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Guest 08-03-2015 09:46 AM

Many of the Republicans running for president don't have to worry about fading. You have to be in the picture before you can fade. The biggest joke going is the Republicans have a deep well qualified field. No, they just have a lot of people running.

Biden will not get one vote from the religious committee. His speech announcing throwing his hat into the ring will have them covering their ears. It will be one sentence, "I am running for president, because it is a big bleepin deal."

Guest 08-03-2015 11:32 AM

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Curious,,,,,you might be correct, but on what do you base your absolute ?

Polls reflect a very dynamic picture right now and it is early....really curious about how you came to this call.

Fact is there is no Republican candidate and the Democratic picture is getting fuzzy suddenly.

I had said it was extremely likely that the Democrat nominee would win the presidency in 2016.

In what way is that an absolute? I came to this call by the demographics of both parties and how the Republicans seem to be trying to exclude any possible voters who might cross party lines.

Guest 08-03-2015 11:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095133)
Many of the Republicans running for president don't have to worry about fading. You have to be in the picture before you can fade. The biggest joke going is the Republicans have a deep well qualified field. No, they just have a lot of people running.

Biden will not get one vote from the religious committee. His speech announcing throwing his hat into the ring will have them covering their ears. It will be one sentence, "I am running for president, because it is a big bleepin deal."

You conveniently shifted the focus to republicans and forgot to mention Clinton fading when Biden enters the race!

Guest 08-03-2015 12:46 PM

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TV residents love their socialized single-payer health care, commonly known as Medicare, as long as you keep the government's hand out of it.

Not all of us. Medicare is a perfect example of the gov messing up something that they stick their hands in. First you pay for it all your working life. Then you retire and they tell you that Medicare A, which you paid for is only good for hospitalization. Not doctor visits and not prescriptions. If you want anything more than hospitalization, you must pay an extra $100+ for Medicare B, more for "C" and if you want prescriptions Medicare part D, which costs even more. No thank you. I will keep my Blue Cross/Blue Shield. As far as I am concerned, I the gov ripped me off, and now they are going to take half a trillion bucks of Medicare funds that WE paid for and use it to subsidize those that don't contribute (Obamacare).

So, if you think socialized medicine is such a great idea, travel and live in a few other countries...I HAVE. You need to experience it before you can understand it. Don't let those lefty liberals con you into thinking the gov is going to take all your troubles away. It's just like drinking until you pass out. You feel good when you don't have to stress about something, but once you wake up, the troubles are still there. And the bill is much greater.

Guest 08-03-2015 12:49 PM

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Or perhaps it should be "What is the difference between The Villages' liberals and and an Idiot".

:agree:

Or the difference between a liberal, outside troll and an idiot.

Guest 08-03-2015 12:52 PM

The difference between a socialist and a Democrat?

A Democrat is just a socialist with lipstick on.

Guest 08-03-2015 12:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095209)
I had said it was extremely likely that the Democrat nominee would win the presidency in 2016.

In what way is that an absolute? I came to this call by the demographics of both parties and how the Republicans seem to be trying to exclude any possible voters who might cross party lines.

Got it....

Your intent was not a simple political prediction this early on but a back door to go after the Republican party for what you perceive as a slight to blacks and hispanics.

Why not be up front......you do this quite a bit so might as well get all the preliminaries out of the way and get right to it.

And, I do apologize you were not that absolute. The idea of talking race and culture this early is quite something. I choose not to have that conversation.

The emphasis on race is not one that americans should be having. Some seem to look for reasons to bring it up.

It certainly might be a factor......I sure hope the racial attitude reflected in the lopsided voting in 2012 election does not repeat. THAT becomes a real concern for this country.

And before you say I am ignoring reality, I understand why you might say that, but the reality is different this year than in 2008 and 2012 both in demographic voting and in turnout.

I realize the country is more divided now than ever but I hope it has not become a white versus non white situation.

Guest 08-03-2015 01:04 PM

Wasser name is a perfect example to represent the Democrat party....ignorance of fact.
She/they get by using rhetoric, not real issues. What do they have to offer? Just fictitious accusations.

The GOP hates women because they don't want to subsidize birth control pills
They hate women because they won't let them kill unwanted babies
They are bigots because they believe in the Biblical marriage
They are racists because they don't agree with Obama's policies
They hate children because they don't want to give everyone free health care
They hate the poor because they won't increase taxes on the earners
They hate animals because they eat meat
They hate the environment because they use cars
etc. etc, etc

Funny but history tells a different story and liberals even attempt to rewrite that.

Guest 08-03-2015 01:06 PM

Just in case that instead of discussing race you might want a good analysis of the upcoming elections, this is from a Democrat who worries a bit.......and this little segment points to both the socialist claims and the race you fret over always...

"Democrats have an electoral advantage if they stay united and beat a path to the polls. But if polite prodding from the left in the primary turns to angry rhetoric, suddenly liberal ambivalence toward Clinton could shift to distaste or, just as bad, apathy. A liberal county here and another there with just enough of those alienated voters, and a state goes red. Then the White House does, too.

The biggest threat to Clinton losing her presidential bid isn't Republicans; it's Democrats.

But it is fallacy to believe that attacks, instead of debates, can do anything but undermine the chances of a party and its nominee. It would also be a mistake to push Clinton too far to the left with no way back. While Democrats have become more liberal, and Americans are more progressive generally on social issues, the country as a whole is still economically conservative."


Hillary Clinton's threat is Democrats | Newsday

I thought it was interesting. Sorry it does not call anyone a racist or anything like that but it is a pretty good read.

Doubting you will read the entire article but at one point he mentions how a lack of a debate on the left might be of concern.

Hearing this morning that there is no plan at this time for a Democratic debate, even though besides Biden coming in to join the other two, now the CEO of Starbucks, Howard Schultz is seriously joining the democratic fray

Guest 08-03-2015 01:10 PM

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Well, at least under Hillary's "leadership", we will all equally poor. :1rotfl:

But, will we be speaking Russian, Greek or ebonics by the end of her term? :1rotfl:

Guest 08-03-2015 01:29 PM

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That KKK comment wasn't me.

The Republicans treat Socialism as a swear word. Social Security, and Medicare are two socialist programs. I don't hear many people complaining about them here.

Single payer, Medicare for all, is the way to go. Cost of health care has gone through the roof. There was a number in the 90's that it cost the federal government 4 cents to process a claim, and 24 cents for an insurance company. I am sure that that gap is a lot closer now. You can open up state borders for health insurance companies that is not going to reduce premiums. They know what each other are going to charge. They prices will be so close you won't be able to tell the difference. Fixing prices is a strange way for Capitalism to work.

If the government can't process claims in an efficient manner, let the insurance companies process the claims, but will have accept the amount the federal government determines to be fair to process a claim. Who cares! Single payer will never happen. Insurance companies throw to much money at our elected officials. They are bought and paid for.

Is anyone out there going to try and sell that we are working on an equal playing field? Citizens United has guaranteed that the rich will never be the victim of the Democrats. Treating them as victims of anything is beyond the pale. It is not how much you make. It is how much you keep. Making the tax laws a lot fairer isn't an assault on the rich. It is common sense.

You have strayed quite far from the subject, but I will disagree with you.
Medicare and Social Security is a perfect example of gov mismanagement. If you don't agree, then you are ignorant of the facts.

As far as medicare is concerned, I believe there is another posting on here that puts it pretty well, if not simply.

Social Security? Really bad mishandling.

I don't know how you can even mention them as good examples of socialism.

Guest 08-03-2015 01:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094952)
Perhaps the question could be, "What is the difference between The Villages Tea Party and the KKK?"

From a lot of posts on the forum, I would guess there is not too much difference.

Good example of an uninformed liberal. You "guess" because you don't have any information to support you assumption. Not a good way to represent your side. Kind of like coming to a gun fight with a rubber banana..chilout

Guest 08-03-2015 01:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095270)
Just in case that instead of discussing race you might want a good analysis of the upcoming elections, this is from a Democrat who worries a bit.......and this little segment points to both the socialist claims and the race you fret over always...

"Democrats have an electoral advantage if they stay united and beat a path to the polls. But if polite prodding from the left in the primary turns to angry rhetoric, suddenly liberal ambivalence toward Clinton could shift to distaste or, just as bad, apathy. A liberal county here and another there with just enough of those alienated voters, and a state goes red. Then the White House does, too.

The biggest threat to Clinton losing her presidential bid isn't Republicans; it's Democrats.

But it is fallacy to believe that attacks, instead of debates, can do anything but undermine the chances of a party and its nominee. It would also be a mistake to push Clinton too far to the left with no way back. While Democrats have become more liberal, and Americans are more progressive generally on social issues, the country as a whole is still economically conservative."


Hillary Clinton's threat is Democrats | Newsday

I thought it was interesting. Sorry it does not call anyone a racist or anything like that but it is a pretty good read.

Doubting you will read the entire article but at one point he mentions how a lack of a debate on the left might be of concern.

Hearing this morning that there is no plan at this time for a Democratic debate, even though besides Biden coming in to join the other two, now the CEO of Starbucks, Howard Schultz is seriously joining the democratic fray

Maybe liberals can get Debbie Wasser-name to throw her hat into the ring and join a debate with Billary.
They'll ask Hillary a question. She'll answer with "what difference does it make" or blame the GOP
They'll ask Wasser-name a question. She'll look irritated and change the subject due to ignorance. Make up some more lying rhetoric like she always does and stare into space like a headlight dazed deer.

Guest 08-03-2015 02:27 PM

What is the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist?

A Socialist believes in more gov control and nationalization of industry (supposedly for the people).

A Democrat believes in more gov control and nationalization of industry (supposedly for the people).

Debbie was right, the real difference is between a Democrat and a Republican. Even though she was trying to salvage the interview when she was given a tough question, she hit it on the head. There is a big difference between a Republican and a Democrat. Not so much between a Socialist and a Democrat.

Years ago, America fought wars against socialists and communists. Now, a liberal

Guest 08-03-2015 02:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095317)
What is the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist?

A Socialist believes in more gov control and nationalization of industry (supposedly for the people).

A Democrat believes in more gov control and nationalization of industry (supposedly for the people).

Debbie was right, the real difference is between a Democrat and a Republican. Even though she was trying to salvage the interview when she was given a tough question, she hit it on the head. There is a big difference between a Republican and a Democrat. Not so much between a Socialist and a Democrat.

Years ago, America fought wars against socialists and communists. Now, a liberal

.... America embraces socialism and with the attacks on churches, seems to be aiming toward communism, a distant cousin of socialism.


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