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Guest 04-13-2016 07:06 PM

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I believe we both know why? That Democratic party was transformed under Kennedy and Johnson!

FDR had the Black vote. Kennedy reached out to MLK's wife for support.

Guest 04-13-2016 07:11 PM

I think this thread has gotten off topic.....

So to return the Gov of North Carolina is trying amend the bill and the Gov of Louisiana is rescinding Bobby Jindal's Religious Freedom Law.

Gov. John Bel Edwards to Rescind Bobby Jindal's Horrific Anti-Gay 'Religious Freedom' Order - The New Civil Rights Movement

I really don't think supporters of these bill understand the concept of public accommodation. If you don't want to bake a cake for a gay couple open a private bakery.

Guest 04-13-2016 07:43 PM

John Stewart---
The Daily Show - A Million Gays to Deny in the Midwest

I miss him.

Guest 04-13-2016 09:46 PM

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John Stewart---
The Daily Show - A Million Gays to Deny in the Midwest

I miss him.

A better link perhaps.....

https://youtu.be/mppJxR5wPCw

Guest 04-14-2016 04:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212318)
I think this thread has gotten off topic.....

So to return the Gov of North Carolina is trying amend the bill and the Gov of Louisiana is rescinding Bobby Jindal's Religious Freedom Law.

Gov. John Bel Edwards to Rescind Bobby Jindal's Horrific Anti-Gay 'Religious Freedom' Order - The New Civil Rights Movement

I really don't think supporters of these bill understand the concept of public accommodation. If you don't want to bake a cake for a gay couple open a private bakery.

Unless the gov owns the bakery, it IS a private bakery. It is a privately owned business, is it not? I am sure that these owners will not be hurt too greatly by gays boycotting their bakeries.

And this is not JUST related to bakeries. It has to do with allowing cross dressing perverts into opposite gender restrooms. If gays want to boycott those states that want to accommodate the majority view, then I say "adios amigas." And don't let the speed limit hinder you when passing through the state.

Guest 04-14-2016 05:45 AM

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A better link perhaps.....

https://youtu.be/mppJxR5wPCw

Isn't that the same link.It goes to jon stewert again,at least on my browser.

Guest 04-14-2016 06:13 AM

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Unless the gov owns the bakery, it IS a private bakery. It is a privately owned business, is it not? I am sure that these owners will not be hurt too greatly by gays boycotting their bakeries.

And this is not JUST related to bakeries. It has to do with allowing cross dressing perverts into opposite gender restrooms. If gays want to boycott those states that want to accommodate the majority view, then I say "adios amigas." And don't let the speed limit hinder you when passing through the state.

The business owner does not want to do business with gays because of religious reasons. Isn't that what this is all about? Isn't that discrimination?

Guest 04-14-2016 06:51 AM

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The business owner does not want to do business with gays because of religious reasons. Isn't that what this is all about? Isn't that discrimination?

A business owner should choose whom he will and won't do business with. It's not up to you to decide. Find someone who will do business with you. If you can't, well, maybe the problem IS you. Unless they're doing VERY well, no business is going to turn away business unless it's important enough to them.

Guest 04-14-2016 07:16 AM

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A business owner should choose whom he will and won't do business with. It's not up to you to decide. Find someone who will do business with you. If you can't, well, maybe the problem IS you. Unless they're doing VERY well, no business is going to turn away business unless it's important enough to them.

So, YOU would allow restaurants, hotels, or grocery stores to put signs in their windows saying, "Whites Only"?

Guest 04-14-2016 07:18 AM

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The business owner does not want to do business with gays because of religious reasons. Isn't that what this is all about? Isn't that discrimination?

You want your rights, how about their rights? Just because a business is "open to the public", doesn't mean it should lose it's right to self determination. It should be able to choose its customers with the freedom you have to choose a business to work for you. A business can turn down a customer for many reasons, one of them should be simply...I don't like you.

Why should you have the "right" to choose, but they don't? Afraid you'd be left out in the cold? If nobody wants to do business with you, it's probably you that needs changing.

Guest 04-14-2016 07:38 AM

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So, YOU would allow restaurants, hotels, or grocery stores to put signs in their windows saying, "Whites Only"?

If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

Guest 04-14-2016 07:44 AM

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If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

Some of you take note that one can have a very strong, passionate opinion and beleif and state it without the need to call others names or disparage the opposition.

Try it and see what a difference it makes where and how you are listened to by others.

Guest 04-14-2016 08:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212439)
If that's what they decide, yes. Why not? Why do you think you have a right to force someone to do business with you? They don't have the right to force you to do business with them.

Don't like it? Open your own restaurant, hotel, or store. YOU go through the risk and hassles of owning a business if you don't like how they run it. I bet the "white only" store does better than the "diversified" store. Thefts alone would make a difference. What neighborhoods businesses are more successful? White? Or black? It's a no-brainer that a business would prefer white only. Blacks are equal right? The government will give them a SBL to get started. So why don't they succeed?

I'm a libertarian at heart. I believe I should control my own life and as long as I don't bother others, I should be free to make my own decisions, my own choices. I also believe you live with your choices. Your neighbors decide what kind of a person you are and what they'll tolerate.

Regress back into the Jim Crow days. I would really be worried about the people who post this garbage on The Villahes forum IF I actually believed they meant it - instead of trying to "get our goat".

Remember that people who may want to move here will read this crap and some may take it seriously instead of realizing the spoofing. It will possibly detract the good people from moving here OR possibly attract MORE nut jobs with KKK ideals.

Guest 04-14-2016 09:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212470)
Regress back into the Jim Crow days. I would really be worried about the people who post this garbage on The Villahes forum IF I actually believed they meant it - instead of trying to "get our goat".

Remember that people who may want to move here will read this crap and some may take it seriously instead of realizing the spoofing. It will possibly detract the good people from moving here OR possibly attract MORE nut jobs with KKK ideals.

So you are advocating, insuating or stating that if one does not go along with the permissiveness of the day they are presenting a negative?

Does that mean freedom of speech has been re-defined? Go along or you are a bad person?

To the point that you think if some have that differing opinion it will affect who buys in TV.....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You can go to the head of the class for drinking the most kool aide and making a fool of ones self and think it is the right thing to do!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 04-14-2016 09:42 AM

I go away for 2 hours for golf and I missed all the fireworks. I need to golf more often.


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