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Guest 02-04-2012 04:51 PM
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I certainly can tell what the talking points were on Fox News today; Don't give President Obama any credit at all; keep talking about the poor long term unemployed. The republicans haven't given a fig about the long term unemployed for the last three years, but suddenly they've turned into bleeding heart liberals shedding crocodile tears for the long term unemployed. Where were they when it came time to extend long term unemployment benefits?
Excuse me...the link that I provided in my original post came from CBS News.

I would just like to hear accurate reporting from all sides. If you're going to report statistics, report the truth.

What is the actual number of ALL the unemployed in our nation including all the new filers, the present filers and past filers who are still not employed?

We know d**n well that it is much greater than 8.3-8.5%.

Guest 02-04-2012 04:55 PM
It does seem to me that to some of you anything that does not support the republican mantra is not factual,not supportive and based on misinformation. It is really too bad that your thinking is so narrow-minded and so predictable that it is very hard to take you serious.

Guest 02-04-2012 05:02 PM
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Excuse me...the link that I provided in my original post came from CBS News.

I would just like to hear accurate reporting from all sides. If you're going to report statistics, report the truth.

What is the actual number of ALL the unemployed in our nation including all the new filers, the present filers and past filers who are still not employed?

We know d**n well that it is much greater than 8.3-8.5%.
You know what would help all the new filers, the present filers, and the past filers??? - the republican leadership in the house allowing an up or down vote on President Obama's Jobs Bill.

And the statistics I report are from the Department of Labor.

Guest 02-04-2012 05:09 PM
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It does seem to me that to some of you anything that does not support the republican mantra is not factual,not supportive and based on misinformation. It is really too bad that your thinking is so narrow-minded and so predictable that it is very hard to take you serious.
Listen...I am not bashing Obama...I am not bashing the democrats.

I am not narrow-minded and I certainly am not predictable.

I would just like to know the accurate percentage of unemployed in the United States.

I could care less if you take me seriously.

I just want to hear the truth.

Guest 02-04-2012 05:15 PM
As I said before, if the statistics do not come up with the results you want - make up your own statistics.

Unemployment went down to 8.3. Not a large drop but still down.

Guest 02-04-2012 05:15 PM
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And the statistics I report are from the Department of Labor.
I have read through your posts on this particular thread twice...and I haven't seen any statistics that you have posted from the Department of Labor.

Could you please steer me to that statistical post?

Guest 02-04-2012 05:18 PM
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As I said before, if the statistics do not come up with the results you want - make up your own statistics.

Unemployment went down to 8.3. Not a large drop but still down.
Yes, Buggy one, you have said that before.

Can you please tell me which statistic I made up?

Guest 02-04-2012 05:30 PM
"U6" is the statistic that includes long-term unemployed.

If you want to see a chart of how U6 has been going:

Portal Seven | U6 Unemployment Rate

Guest 02-04-2012 05:32 PM
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I have read through your posts on this particular thread twice...and I haven't seen any statistics that you have posted from the Department of Labor.

Could you please steer me to that statistical post?
From the front page of today's newspaper; Unemployment Rate 8.3 percent, 243,000 Jobs added in January; 12,862.23 Dow Jones close on Friday, its highest since May 2008; 12.8 million Unemployed Americans

The article also went on to say "The unemployment rate came down by two notches from December. It has fallen five months in a row, the first time that has happened since 1994, two economic booms and two recessions ago".

As much as I would like to continue, I have to sign off and get ready to watch the caucus results.

Guest 02-04-2012 05:43 PM
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"U6" is the statistic that includes long-term unemployed.

If you want to see a chart of how U6 has been going:

Portal Seven | U6 Unemployment Rate
Here's an even better chart!

Source Page: Alternate Unemployment Charts

Guest 02-04-2012 05:55 PM
Thank you djplong and skyguy. I am not very computer savvy and you knew exactly where to look. I appreciate your efforts very much. :bigbow:


Sooo...if I am reading the charts correctly...the unemployment rate which includes practically everybody is 15.1%. Correct? And it is dropping, which is a very, very good thing.

That's all I was really interested in.

Buggy one, Jan and Wayne...I really do hope that you have a chance to look at the charts. Very interesting reading!

Guest 02-04-2012 08:59 PM
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Posted by Guest (Post 448908)
"U6" is the statistic that includes long-term unemployed.

If you want to see a chart of how U6 has been going:

Portal Seven | U6 Unemployment Rate
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How about this chart that shows that a record 1.2 MILLION people fell out of the labor force in one month. Which means that the civilian labor force tumbled to a fresh 30 year low of 63.7% as the Bureau of Labor & Statistics is seriously planning on eliminating nearly half of the available labor pool from the unemployment calculation. That should bolster Obama's dog and pony act of increased employment.

Record 1.2 Million People Fall Out Of Labor Force In One Month, Labor Force Participation Rate Tumbles To Fresh 30 Year Low | ZeroHedge

Guest 02-04-2012 09:55 PM
Richie does have a great sense of humor. 63% unemployment in the US? Why not count in all the retired people, people under 18 years old, federal employees, state employees, union workers, community activitists, and social workers to make it up to over 70%?

Guest 02-04-2012 10:22 PM
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Republicans just hate good news. Virtually every economist on the planet said Friday's numbers were a very positive employment report from almost any angle. The unemployment rate has fallen five months in a row, the first time that has happened since 1994. Of course you probably didn't hear that on Fox News or in The Villages Daily Sun or from the republican leadership in the house.

Because of optimism about the economy, the jobs report triggered a spasm of buying on Wall Street.

We can only imagine how much lower the unemployment rate would be if the republican house would pass President Obama's jobs bill.
:agree:

Guest 02-04-2012 10:39 PM
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the civilian labor force tumbled to a fresh 30 year low of 63.7%
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Richie does have a great sense of humor. 63% unemployment in the US?
I trust you misread Richie's statement :ohdear:!


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