I don’t know anything about identity politics. I’m an individual, a white male who happens to think that in the absence of traditional family structure and values with the ever decreasing religious community it is the citizens duty within the boundaries of government action need to take care of our own. Our own meaning all peoples from all the human tribes.


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And caught doing the exact same thing with his emails that they continue to pillory Hillary about.

And is one of ten close associates of Trump that SO FAR have been found to cover up their secret dealings with Russia.

You do know that he is now President of the United States and as such his every word is covered and analyzed world wide/

You do know that and that his words and actions are the news all over the world You do know that he speaks for all of us.

And you did not reply to the thread or the post, as you NEVER do......simply a snide little comment to distract.

Again, he lied as a Democratic. He lies as a Republican.

He was dishonest as a Democrat and is dishonest as a Republican.

How, on a political forum, discussing a liar in the White House, a man who demeans at every turn his own country, who makes false accusations of a felonious nature....ALL OF THEM SPREAD ALL OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD....is IN YOUR OPINION is an "obsession" validates your absolute disrespect for truth and honor.

It speaks directly to what you feel is important and truth does not rank very high on your list.

Your need to isolate and label other americans and then attack them speaks also directly to your lack of any redeeming qualities.

You are a fan of lying, support it, and you spout off about identity politics but are a white man supporting an agenda of white supremacy.

You offer no rebuttal to the accusations of his lying as a member of both parties, although if you wish I can direct you to concrete proven printed evidence.

You offer no rebuttal to his dishonest and UN AMERICAN activities as both a Democrat and Republican.

You offer only your personal support for lying, dishonesty and lack of character.

Actually, Fox Noise is the only station that continues to drag out Brazile, Hillary, the NFL, etc. ad nauseum in their desperate attempt to ignore any news at all that is derogatory toward Trump.

Why not? Ignorance is NOT bliss. If someone is so poorly educated in the basics of our common language, it is a sure bet they are equally poorly qualified to be discussing an intricate subject like politics. I seriously believe every single person should take a civics exam before they are allowed to vote. It's amazing how many people do not understand the basic structure of our government or cannot name even three Supreme Court Justices.

I just came across an article where a 21 week old was
born and survived.

So I will ask for the upteenth time does a fetus have moral value?

Mind you not money value but moral value.

Money value is a focus of Planned Parenthood and that is another topic for another time.

We have allowed non sequitur thinking to prevail by claiming a woman's right to chose. Again another topic
but by allowing this choice upsets the balance of moral value for a fetus.

Pro-choice people are saying if a fetus is allowed to survive it has moral value. However if abortion is the choice the fetus has no moral value and "that dog simply won't hunt"

it has been said that 75% of the abortions at Planned parenthood are performed on black females . The irony of it all escapes liberals .

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See....we agree on the substance, but YOU have lost the right to take the high moral road.

YOU support a non moral man surrounded by non moral people who committed and do commit non moral acts.

You are either moral or not....it is not an issue by issue basis, and YOU have, long ago, given up that road. You are against morals UNLESS it provides you ammo to attack and always deals with politics with you.

Most moral people are moral in all walks of their life....not, not most...ALL.....YOU ARE NOT.

What we have here is a poster who is in total denial, assuming a higher moral ground , exhibiting Trump Derangement Syndrome

The short version of what I said is "To anger a liberal, tell him the truth"

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You will no doubt be happy to hear that some states, in their zeal to protect the unborn, have introduced legislation to make male masturbation against the law. Isn't it great when perfect strangers feel empowered to make laws that control your personal body?

Au contraire: I support the position of the President of the United States. I leave the moral judgment of a man to God. I do however, judge the policy platform of my party and often disagree with their decisions, if and when they are capable of making one.

I spent my entire career studying, practicing and even offering ethics as the lead off topic in our managers meetings....but I digress. Judge me not least thee be judged.

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I prefer the undertakings of passing a law that demands serious consideration before performing an abortion when a heart beat of a fetus is detected.

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Well we agree to a point.

However, I don't need no stinkin goverment to do anything for me but promote commerce, defend the nation from foreign and domestic enemies and conduct a Treasury that provides a medium of exchange.

You know why ? Because all governments are amoral and they all want power and control over the individual and the best manner in doing so here in America is by way of entitlements be it a corporation or an individual

Identity politics is destroying this nation because it is governing by collectives and collective demand equal outcomes over merit . They demand you accept abnormalities as normal.

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Yep.. If they fix a road or two I'd be alright with that also..

The only thing we agree upon is that we’re both white males. How do you expect OUR society to take care of our own ? Charitable organizations are not far reaching enough, have limited resources and inconsistent procedures. They don’t have the resources of our government. Like it or not our federal government has taken the reigns in the absence of small town community.


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Let me preface this by saying you have touched upon an aspect of societal obligations that has lost meaning in this nation and hence there is not enough space here to do it justice .

I am very supportive of society's obligation to support those who through no fault of their own truly need support (physical/mentally disabled).

The reality today is that be it a charitable organization or government questionable practices result. government programs all fail and for the obvious reasons

Fraud and abuse is rampant in government programs and the government knows it and ignores it because well after all it is taxpayer money.

I was a big supporter of United Way even back when it was called Community Chest which my mother chaired in our community. However that changed with the revelation of just how much was going to charity and how much to staff especially the president and CEO. We now give only to St Jude

Far too many scams today have damaged the name of "Charitable organization.

Again as to government look what their policy has done, well more to the point not done concerning mental health . The most forgotten people in this nation are those with mental health problems..many of whom live on the streets. Should we even pursue the mishandling of the VA?

As Ronald Reagan so aptly pointed out "the most frightening nine words are , I'm from the government and we're here to help.:)

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