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Posted by Guest (Post 342714)

Well, Cologal and Richie, I do not have any medical implants or prosthetics and I am very happy about that.

Cologal, you seem to have adapted quite well to the situation since you do fly quite a bit. You will have a hard time with your lawsuit against TSA but that is your choice. If your case is ever heard, your background will play a big part for the TSA and it will also be TSA's word against yours. That is not meant to be derogative in any sense but just a legal view. No reply, pls.

Richie, you have not adapted at all. Your wife flies with no problem. Must be tough to explain to your children why Dad does not join the family group but that is your choice.

We all make our choices in what we do. I fly and have no problem. Cologal adapts to the situation and flies. Richie's wife flies and has no problem. Richie does not adapt and does not fly.

If you want to fly - adapt to the rules and regulations. It does not matter whether or not you think the rules are too much or too little, they are the rules.

I have being traveling and therefore not posting for a while. But I will answer one of your comments. It is said that for every action there is a reaction which no one can control. So my comment back is only on it will be their word against mine.....thankfully NO. It is all caught on tape. And I have a quite a number of emails from customer service at COS.

My point is now and always has been this....

Any able bodied person can select to walk through a metal detector with a bomb, no metal parts, in his or her unmentionables without detection. It has happened twice.....that is why we call him the underwear bomber.

So I am the reverse of a terrorist when I hit the airport....I look and often ask where the scanner is operating and head right for it. The opposite is quite simple you can readily see which scanner is in operation and avoid it. The only deterrent then is you might be selected for the mother of all pat-downs.

That is why we pat down 6 year olds..... feeling safe?

I didn't take anything you said personally by the way.

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Posted by Guest (Post 342398)

I am sorry Richie. I still don't get it. And sorry too Cologal that you have to go through this and it causes you so much anxiety.

There are terrorists and these procedures can help us fly safely or at least a little safer. I think that the procedures are for the greater good and for greater safety. Are they fail safe? Probably not. But you can't just let them think that we aren't tryin'.

Helene has metal wiring in her sternum from a heart surgery. I would never think that she was being targeted.

I cannot believe that every person working for the TSA or a majority of people working for the TSA or a lot of people working for the TSA are sex deviates.

I see that it is your political stance and even your heartfelt belief against government intervention, when not needed and I am trying to see it from your side.

Cologal flies a lot and Richie you don't fly.

Could it just be possible, that most of these people who work for the TSA are just ordinary folks with a job to do?

I do not understand all this fear. At least that is how it feels to me when I read these posts. Fear.

Could you allow yourself to think, just for one moment that these procedures are helping...even a little?

In a perfect world, the one we grew up in even, this wouldn't be necessary. Unfortunately it is.

Graciegirl...

I have been trying to compose a post that would help you understand.....

I believe that the days of us walking directly on an airplane are long over. Security is required however it should be applied equally. No one segment of the population should be over burdened. This week I flew home to Colorado from Orlando but I did not fly to the closest airport to my home. Instead I flew to DEN not COS. A friend drove up to Denver to pick me up and will drop me off at the airport hotel on Saturday for the flight back as it is a 0 Dark 30 in the morning. Why am I doing this because if I fly out of COS then I will be subjected to a very invasive pat-down. While I am not a proponent nor a opponent of profiling I believe this could be a tool to stop the unwarranted searches of the disabled. So if you look at my profile I have been flying a lot for more than 20 years most of my trips start at COS, I know the people there and they know me. I purchase round trip tickets in advance and I check luggage every trip. I am a US citizen with 3 nephews in the military and no criminal record or ties to a terrorist group. The only thing is the metal in my knees. TSA knows where the metal detector alarms....they don't need to check my bra I didn't alarm there. Why can't I undergo a background check, at my expense, and be cleared?

The only thing that protects the population from a bomb is a scanner, but only 87 airports in the US have scanners and they are not always operational. So is TSA targeting the disabled? I think yes, the sight of the 2% of us undergoing a pat down after being caught with metal parts makes the 98% of you feel safe and protected. And because of that we are overburdened.

Hope this helps.