Your hero reagan started it all, now live with it.

No it is not.
The fact of the matter is Mexico has one of the cheapest labor rates in the world. So the people who have the jobs live their every day lives much as the rest of the world.....home....eat...sleep...wake....eat....wor k....eat....home....repeat.

Advantages are obvious geographic wise.

I didn't say it was hard. I said it was a stupid idea. You sound like you have some street smarts. Would you let a 12 foot wall stop you if you wanted to get to the other side? Think about it for a sec. Off the top of your head how many ways can you come up with to defeat a $15 billion wall?

We need border security but it is not "the wall" or nothing. If your family was across a border and you wanted to join them what would stop you? Answer that and you are a little closer to finding the answer to border security.

[QUOTE=Guest;1200596. Would you let a 12 foot wall stop you if you wanted to get to the other side? .[/QUOTE]
I thought it was closer to 50 ft high. You can be country road smart to that's a bit different.

corrected statement

Funny how this thread has been hijacked to discuss size and effectiveness of a wall or not.

Isn't the issue, objective, intent to get control of the border?
Yes it is!

And the wall is just one element of that control and enforcement.

And for those who can get on the other side of what ever is put in front of them;
how well do you think you would fare getting into North Korea/ Russia/Mexico?

You are clueless

More proof a good picture of her is impossible.

On Wednesday, a group of Republican national security community members, including former government officials, blasted the idea.

"Controlling our border and preventing illegal immigration is a serious issue, but his insistence that Mexico will fund a wall on the southern border inflames unhelpful passions, and rests on an utter misreading of, and contempt for, our southern neighbor," they wrote in an open letter.

It's always just a matter of finding the experts on-line and ignoring the self-proclaimed TOTV experts.

This is not cronyism as some claim but actually investigating Donald Trump's many impractical ideas.

I suggest that Mr Trump discuss the southern wall proposal with Mr Putin. The Soviet Union has experience in building walls to keep people in their country. Specifically, the Berlin wall was built to keep people from pursuing a better life in West Berlin. It, however, also inflamed unhelpful passion and resulted in Mr Reagan asking them to tear down that wall. Who in the future will want the USA to tear down that wall with Mexico?

And no one has yet explained how it is that they feel it to be impractical. Building the wall is simple. Negotiating for Mexico to pay for it, may be something a business expert may be able to accomplish. What was practical about flying to the moon? Now, it's history. Someday, the great Trump wall will be history. Some countries have enforced borders. Some don't. We have found out how much our porous border has cost us. I don't care who pays for the wall, I believe it to be a good idea. Will it keep ALL illegals out? Nope, but it will slow the flow. It will also make it easier for less border patrol to enforce the illegal invasion.

You can't build the wall without improving the roads. One of the problems with business moving to Mexico is the existing gates slow everything down trying to bring manufactured products into the US and the roads are poor.
Between the new roads and improved additional gates US businesses considering Mexico will also be motivated to encourage the wall.
With more manufacturing jobs in Mexico why sneak over to pick grapes.

Why pick grapes when they can get free schools, free health care, vote for felons, free housing, food stamps....just to name a few.

They don wan no stinkin' grapes!

Sounds like you are misinformed.

For example, illegal immigrants contribute a net $12 billion per year with no receipt of future benefits. That has worked out to $100 billion over the last 10 years. They are helping fund your retirement. Please do more research.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf

Two decades after the fall of communism, 35 per cent of the household wealth in Russia belongs to just 110 billionaires

That cannot be compared to us. " ‘The situation in Russia has no parallel’ says Anthony Shorrocks of Global Economic Perspectives, an author of the report. ‘If you look at how Russians have made their money and the sort of political ties that seem to be necessary to maintain it, there are just very few places where the situation is similar.’


Read more: 35 per cent of the household wealth in Russia belongs to just 110 billionaires | Daily Mail Online
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Your point is:

1. Communism was good for Russia?

2. The 110 billionaires can help fund the wall?

3. That we can learn from them to keep from slowly equaling their income inequality?

Immigration statements | PolitiFact

Look at the fact checkers. And these people are not biased as Donald Trump claims. He is just a pathological liar.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...gration-40-ye/

An important one of these.

Stop hiring illegals. They won't come.

Talk about being informed and spewing delerious BS.

Since you are so well informed maybe you could present to us a list of all the freebies illegals are entitled to when they walk across the border.

THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE POST!!!!

thank-you

Illegal Aliens are Criminals. Anyone hiring them is a criminal. Liberals that want to look the other way, are criminals. Period!

Donald Trump's wall is doable.
On the other hand, Free College is a pipe dream. It ain't gonna happen.
The only thing that Hillary has promised, is women's rights. Right's that they already have. They get the same pay for the same job. They may not get the same job 100% of the time, but that might be because they are not physically able. Not because they are being discriminated upon. Why would anyone feel that a secretary (office manager) should get paid as much as the executive? Why should a nurse get paid as much as the surgeon? I have had female supervisors that got paid a lot more than me. I didn't cry about it. They deserved it. Does a Captain in the service get paid more or less by gender? So, Hillary's promise is much worst than Trump's.

Hillary has promised NOTHING else. Although she has promises to spend more money. And she has promised to continue Obama's agenda. What makes her think that she can do what Obama couldn't?

That is the subject of the post.
I have not read anyone in construction, engineering or borderline state governor says it's doable.
Show me the proof.

Show you proof? What are you, some kind of child? Of course it's possible. They build harder things than walls. Highways, bridges, Twin Towers, etc. The wall is a piece of cake. Are you retarded or just parroting liberal talking points. A wall is one of the easiest of construction projects. You probably didn't attend school when they had American history, or you would recall how difficult it was to build a railroad in this country. Mountains to go over or through. Bridges to build. Indians to contend with. The Trump wall will be a piece of cake. As long as the union labor is not involved. :icon_wink:

If you had proof, a link, a statement from an expert you would have presented it. I'll help you get started.
"As of 2012, the fence and fence-related costs totaled about $6 billion. A 2009 Government Accountability Office report said that on average, the cost had run between $1 million and $3.9 million per mile of fence, depending on things like "type of fencing, topography, materials used, land acquisition costs, and labor costs."

A fence is far easier and fair less expensive to build?

Why a fence? Do it right and build a wall, a big wall. But, don't let the gov be in charge of it. It would cost too much. I'll leave retirement right now, if you give me 3 million bucks per mile for fencing.

That's quite a good offer for fencing. How much for a 50 ft high wall?

With a 50 ft wall, all you're doing is building a five story building with no windows in it, about how many miles long? The hardest part would be digging the footings. No windows, no plumbing required. I'd throw in some broken glass to make it pretty and assist in keeping hands off of it.

You sound qualified.
The type of ground doesn't matter?

How much would you charge per mile for a concrete wall?