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Guest 07-16-2015 08:37 AM

The current polls are extremely important since they will determine who gets invited to the first debate on Fox News in less than three weeks. Unless Fox changes the criteria soon, only those polling in the top ten will be on that stage. The other seven or eight might as well fold up their tents and go home.

There has never been, in recent memory, a time when a cable news network basically picks who can compete for a party's nomination.

Guest 07-16-2015 09:34 AM

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The current polls are extremely important since they will determine who gets invited to the first debate on Fox News in less than three weeks. Unless Fox changes the criteria soon, only those polling in the top ten will be on that stage. The other seven or eight might as well fold up their tents and go home.

There has never been, in recent memory, a time when a cable news network basically picks who can compete for a party's nomination.

Yeah, Maddow on MSNBC has, as she always done in her shrill mocking manner, just keeps making things up in an effort to keep her viewers and keep them from going to Fox. She is really better served for the "trash talk" kind of TV, and probably where she may end up as ratings on that network continue to set new lows.

Guest 07-16-2015 10:17 AM

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Yeah, Maddow on MSNBC has, as she always done in her shrill mocking manner, just keeps making things up in an effort to keep her viewers and keep them from going to Fox. She is really better served for the "trash talk" kind of TV, and probably where she may end up as ratings on that network continue to set new lows.


It is surprising that any poster on this forum would know what Rachael Maddow is talking about on her MSNBC show. What has she specifically said that is untrue? Last night her guest was the very conservative publisher of the very conservative Union Times Leader of New Hampshire. What did he say that was untrue?

Guest 07-16-2015 10:27 AM

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It is surprising that any poster on this forum would know what Rachael Maddow is talking about on her MSNBC show. What has she specifically said that is untrue? Last night her guest was the very conservative publisher of the very conservative Union Times Leader of New Hampshire. What did he say that was untrue?

For one....

"MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Gets Facts Wrong Saying Fox News Changed Debate Rules.

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said Thursday night Fox News appears to have tried to block Donald Trump from qualifying for the network’s upcoming Republican presidential debate in Ohio by making a last minute addition to its qualifying criteria.

“Today, Fox News apparently changed their debate rules,” Maddow said, suggesting the network had added a brand new requirement–that candidates provide financial reporting within a set time–that was designed specifically to keep Trump from being on the stage.

Why would a television network try to deny access to a known ratings draw–and the candidate running at or near the top of national polls? Maddow suggested Republicans wanted to avoid a “side show” or “fiasco.”

But the “change” that Maddow reported wasn’t a change at all–and certainly wasn’t a last-minute effort by Fox News to block Trump–since the financial disclosure requirement was among the original debate rules announced in May, before Trump’s entry into the race on June 16.

(The financial disclosure actually isn’t a Fox News rule at all. The network’s debate criteria require that candidates “file all necessary paperwork with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).” It’s the FEC that mandates one of those filings be a financial disclosure.)




MSNBC #1 In 18-34 Demo Last Week | TVNewser


I only posted what I posted because of a previous poster who took the daily shot at Fox, who obviously is in most peoples heads a lot, as they are deemed to be more powerful than a locomotive.

Maddow is a intelligent person who knows her niche. I am not a regular viewer obviously, but I do check all networks especially to see what they are leading with on the talk shows (do not confuse any of them with NEWS). I have seen this woman spend 45 minutes mocking someone, and making fun which she seems to think is cute.

Guest 07-16-2015 10:50 AM

http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/0...to-cash/204440


Here is a link to last night's show for anyone who might have missed it. Watch the tape and judge for yourself.

The fact remains that the RNC has made a mockery of the debates by allowing one network to pick and choose who gets to appear.

Many of the 'second tier' candidates are furious, and as of now, don't expect to see Carly Fiorina, Lindsey Graham, Rick Perry, Chris Christie and others on the stage.

Fox has yet to name what polls they will use to get an average polling number. The difference between number one and number sixteen could fall within the margin of error. The difference between number ten (the cutoff) and number eleven could be one/tenth of one percent.

Guest 07-16-2015 11:13 AM

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For one....

"MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Gets Facts Wrong Saying Fox News Changed Debate Rules.

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said Thursday night Fox News appears to have tried to block Donald Trump from qualifying for the network’s upcoming Republican presidential debate in Ohio by making a last minute addition to its qualifying criteria.

“Today, Fox News apparently changed their debate rules,” Maddow said, suggesting the network had added a brand new requirement–that candidates provide financial reporting within a set time–that was designed specifically to keep Trump from being on the stage.

Why would a television network try to deny access to a known ratings draw–and the candidate running at or near the top of national polls? Maddow suggested Republicans wanted to avoid a “side show” or “fiasco.”

But the “change” that Maddow reported wasn’t a change at all–and certainly wasn’t a last-minute effort by Fox News to block Trump–since the financial disclosure requirement was among the original debate rules announced in May, before Trump’s entry into the race on June 16.

(The financial disclosure actually isn’t a Fox News rule at all. The network’s debate criteria require that candidates “file all necessary paperwork with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).” It’s the FEC that mandates one of those filings be a financial disclosure.)




MSNBC #1 In 18-34 Demo Last Week | TVNewser


I only posted what I posted because of a previous poster who took the daily shot at Fox, who obviously is in most peoples heads a lot, as they are deemed to be more powerful than a locomotive.

Maddow is a intelligent person who knows her niche. I am not a regular viewer obviously, but I do check all networks especially to see what they are leading with on the talk shows (do not confuse any of them with NEWS). I have seen this woman spend 45 minutes mocking someone, and making fun which she seems to think is cute.

The point that Maddow was trying to make is the FEC rules allow two 45 day extensions. Can a candidate request an extension and still be considered to be abiding by the FEC rules?

Guest 07-16-2015 12:24 PM

Rachel Maddow and most of MSNBC news is equivalent to tabloid news. Anyone who would watch that sideshow on a regular basis are the same people who spend a lot of time reading Star, The Inquirer, and similar rags while waiting in line at the grocery store. Real news is not relevant to them.

Guest 07-16-2015 01:26 PM

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Rachel Maddow and most of MSNBC news is equivalent to tabloid news. Anyone who would watch that sideshow on a regular basis are the same people who spend a lot of time reading Star, The Inquirer, and similar rags while waiting in line at the grocery store. Real news is not relevant to them.

How did this discussion turn from one on polls and debates to one on the merits of TV networks? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Any opinion on Fox News being allowed to pick the GOP contenders?

Guest 07-16-2015 06:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1087815)
Rachel Maddow and most of MSNBC news is equivalent to tabloid news. Anyone who would watch that sideshow on a regular basis are the same people who spend a lot of time reading Star, The Inquirer, and similar rags while waiting in line at the grocery store. Real news is not relevant to them.

Same as Fox!!!!

Guest 07-16-2015 07:57 PM

Every regressive, or Con, or whatever they are calling themselves these days loses to Mrs. Clinton.

As the Cons are so fond of saying ............

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!!!!

Guest 07-16-2015 11:23 PM

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Every regressive, or Con, or whatever they are calling themselves these days loses to Mrs. Clinton.

As the Cons are so fond of saying ............

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!!!!

No you guys do the name calling.....just another nonsensical BS post....again!

Guest 07-17-2015 01:28 PM

This seems to be a recurring misunderstanding. Most news organizations have two sides: hard news and opinion. For Fox, Brett Baier is an example of the hard news side and Bill O'Reilly is an example of the opinion side. However, it isn't clear to me that MSNBC has much of a hard news side - they seem to be almost exclusively opinion. They are far left. Fox's opinion is to the right. Fox hard news is clearly the most unbiased. Fox leads in the ratings among cable news organization, sometimes by enormous amounts. MSNBC's rating are generally very low. I believe this reflects the extremism of their positions and the weakness of their hosts.

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Same as Fox!!!!


Guest 07-17-2015 06:38 PM

The triple strength (XXX) kool aid is very strong on poll flavors!


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