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Guest 03-10-2016 04:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1196781)
So, let's make this clear as glass. There are some that do not want to enforce Constitutional law, and others that do. Laws means something to some folks and nothing to others. Deporting criminals (illegals) is too hard, so therefore it shouldn't be attempted. Because if you can't get them all, why bother, right? So, even though other presidents have deported illegals, we shouldn't attempt it, even though we have improved technology. Ok, I have it.

Now, one more question for anyone what might like a challenge. Why do we allow employers a pass when they hire illegals? They are breaking the law. Why do certain states provide drivers licenses to illegals? They are breaking the law. Am I wrong in assuming that there is a certain class of (NON) citizens that are allowed benefits that an American born citizen does not? I would never hire someone that told me that some task was too hard/difficult.

So, Trump who has built many towering buildings says he can build a wall around the border, and who is it that says he can't? Given the money, I could build a border wall.

What happened to the "CAN DO" attitude of old America?

Who says that he can't build a wall along the Southern border with Mexico? Since we have people here that correct every minor point, I assume that you meant the Mexican border. A fence around the entire country plus Alaska, and Hawaii would be a bit much, but it is something to think about.

The answer to your question is very easy. It is the Democrats in Senate. If he isn't elected president, will he do it on his own? He can charge people for looking at his beautiful wall. Thereby, he will get his money back. It is not like any of his business ventures have ever gone bankrupt.

What happened to America's can do attitude? Mr. Filibuster, Mitch McConnell! He made sure nothing got done. It worked so well that the Democrats are now following his shining example of how to stop everything. CAN DO! Well that has turned into BLEEP YOU!

Guest 03-11-2016 01:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1196925)
Who says that he can't build a wall along the Southern border with Mexico? Since we have people here that correct every minor point, I assume that you meant the Mexican border. A fence around the entire country plus Alaska, and Hawaii would be a bit much, but it is something to think about.

The answer to your question is very easy. It is the Democrats in Senate. If he isn't elected president, will he do it on his own? He can charge people for looking at his beautiful wall. Thereby, he will get his money back. It is not like any of his business ventures have ever gone bankrupt.

What happened to America's can do attitude? Mr. Filibuster, Mitch McConnell! He made sure nothing got done. It worked so well that the Democrats are now following his shining example of how to stop everything. CAN DO! Well that has turned into BLEEP YOU!

BS, the Democrats had a filibuster proof congress for two years and didn't get **** done! Aren't you liberals tired of whining and blaming everyone else. If it's not Bush, then it's congress. Give it a break and grow a pair. Take some responsibility for your failures.

Guest 03-11-2016 02:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197241)
BS, the Democrats had a filibuster proof congress for two years and didn't get **** done! Aren't you liberals tired of whining and blaming everyone else. If it's not Bush, then it's congress. Give it a break and grow a pair. Take some responsibility for your failures.

They, like their president have done nothing. They will be just as happy as the rest of us come January 2017.

Unless the are totally skull numb and try to get the feloneous liar elected. Then they will think the last 8 years were better by almost any measure.

Such a pity the choices they do not have after 8 years of pennance!

Guest 03-17-2016 10:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1196220)
Simple solutions are for the simple minded. To quote General Patton, "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."

If the Republicans want a wall, they are going to have to compromise on the illegal immigrants already here. The Democrats in the Senate will filibuster any bill that only is a wall, and deport everyone not here legally. Trump can beat his chest all he wants on the campaign trail. If he is elected president, God save us, he has to compromise, a word he doesn't have in his head, with people that don't agree with him, and have the power to stop him.

Trump is nothing, but noise, and funny faces.

There are not hoards of illegals coming across the southern border. The number of illegals hasn't changed much in past seven plus years. Can this statement be proven? No. But can the statement that hoards are coming across be proven? No. That statement is pure speculation. It depends on, which side of the wall, you are standing on, and who are listening to.

Trump wants to build a $15 billion wall that can be defeated by a $10 shovel or a $75 extension ladder from Casa Depot. People have been scaling walls since the middle ages. Gen Patton was right.

Guest 03-18-2016 12:44 AM

$4 billion a year given to illegals filing tax returns with 6-10 phony dependents.

Guest 03-18-2016 08:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200216)
Trump wants to build a $15 billion wall that can be defeated by a $10 shovel or a $75 extension ladder from Casa Depot. People have been scaling walls since the middle ages. Gen Patton was right.

Yes, forget because a libtard says it's too hard. Forget it because someone might be able to dig under it or climb over it. Make marijuana legal because it's too hard to enforce the law. Make everything easier so that the elite can feel better about being lazy and not getting anything done, and live will be easier if we don't have to enforce the law. Let criminals that invade our country have citizenship rights because it is easier. Let them have drivers licenses because they are already breaking the law and we want to make them legal to lower the crime stats.

Hey, since a wall won't work, why don't you leave your home unlocked because a burglar will just break in easily anyway. You libtards are pathetic losers and could not even exist if not for the charity of conservatives. You liberals should be grateful for the services of conservatives because if not for us, there would be a bounty on your heads and you would have to learn a foreign language.

Guest 03-18-2016 09:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200216)
Trump wants to build a $15 billion wall that can be defeated by a $10 shovel or a $75 extension ladder from Casa Depot. People have been scaling walls since the middle ages. Gen Patton was right.

Have you seen the plans?


This is one engineer's estimate based on the information from Trump.


Foundation: 6 feet deep, 18 inch radius = 42.4 cubic feet
Column: 4 square feet area by 30 feet tall = 120 cubic feet
Wall panels: 25 feet tall by 10 feet long by 8 inches thick = 166.7 cubic feet
Total concrete per 10-foot segment = 329.1 cubic feet
1,954 miles = 10,300,00 feet = 1,030,000 segments (10-feet long each)
1,030,000 segments * 329.1 cubic feet per segment = 339,000,000 cubic feet = 12,555,000 cubic yards. (The cubic yard is the standard unit of measure of concrete volume in the United States.)

Since this was drawn up Trump raised it another 10 feet. I'm guessing the foundation would be deeper too.

I guess if a ladder is big enough and there is one on each side or if you start digging and have plenty of time then I guess the wall won't accomplish what has been suggested.

Guest 03-18-2016 09:29 AM

Ammo is a lot cheaper. Just put some snipers on the border and give them the green light to shoot any invaders. You won't even have to pay wages for the work. All volunteers. No problem with animal rights groups and hunters either. It's a win-win situation.

Guest 03-18-2016 09:55 AM

If they do build the wall they will need to build roads. One of the biggest reasons business moves to Mexico is that they don't need to deal with ports. They are our neighbors. One of the biggest problems is that there are not enough roads and gates. What if the wall and the new roads solves that problem and more business moves to Mexico? They may even pay for the wall if it's good for business.

I'll bet Trump figured that out a long time ago.

Do you see how they manufacture in China? Everyone lives together at the factory site. That's cheaper than robots for them. Is that how they manufacture in Mexico?

Guest 03-18-2016 10:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1196153)
The cost of the wall is not an issue in the overall scheme of money being spent.

The issue is for the sake of national security, the boarder needs to be closed and secured.

How can it be stated any more simply.

Maybe if the illegals were allowed to set up tents on lawn spaces in TV some might finally be inspired to do something about it. And I do not mean just the common area I mean the green space around the homes as well.

With no investment in the issue it is all too easy for too many to either do nothing or to claim it is not that big of a problem.

The border needs to be closed and secured.

Stand and be counted!

Are you going to put a wall around the whole country, they will use boats to get into the east and west coast areas and will also come across the Canadian border. So you better buy a lot of wire and concrete.

Guest 03-18-2016 10:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200295)
Yes, forget because a libtard says it's too hard. Forget it because someone might be able to dig under it or climb over it. Make marijuana legal because it's too hard to enforce the law. Make everything easier so that the elite can feel better about being lazy and not getting anything done, and live will be easier if we don't have to enforce the law. Let criminals that invade our country have citizenship rights because it is easier. Let them have drivers licenses because they are already breaking the law and we want to make them legal to lower the crime stats.

Hey, since a wall won't work, why don't you leave your home unlocked because a burglar will just break in easily anyway. You libtards are pathetic losers and could not even exist if not for the charity of conservatives. You liberals should be grateful for the services of conservatives because if not for us, there would be a bounty on your heads and you would have to learn a foreign language.

Your hero reagan started it all, now live with it.

Guest 03-18-2016 10:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200334)
If they do build the wall they will need to build roads. One of the biggest reasons business moves to Mexico is that they don't need to deal with ports. They are our neighbors. One of the biggest problems is that there are not enough roads and gates. What if the wall and the new roads solves that problem and more business moves to Mexico? They may even pay for the wall if it's good for business.

I'll bet Trump figured that out a long time ago.

Do you see how they manufacture in China? Everyone lives together at the factory site. That's cheaper than robots for them. Is that how they manufacture in Mexico?

No it is not.
The fact of the matter is Mexico has one of the cheapest labor rates in the world. So the people who have the jobs live their every day lives much as the rest of the world.....home....eat...sleep...wake....eat....wor k....eat....home....repeat.

Advantages are obvious geographic wise.

Guest 03-18-2016 06:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200295)
Yes, forget because a libtard says it's too hard. Forget it because someone might be able to dig under it or climb over it. Make marijuana legal because it's too hard to enforce the law. Make everything easier so that the elite can feel better about being lazy and not getting anything done, and live will be easier if we don't have to enforce the law. Let criminals that invade our country have citizenship rights because it is easier. Let them have drivers licenses because they are already breaking the law and we want to make them legal to lower the crime stats.

Hey, since a wall won't work, why don't you leave your home unlocked because a burglar will just break in easily anyway. You libtards are pathetic losers and could not even exist if not for the charity of conservatives. You liberals should be grateful for the services of conservatives because if not for us, there would be a bounty on your heads and you would have to learn a foreign language.

I didn't say it was hard. I said it was a stupid idea. You sound like you have some street smarts. Would you let a 12 foot wall stop you if you wanted to get to the other side? Think about it for a sec. Off the top of your head how many ways can you come up with to defeat a $15 billion wall?

We need border security but it is not "the wall" or nothing. If your family was across a border and you wanted to join them what would stop you? Answer that and you are a little closer to finding the answer to border security.

Guest 03-18-2016 07:14 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1200596. Would you let a 12 foot wall stop you if you wanted to get to the other side? .[/QUOTE]
I thought it was closer to 50 ft high. You can be country road smart to that's a bit different.

Guest 03-18-2016 07:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1200607)
I thought it was closer to 50 ft high. You can be country road smart to see that's a bit different.

corrected statement


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