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Guest 01-24-2012 08:38 AM

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Vattel’s Law of Nations:

“As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Every Supreme Court Justice knows what the term means, which is why the Supreme Court prefers to never hear the case. The term Natural Born Citizen refers to a citizen by Natural Law (aka the Laws of Nature), the natural offspring of a Father who was at the time of the child’s birth, a legal Citizen of the United States. The nation of the Father is thereby the nation of the child, via Natural Law.

Link: Lex Greene -- Natural Law and Natural Born Facts

Since Romney and Rubio's fathers where citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes them "natural born citizens" IAW Natural Law, where on the other hand, President Obama's father clearly was not a citizen at the time of Obama's birth, thererore making him not eligible for the Office of the President. Seems that a judge up in Georgia will decide this question shortly. To bad that there is no main stream media coverage of this proceedings. Wonder how long that judge will have that judgeship?

"Since Romney and Rubio's fathers were citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes the "natural born citizens" is incorrect pertaining to Rubio. Fact: Marco Rubio was born in Miami on May 28, 1971. His parents became citizens in 1975.

Guest 01-24-2012 08:56 AM

janmcn, then Rubio is correct, he is not eligible. Thanks for clearing that up. I did not research Rubio far enough to look at citizenship dates and birthdates.

Guest 01-24-2012 11:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 444525)
"Since Romney and Rubio's fathers were citizens at the time of his birth in the US, that makes the "natural born citizens" is incorrect pertaining to Rubio. Fact: Marco Rubio was born in Miami on May 28, 1971. His parents became citizens in 1975.

It is essential then they the country demand a full accounting of the validity of Obama's birth. Because to ignore this issue will set precedent allowing future candidates not being "natural born" to run for president or at least it will be argued. and the country can't allow a protracted legal debate interfere with electing a president in a timely fashion. so what do you believe will occur?

I am writing my Senator. Oops that's Rubio. then I'll write the president. Oops that's Obama. then I'll write the Attorney General. Oops that's Holder

think think think

Guest 01-24-2012 03:17 PM

We all need to write our local and state level elected officials. Get their attention, that we will no longer allow something like this to take place. If the candidate can not or will not show prove that he/she is a "natural born citizen," then their name does no go on the ballet. Plain and simple, local and state level to fix this problem.

Guest 01-24-2012 06:15 PM

Gee, if Figmo is stating what a "natural born" person means, would he also exclude a person whose birth was Ceasarian Section? That is not natural as it takes a surgical procedure.

Guest 01-24-2012 06:30 PM

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Gee, if Figmo is stating what a "natural born" person means, would he also exclude a person whose birth was Ceasarian Section? That is not natural as it takes a surgical procedure.

Being born by Caesarian would not exclude that person if both parents were in the room at the time of birth....

Guest 01-24-2012 07:35 PM

What does having both parent being in the operating room have to do with being natural born for a Caesarian Section birth?

And what about Marco Rubio being born to Cubans who had not been naturalized citizens at the time of his birth? I would bet the teapartiers would take major exception to that.

Guest 01-24-2012 07:39 PM

Buggyone~ it was an attempt at humor...Ha Ha


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