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Guest 02-19-2012 07:57 AM

In all honesty, what I've seen as a constant form the GOP Primaries is a constant search for the Not-Romney. Whether it was 'drafting' Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann at the Iowa Cacuses, Herman Cain's resurgence, Newt coming from out of nowhere..

Now it's Santorum. But what do we hear? I don't know about anyone else, but so many seem to want Chris Christie.

It's like they're searching for their next Reagan and they're not going to find him. Not like what happened in 1980. I mean, Reagan lost to Ford in '76 and was ready for 'the next campaign'. Who was in that position when this campaign started? Who lost to McCain? Hint: It wasn't Romney. *Mike Huckabee* finished second to McCain , according to the stats I got from RealClearPolitics. What have we heard from him? Not a peep.

Guest 02-19-2012 10:14 AM

With the country going broke and Newt wanting to build a Moon colony, really, you needed to ask what happened to Newt. Should have been really simple to see what happened, he's crazy and out of touch with the vast majority of Americans who want to see less government spending, less handouts, smaller government and a return to capitalism, where hard work and effort pay off and those that don't work, don't eat. Simple enough for me to understand.

Guest 02-19-2012 11:01 AM

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in response, let me reiterate that the debate is NOT about birth control but about religious freedom, which is being totally usurped by our dictator in washington. to try to say that insurance companies are going to provide anything for FREE is ridiculous and insults our intelligence...i don't think any religious group should be receiving federal funds, and then the government would have no say at all in how they conduct their operations. if we paid fewer taxes, we could support our religion of choice more generously and they would not need federal funds to do their good works!

That actually makes sense. Take away federal funding for all religious groups and also take away their tax exempt status.

Guest 02-19-2012 11:03 AM

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Diplong usually posts with simple and wise answers with no rancor. I always enjoy reading his comments.

And here is my biased and snarky comment: Newt got exactly what he deserved, oblivion. However he is a street fighter and doesn't give up easily.

Oblivion is better then he deserves.....He may not give up easily; his ego is huge.

Guest 02-19-2012 11:13 AM

I still would like to see/hear where the qualifiers of "most catholic women use them" or especially the one that states "over 95% of catholic women use them".....comes from.

Convenient generalizations presented as fact to make a point...usually political as in this thread!

btk

Guest 02-19-2012 11:22 AM

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I still would like to see/hear where the qualifiers of "most catholic women use them" or especially the one that states "over 95% of catholic women use them".....comes from.

Convenient generalizations presented as fact to make a point...usually political as in this thread!

btk

I have also read the 95% figure. That sounds very high...However, I went to a Catholic University and I can tell you that well over 50% of the women I knew there were on birth control. Granted this was a long time ago, but if this trended like you would expect, the number would likely go up, not down. If Catholics were not using birth control, their population would be growing at a higher rate. I think I recently read that Muslims have overtaken Catholics as having the greatest number of followers.

Guest 02-19-2012 11:32 AM

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I have also read the 95% figure. That sounds very high...However, I went to a Catholic University and I can tell you that well over 50% of the women I knew there were on birth control. Granted this was a long time ago, but if this trended like you would expect, the number would likely go up, not down. If Catholics were not using birth control, their population would be growing at a higher rate. I think I recently read that Muslims have overtaken Catholics as having the greatest number of followers.

Truth or not; there's no merit or justification in attempting to compel the Catholic Church, against it's teaching, to provide birth control pills, and to provide them free of charge, to boot. There is nothing stopping Catholic women from purchasing these pills of their own free will.

Guest 02-19-2012 12:42 PM

Gingrich joins Palin as most disliked politician in America.

Guest 02-19-2012 02:16 PM

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Gingrich joins Palin as most disliked politician in America.

I think thats only in your house that might be true, and not in real world America.

Guest 02-19-2012 02:51 PM

It really does not matter how many Catholic women AND MEN use The Pill, vasectomy or tubal ligation, disobeying the Church's teachings/law.

It's about the federal government forcing religious employers to pay for these things, whether it's paying more into the insurance risk pool to cover more claims, or whether the federal government "orders" insurance companies and self-insurers to "give" it to people who don't have the coverage.

When are people going to wake up to the fact that every single time the government says "We will GIVE you this or that (which costs money)".....

....it also goes without saying, "We will TAKE the money needed to pay for this from somebody else.....never mind who THAT is......we'll have unelected, appointed bureaucrats at HHS figure that out later......

.....and since we won't know who really decided who it is that gets the money TAKEN from them, there's nobody who can be identified as accountable for the thievery."

Here's a great exposé-commentary on that, from Greta VanSusteren:

What did you expect? They didn’t even bother to read it ! And then they have passed the buck to unelected people to essentially write it! (and, am I wrong?) « Gretawire

Guest 02-19-2012 02:57 PM

Now Santorum says to Bob Schiffer that pre-natal care can lead to abortions.

Guest 02-19-2012 03:13 PM

Just got results of a search for fastest growing religion in the 21st century...so far I have found it to be...Islam, Buddhist, Scientology, Catholicism, etc,etc,etc...depending on which website you choose to read.
Islam is growing at a faster rate-2.9% compared with Chrisitanity-2.3%. However, Islam is smaller to start with and Christianity is adding 11 Billion followers more per year.
Christianity is even making gains in Islamic countries, and promises to be the largest religion in the 21st century!

http:///http://religionannarbor.word...wing-religion/

Guest 02-19-2012 04:09 PM

How many times would you guess you're going to hear the phrase "state- ordered trans-vaginal probe" before the election, mostly coming from democrats?

Even Ari Fleicher tweeted "this election should be about ideology, not theology".

Guest 02-19-2012 04:14 PM

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Gingrich joins Palin as most disliked politician in America.





Yes, absolutely true.

Anyone willing to do a google search can confirm that.

Guest 02-19-2012 04:54 PM

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Yes, absolutely true.

Anyone willing to do a google search can confirm that.

This is pretty funny. Google Palin hate? How is that measured? Do I need to poll people in Starbucks to get that result?


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