feels about this country. And, even with all of that, I would stomach his lack of morals if I could even get some bit of reassurance that his lack of ability to verbally attack Russia or Putin...both crimals and criminal state...but easily attacks our country, BUT he does not trust Americans enough to be transparent.

I go by factual records..,his in the past and present.

I am not a democrat, cannot stand Clinton, have been outspoken in my opposition to Obama policies on this forum, so your impish little remarks hold no water.whatsoever. You will find no posts from me, or actually many at all, about this election..EXCEPT POSTERS WHO WORSHIP AT TRUMPS FEET AND ACCEPT WHAT HE SAYS NO MATTER HOW UNTRUE.

Taltarzac725 01-07-2017 01:53 PM

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Oh, I was not aware he was still in office, and MY candidate didn't even get nominated, and if you check my history on this forum going back at least 17 years (Bucco and Rags123)you will find I was pretty much detested because of my words anti Obama and Clinton.

I am now an independent, and my Republican Party always stood for fiscal responsibility and spoke of character but no longer. It appears that neither matter any longer.

You try to sound informed, but refusing to acknowledge the legion of lies from Trump, and all easily verified, casts doubt in exactly what you do know.

My vision is surely not blurred. Fact is, as much as I thought I knew about Trump, I spent countless hours of reading about him. I shared most of them on here, I have shown with HIS IWN WIRDS, how he almost daily just makes things up.

I said in here a few times that I hoped he realized the responsibility, but he is showing himself to be exactly what I and others thought....a man who has never ever done one single thing for his country, who does not comprehend what that means, continues to lie, and remarkably is showing how he really feels about this country. And, even with all of that, I would stomach his lack of morals if I could even get some bit of reassurance that his lack of ability to verbally attack Russia or Putin...both crimals and criminal state...but easily attacks our country, BUT he does not trust Americans enough to be transparent.

I go by factual records..,his in the past and present.

I am not a democrat, cannot stand Clinton, have been outspoken in my opposition to Obama policies on this forum, so your impish little remarks hold no water.whatsoever. You will find no posts from me, or actually many at all, about this election..EXCEPT POSTERS WHO WORSHIP AT TRUMPS FEET AND ACCEPT WHAT HE SAYS NO MATTER HOW UNTRUE.

I actually voted for Bush twice instead of for Al Gore and his running mates because of how much I disliked William Jefferson Clinton and his lying. But Donald John Trump lies much more frequently and just expects us to look the other way. And I had a hard time voting for anyone in 2012. And I am a progressive liberal.

Taltarzac725 01-07-2017 02:11 PM

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No, that is not accurate. There are several in here that are talking **** to you, me included.

I believe a lot of us are tired of wearing gloves dealing with your posts. I suggested that you would do something less self destructive, than posting here, to waste away your days, but you are unwilling to take any advice from others most likely only trying to help your sorry a$$.

I demonstrated how you were being hypocritical with the term wackadoodle, but you are unable to admit that you were being hypocritical.

So enjoy this forum and all it brings and without requests for special treatment!

By the way tapatalk is a free app, I am sure someone at the library can show you how to load it on your obamma phone...

Fricken 52%er...

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Still a very nasty post from someone I would like to get the identity of in some way.

Who does this man think he is? How about actually talking about the issues rather than making these mean spirited and often false personal attacks. I know your idol Donald John Trump basically trolled his way into the White House-- with a vast amount of help from Putin and his minions-- but that does not work where TV ratings are not involved. Trump is partly the endgame of the media giving him so much air time so they could charge more ads so we would buy more stuff. Now we have the stuff but we also have a man in Donald Trump who could easily get us into a Third Word War. Maybe Mattis has the wisdom to control Donald John Trump. Let's just hope. Or, maybe Ivanka Trump, who actually seems to have some moral center to her personality.

rubicon 01-07-2017 02:29 PM

" Ah that ain't nothing
 
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Mattis, Trump team clashed over Pentagon appointment - CNNPolitics.com

You have a hot headed blow hard narcissist facing off with an introspective intellectual who actually knows what he is talking about.

Dear OP:

Returning to the topic. I view this story in the light of the " Little Rascals" familiar response...you recall where one kid believes he has made a pronouncement of major proportions and another kid with a sweeping of the hand downward toward the ground says" ah that ain't nothing" :D

What respectable journalist would believe this is a worth while story line? My God this sort of prattle goes on insouciantly in Washington

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 01-07-2017 02:35 PM

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Dear OP:

Returning to the topic. I view this story in the light of the " Little Rascals" familiar response...you recall where one kid believes he has made a pronouncement of major proportions and another kid with a sweeping of the hand downward toward the ground says" ah that ain't nothing" :D

What respectable journalist would believe this is a worth while story line? My God this sort of prattle goes on insouciantly in Washington

Personal Best Regards:

Man, Rubicon, you have one excuse or another to try and reflect how the media puts words in these guys mouth.

Tell you why it is a good story. It us chapter one of many more to come.

Do you never get at least uneasy with 100% predictability on making up an excuse for this person ? And you NEVER defend with facts...you simply pontificate as if YOU saying it makes it so. Calling out as liars, Barbara Starr and Washington Post by simply dismissing them. You really feel pretty good about yourself.

rubicon 01-07-2017 03:01 PM

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Man, Rubicon, you have one excuse or another to try and reflect how the media puts words in these guys mouth.

Tell you why it is a good story. It us chapter one of many more to come.

Do you never get at least uneasy with 100% predictability on making up an excuse for this person ? And you NEVER defend with facts...you simply pontificate as if YOU saying it makes it so. Calling out as liars, Barbara Starr and Washington Post by simply dismissing them. You really feel pretty good about yourself.

I thought we were discussing the CNN news piece? You actually believe this is a news worthy story? This piece is something you would expect to hear on The View or The Talk. Its tabloid and the America people have been exposed for so long to it that they really believe shows like TMZ and The Insider, The View, etc are legitimate news agencies. Geezzz.

Yes I can still differentiate between a news story and prattle ands so yes I do really feel good about myself

Aim your sights a little higher will ya

Personal Best Regards:

dirtbanker 01-07-2017 03:33 PM

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Oh, I was not aware he was still in office, and MY candidate didn't even get nominated, and if you check my history on this forum going back at least 9/10 years (Bucco and Rags123)you will find I was pretty much detested because of my words anti Obama and Clinton. Political forum actually began, I think, in 2007..prior to that all posts were on main board.

I am now an independent, and my Republican Party always stood for fiscal responsibility and spoke of character but no longer. It appears that neither matter any longer.

You try to sound informed, but refusing to acknowledge the legion of lies from Trump, and all easily verified, casts doubt in exactly what you do know.

My vision is surely not blurred. Fact is, as much as I thought I knew about Trump, I spent countless hours of reading about him. I shared most of them on here, I have shown with HIS OWN WIRDS, how he almost daily just makes things up.

I said in here a few times that I hoped he realized the responsibility, but he is showing himself to be exactly what I and others thought....a man who has never ever done one single thing for his country, who does not comprehend what that means, continues to lie, and remarkably is showing how he really feels about this country. And, even with all of that, I would stomach his lack of morals if I could even get some bit of reassurance that his lack of ability to verbally attack Russia or Putin...both crimals and criminal state...but easily attacks our country, BUT he does not trust Americans enough to be transparent.

I go by factual records..,his in the past and present.

I am not a democrat, cannot stand Clinton, have been outspoken in my opposition to Obama policies on this forum, so your impish little remarks hold no water.whatsoever. You will find no posts from me, or actually many at all, about this election..EXCEPT POSTERS WHO WORSHIP AT TRUMPS FEET AND ACCEPT WHAT HE SAYS NO MATTER HOW UNTRUE.

Hey Rockface, Bucco, Rags123, and whoever else lives in that head of yours...

Your post is long and whining, but the gist of it was summarized towards the end of the first sentence - Your candidate didn't even get nominated.

You could have just stopped there as that should give you some bearing on where you stand in today's world - not with the majority. I suspect that was already realized and contributed to your changing to an independent, a good place for you and your outdated beliefs, as they only garnered about 6% of the votes, definitely not a factor in this or any other election.

If you believe independents are fiscally responsible how do you explain Stien wasting millions on a ridiculous recount effort?? Thank goodness she wasted that money as it only added vindication to Trumps win.

You want to whine about tax return, hacking, grabbing pussy, and numerous drama fueled issues:

I don't really give a ratsass that a private entity (the DNC) was hacked. I am glad those truths were brought to light. I notice your not interested in talking about how Obamma can justify using the resources of 17 intelligence agencies to investigate hacking of a private entity...

Trumps tax return, I never looked at any other candidates tax return even if they offered them - nothing to see that is going to tell me how they are going to perform running a government office. I notice your not interested in talking about what Stien has done with the left over money from her ballot recount efforts...

Trumps language in which he refers to grabbing women by the pussy - this is really a big deal to you, but not to me or the rest of the people that voted for Trump. I can identify with that type of language and worst. I have male childhood friends and we have joked in that manner for the last 43 years. All of us have been married for a long time (30+ years), we all treat our wives and other women with respect (all our wives are bright ladies that could easily do fine without a husband), we just like to joke in that manner when we are "just the guys".

I don't idolize Trump, but I am going to give him the opportunity to prove my vote was not wasted. It suck's for you; as all you want to do is whine for the next 4 years after whining for the last 8 years...I guess you are a serial whiner!

Taltarzac725 01-07-2017 03:54 PM

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Dear OP:

Returning to the topic. I view this story in the light of the " Little Rascals" familiar response...you recall where one kid believes he has made a pronouncement of major proportions and another kid with a sweeping of the hand downward toward the ground says" ah that ain't nothing" :D

What respectable journalist would believe this is a worth while story line? My God this sort of prattle goes on insouciantly in Washington

Personal Best Regards:

Actually how Trump deals with one off his best picks in his potential Administration is a big deal especially when the bickering in the Trump Camp-- which I assume Trump controls to some extent as he is known to fire people in it rather quickly if he does not like what they do or say-- involves Trump's other staff choices when these are pointed out by one of the most respected men at the Pentagon. This is Mattis.

If Mattis resigns because of this we are all in big trouble.

Rockyrd 01-07-2017 04:11 PM

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Actually how Trump deals with one off his best picks in his potential Administration is a big deal especially when the bickering in the Trump Camp-- which I assume Trump controls to some extent as he is known to fire people in it rather quickly if he does not like what they do or say-- involves Trump's other staff choices when these are pointed out by one of the most respected men at the Pentagon. This is Mattis.

If Mattis resigns because of this we are all in big trouble.

It IS despite the moaning by some, important...the entire process is being threatened...

"The Office of Government Ethics is raising alarm over the pace of confirmation hearings for President-elect Donald Trump's nominees, saying Saturday that they have yet to receive required financial disclosures for some picks set to come before Congress next week."

Ethics Office Warns Confirmations For Donald Trump's Nominees Are Moving Too Fast : NPR

Federal Ethics Office Says Some Trump Nominees Haven’t Completed Financial Disclosure Before Hearings - WSJ

"A top ethics official warned Saturday that plans to confirm Donald J. Trump’s top Cabinet choices before background examinations are complete are unprecedented and have overwhelmed government investigators responsible for the reviews."

Ethics official warns against confirmations before reviews are complete - The Washington Post

It is a game because they know how many of these have SERIOUS BACKGROUND ISSUES.

Yep...Trump the American hero for sure....for him, it is Celebrity Apprentice on steroids.


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