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Guest 06-05-2012 04:11 PM

It's not that they don't want it.they don't want it before this election they will allow after nov.election's .And to say no fraud is just stupid.Every election you see in news people who didn't vote but voter rolls show someone did.Now how would you prosecute when you don't know who did.If the left really cared they would support a national id but no one here has.Instead just say prove it.Think they are afraid they would get clock cleaned in a fair election.

Guest 06-05-2012 04:28 PM

As of today here is what election officials have found. There have been 13 people purged and 2 might have voted.

Guest 06-05-2012 04:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501936)
It's not that they don't want it.they don't want it before this election they will allow after nov.election's .And to say no fraud is just stupid.Every election you see in news people who didn't vote but voter rolls show someone did.Now how would you prosecute when you don't know who did.If the left really cared they would support a national id but no one here has.Instead just say prove it.Think they are afraid they would get clock cleaned in a fair election.

Do you realize what a monumental task it would be to make sure every American citizen was eligible to vote and had a government issued voter ID? Why didn't you start squawking about it in 2008 and perhaps it could have been done as part of the US Census in 2010.

BTW: I've been looking all over for those cases you mentioned in FT Myers. I assume you meant FT Myers, FL and not FT Meyers as you stated. I would like to research the cases for my upcoming book on voter fraud. Can you post a link?

Guest 06-05-2012 05:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501945)
Do you realize what a monumental task it would be to make sure every American citizen was eligible to vote and had a government issued voter ID? Why didn't you start squawking about it in 2008 and perhaps it could have been done as part of the US Census in 2010.

BTW: I've been looking all over for those cases you mentioned in FT Myers. I assume you meant FT Myers, FL and not FT Meyers as you stated. I would like to research the cases for my upcoming book on voter fraud. Can you post a link?

In actual cases, the voter id thing began back in 2003...I think there 5 states that passed some sort of law at that time and the march continues. The Democratic party continues to spend money to upend as many as possible and there are a few up in state supreme courts.

This is a state issue...now the purging is a FEDERAL law that states must do but the DOJ, for some reason keeps stepping to make sure it does not happen. It is a federal law simply because we have so very man illegal folks here and most recognize how dangerous this is becoming.

Guest 06-05-2012 05:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501962)
In actual cases, the voter id thing began back in 2003...I think there 5 states that passed some sort of law at that time and the march continues. The Democratic party continues to spend money to upend as many as possible and there are a few up in state supreme courts.

This is a state issue...now the purging is a FEDERAL law that states must do but the DOJ, for some reason keeps stepping to make sure it does not happen. It is a federal law simply because we have so very man illegal folks here and most recognize how dangerous this is becoming.

When The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed, it was more of a civil rights issue than an immigration issue. Some states, such as Florida, have a stricter mandate because of past indiscretions.

Guest 06-05-2012 05:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501945)
Do you realize what a monumental task it would be to make sure every American citizen was eligible to vote and had a government issued voter ID?
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it can't be that big a deal if every american citizen gets a birth certificate, social security number, and those who elect to get a driver's license.

we're americans! no challenge is too big!

is it, janmcn?

Guest 06-05-2012 05:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501977)
When The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed, it was more of a civil rights issue than an immigration issue. Some states, such as Florida, have a stricter mandate because of past indiscretions.


We are talking about VOTER ID here !!! It is a state issue,not fed. The federal laws says they must purge

This has NOTHING to do with anyones civil rights unless someone is stricken, not allowed to vote without recourse.

Of course my civil rights are violated if ONE illegal votes !!!

Guest 06-05-2012 05:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501981)
We are talking about VOTER ID here !!! It is a state issue,not fed. The federal laws says they must purge

This has NOTHING to do with anyones civil rights unless someone is stricken, not allowed to vote without recourse.

Of course my civil rights are violated if ONE illegal votes !!!

What federal law says they must purge? The Voter Registration Act of 1993 says states may not purge their rolls 90 days before an election. The Florida primary is August 14, 2012. You do the math.

Would your civil rights be violated if registered voters are not allowed to vote?

Guest 06-05-2012 05:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501978)
it can't be that big a deal if every american citizen gets a birth certificate, social security number, and those who elect to get a driver's license.

we're americans! no challenge is too big!

is it, janmcn?

How many elderly African-American citizens have no birth certificate because they were not allowed to be born in a hospital before the Civil Rights Act passed in 1965? What would you suggest they do?

Guest 06-05-2012 06:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501986)
What federal law says they must purge? The Voter Registration Act of 1993 says states may not purge their rolls 90 days before an election. The Florida primary is August 14, 2012. You do the math.

Would your civil rights be violated if registered voters are not allowed to vote?


Well, not my conversation but I know the HAVA act requires that each state is required to maintain the statewide list and to remove any ineligible voters. That goes back to maybe 2001/2002.

Which is what Florida was trying to do in a reasonable manner asking the Federal government for listings that the fed said was available, HOWEVER the Fed (DOJ) resisited and did not thus the state began the mandated purge with what they had(NOT in secret by the way) and of course the DOJ and Fed actions put them up against that 90 day problem.

AGain, WHY are not you folks who are yelling so loud be yelling that you want to be involved in the purging as REQUIRED BY LAW. But recently the DOJ and the Fed wants to get involved in all the states trying to administer the FED law...go figure !

Guest 06-05-2012 06:17 PM

I am sure some LEGAL effort would be made to be sure their ability to vote would not be hindered, thus allowing the system to get rid of names/individuals that do not belong on the list. They are not the issue.

btk

Guest 06-07-2012 04:46 PM

Front page, above the fold, article in today's Tampa Bay Times entitled "Scott Scoffs at Feds' Demand". Gov Scott claims "the Department of Justice doesn't understand two federal voting laws at the heart of dispute". The DOJ doesn't understand the law, but Scott and his two buddies, Secretary of State Ken Detzner and Attorney General Pam Bondi do.

What is unclear is who is going to do the purging, if Scott wins, since the 67 county Elections Supervisors refuse to break the law, and they are the only ones capable of changing voter registrations. They don't work for Scott. They are elected officials, and Scott can't order them to do anything. Somebody better take Scott aside and tell him being governor is different than being a CEO.


Gov. Rick Scott refuses federal demand to stop hunting for potential noncitizen voters - Tampa Bay Times

Guest 06-07-2012 04:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 503014)
Front page, above the fold, article in today's Tampa Bay Times entitled "Scott Scoffs at Feds' Demand". Gov Scott claims "the Department of Justice doesn't understand two federal voting laws at the heart of dispute". The DOJ doesn't understand the law, but Scott and his two buddies, Secretary of State Ken Detzner and Attorney General Pam Bondi do.

What is unclear is who is going to do the purging, if Scott wins, since the 67 county Elections Supervisors refuse to break the law, and they are the only ones capable of changing voter registrations. They don't work for Scott. They are elected officials, and Scott can't order them to do anything. Somebody better take Scott aside and tell him being governor is different than being a CEO.


Gov. Rick Scott refuses federal demand to stop hunting for potential noncitizen voters - Tampa Bay Times

Not its not......I want my vote to count and it is clear that florida has overtaken Illinois and new Jersey as the most corrupt state. Purge baby purge

Guest 06-07-2012 04:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 503014)
Front page, above the fold, article in today's Tampa Bay Times entitled "Scott Scoffs at Feds' Demand". Gov Scott claims "the Department of Justice doesn't understand two federal voting laws at the heart of dispute". The DOJ doesn't understand the law, but Scott and his two buddies, Secretary of State Ken Detzner and Attorney General Pam Bondi do.

What is unclear is who is going to do the purging, if Scott wins, since the 67 county Elections Supervisors refuse to break the law, and they are the only ones capable of changing voter registrations. They don't work for Scott. They are elected officials, and Scott can't order them to do anything. Somebody better take Scott aside and tell him being governor is different than being a CEO.


Gov. Rick Scott refuses federal demand to stop hunting for potential noncitizen voters - Tampa Bay Times

The answer might just be the Federal Government following Federal Law as they continually refuse to do. Again, why is not the conversation on HOW the purging should be done and not IF ????? It is law to do it.

PS....Since you quote the Times quite a bit, I have a condo in Tampa and thus know many folks who actuallly work and write there..you certainly know their bias. Drove down here today and this morning...did you have a tough time finding anything on the Wisconsin vote ?

Guest 06-07-2012 05:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 503025)
The answer might just be the Federal Government following Federal Law as they continually refuse to do. Again, why is not the conversation on HOW the purging should be done and not IF ????? It is law to do it.

PS....Since you quote the Times quite a bit, I have a condo in Tampa and thus know many folks who actuallly work and write there..you certainly know their bias. Drove down here today and this morning...did you have a tough time finding anything on the Wisconsin vote ?

The DOJ doesn't enforce it's own immigration laws, and attempts to punish states that try to enforce the law in spite of federal refusal to.

So now the left is surprised that the DOJ is not enforcing election laws?

The DOJ under Obama is just another tool for the advancement of the Democrat Party and his own personal agenda, and not the enforcement of laws.

Guest 06-07-2012 06:57 PM

Whats the big deal about this voter purge its to remove people that are dead are not in Florida etc. Every body thinks its to get the democrats. Like defraging your computer it will run better. Give it up.The law is the law,with them we now have a free for all

Guest 06-08-2012 07:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 501342)
Please post a link for your allegations. Why isn't our esteemed Gov Rick Scott doing anything about those one million illegal immigrants like Gov Jan Brewer did in Arizona? And why is this rampant voter fraud not being prosecuted? I thought we were a country of laws.

Have you ever noticed that your posting just goes around and around in circles?

Guest 06-08-2012 11:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 503265)
Have you ever noticed that your posting just goes around and around in circles?

No. It is my civic duty to keep Florida citizens informed about how their constitutional right to vote is being "compromised by Gov Rick Scott's continuing political fights with the Obama administration". So says the Tampa Bay Times in today's editorial which compares Scott to Gov George Wallace's standing in the doorway at the University of Alabama on June 11, 1963.

To sum it up "Florida should not be at war with Washington, and Floridians should not have to rely on the Justice Department to prevent their rights from being compromised by their state government. Governor, we again join in the call for you to stop this flawed purging of the voter rolls".


Governor, halt the flawed voter purge - Tampa Bay Times

Guest 06-08-2012 03:18 PM

how about if he promises to not affect the legitimate, valid voters registered.

And only removes the dead, illegal and unqualified?

Nobody could really take a position that would allow the dead and illegal and unqualified to remain on the rolls....would you? could you?

For the majority that can think in non partisan terms.....fix what is wrong or broken......sorta like motherhood and apple pie.

btk


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