It IS given to non-contributors. When a spouse gets SS based on your SS level, and he/she has never been employed or not enough to be eligible for full benefits, then they are getting money they did not contribute. Those that receive Social Security Disability may be getting money they didn't contribute. You do not have a choice as to whether or not you contribute part of your paycheck to SS or Medicare. It's taken from you, not donated.

In my case, Medicare is wasted money because I will never use it. You pay for 40 years then you get the basic Medicare A which covers hospitalization. Nothing else. You have to pay an additional $100+ for Medicare B to get any more health care benefits. I have private insurance and will never need Medicare, so all that money that I had taken from me is used to pay for someone that never paid into it,,,,,stolen to fund Obamacare.

So, yes SS and medicare is socialist whether we like it or not. In my case, I could have made some pretty good money off of all those deductions. But, when you have a socialist president like.....Roosevelt and Johnson, that's what you get. I'll get my money back, but I doubt it will be around for my children and definitely not the grandchildren. It will be a new program of some sort. Some brainiac will come up with some hair brained idea that will add more to the national debt......like Obamacare.

How about public schools. Explain to me how that is not a socialist program. I don't have kids, but I have to pay for public schools. Teach your own kids to read and write or pay somebody. 12 years of socialism. Then somebody pays out of there own pocket if they want to go further. A lot of people complain about public education, but want vouchers for their kids. I went to public schools. My parents didn't tell me that other people helped pay for my education. When I took out student loans for college, I began to realize what capitalism was all about. I love capitalism, but also understand that some social programs are needed. How many? That's what elections are about.

When we were younger we did not have all the BS about who paid for what. If one could not afford something they did not get it.
And to call the school system a socialist situation is a stretch to make a point.

My preference? Take it back to the way it was....if you did not have the money or if you could not afford something you did not get it.
This entitlement BS is just that BS!!!

And we have a winner....

Socialism is Alive and Well in Your Child

I have no children and yet I pay to fund the public school system. But then again I did go to public schools.

Really, a stretch? The entire country, all the states have FREE public education. Like you said if you don't have the money, you don't get it.

Never had my children in public schools, even though I went to public school. My wife and I worked several jobs so that we could give our four children a decent (private) education, with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence. We never purchased (or could afford) a new car while they were young and didn't mind it a bit. I used to believe in public schooling until faith and patriotism were removed, teachers were banned from disciplining the students, and chaos reigned. Socialism is never successful, and always fails eventually. Whenever the gov is involved in our lives, it degrades the process. You have to be desperate to need or want the government nanny in your lives. Kind of like signing a contract with the Devil. You end up giving up your soul.........and then you are just a liberal..:loco:

Right on! This is BS. If someone doesn't have money for food, clothes, or housing for their families, they should go without it. After all, I am an American Republican!!

Naw, you are Sybil the liberal.

Obviously not every child can go to private schools as your children did, so what do you do with the millions who can't?

Home school!

Hmmmnnnn maybe you lived in a shady school district.

This is a very biaesd and unfair description you put forth for public schools:

"...with less distractions, peer pressure, drug problems, and violence...."

Most of us went to public schools as did our children and were NEVER EVER exposed to or experienced any of those thing.

It had to be where you lived or you just had your mind made up (which is fine) but please do not tar a system that does in fact deserve better than what you use as a basis for your decision!!!

You believed in public education until faith and patriotism were removed? The daily reciting of the Pledge was juste a rote memorization and meant nothing to kids. Faith is left up to Sunday School. Teachers were banned from disciplining kids - good! That is up to parents and not teachers. Teachers can write notes or call parents about their student but not physically disclipine them! Chaos never reigned in the public schools our child went to.

Nothing about being liberal or conservative.

Hate to say it, but I am not sure how else to put it. You obviously don't understand what the children are missing in public schools now.

The Pledge "just a rote memorization?" You don't think that kids learned about the flag and what each component represents? If you don't believe that children learn about patriotism in school, then I'm worried about you and suspect that it is thinking like that that will move our nation toward communism. Yep, I said it.
Faith was removed from school. There was absolutely nothing wrong with having GOD in school. By removing it, banning it from school you don't give the children a choice and you program them to shun religion. I see nothing in the constitution to suggest Freedom From Religion, contrary to what liberals and atheist attempt to suggest. The gov is not allowed to have a state mandated religion, but there is nothing in the constitution that says it may not have religion. For some reason, the liberals/atheists have been able to convince the Supremes that religion in schools is a bad thing. It isn't.
These are age old arguments and I have yet to see a positive gained by removing these things from public schools.
So, you wonder why I put my children in private school? Because they because good, stable adults, never having used drugs or tobacco or abused alcohol. And they are patriotic and are raising their children to be good stable citizens. And my children received a superior education in private school.
In my opinion, if liberals don't like something, then they want it banned for everyone. And yet, they have no problem having the children study Islam in public school. The children cannot wear an American flag but it is OK to wear a Mexican or African flag.
When I suggested teacher discipline, I did not mean corporal punishment. And I am sure you knew that. That is a very lame idea to suggest that a problem child can be disciplined at home via a letter from the principal. I have seen teachers assaulted by teenagers because they knew that the teachers were forbidden to defend themselves.
Sorry, but your false indignity is not the view of the majority.

I always get a kick out of people who are so blinded by their prejudices they think they are the "majority"

If one does not like or believe in the pledge....don't say it.

If one does not like or want to say MERRY CHRISTMAS then don't.

If one does not like to see the Christmas display don't look at it.

If you don't like us saying a prayer in school, at a ball game, at a banquet, etc, you don't have to participate.

If you don't like the 10 Commandments in the court house, don't look at them.

And many more just like it that the minority groups or special interest groups or racial groups or hate groups don't care for.

JUST DON'T TRY TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. If you don't like it here....grin and bear it or shut up and go home!!

The MAJORITY of us still believe in all those things that were OK with the majority when we were growing up. They are still OK with the majority today, but some how the minority, special interest, racial, religious minority groups get an amolified voice and the liberal media and linguine spined administrators cave under the stuois notion of political correctness (lisence for NOT DOING what is right).

We like America the way it was and is in many places.

Believe and support what you want.....JUST STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY AND CHANGE WHAT THE REST OF US ENJOY AS AMERICANS.

I DON'T really get a kick out of listening to a subject of the minority make a lot of noise to cover up for the fact that he is just a small entity in a large group that silently disapproves of him. Just because you make more noise than the majority, does not make you a large group, just a big mouth.

Prejudice defined by your ilk is anyone that you don't agree with.

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And another myth bites the dust...according to Pew research white christians are no longer a majority in the USA however, they continue to be a majority in the Republican party.

And once again you make an erroneous assumption to hear yourself talk about what you wnt to hear.

Nobody said anything about white christians......YOU DID!!!

Go back and read it again!!!!

Careful or you will get a lump of coal tonight!

Merry Christmas (no hidden meanings or between the lines messaging!)......just simply Merry Christmas.

And a simple Merry Christmas to you as well.

CHRISTIANS are still the majority in the U.S.A. = Pew research.

I don't know where you got the "white" part, but Christians are still the majority. Are you really that miserable that you make up stuff to get attention?

All failed economies? The Scandinavian countries are socialist. They are thriving democracies and, by many measures, are more prosperous than we are. Further, socialism did not collapse the Soviet Union. It collapsed because communism was not a viable economic system. There is a difference between socialism and communism.

That Choice do they have
 

I believe that a great deal of voters become democrats because the republications fail to give them a viable alternative. I have never voted democratic but will not vote for any republican that is a self declared Taliban who does not believe that women have the right to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies. Leave my wife and daughters alone and keep an eye on your own families. Right to life = Right to lose.
Libertarian that wants to but cannot be a republican.

Right on!

There is absolutely no reason to legislate abortion. It is up to each woman to make up her own mind - without government interference.

I cannot understand Conservatives who say they want less government but on the other hand want to regulate what each woman should decide.

And for those reasons it is OK with you to default to Clinton?

Surely you can't be serious?

401k and ira must be socialist programs because you are compounding that money without paying taxes, also the taxes you pay ever day are going to companies that are welfare type programs.

All three of those posts are the from the same poster, just conversing with himself because no one else will take his bait. All three, the same liberal troll.

Are you kidding? Do you even know what Socialism is? Obviously not. Go back to school.

Sure....like you have never voted for a Democrat. I am willing to put money down that you have never voted for a Republican. I smell a troll.

Yes, I agree. Murder should not be legislated. There are a few persons that I would like to LEGALLY do a post-natal abortion upon. Darn laws, should not legislate killing people, right? Especially, if the one's murdered are family. Hey, it's our CHOICE, right?

You really ought to do your own research instead of listening to a bumbling old Sanders lie about how great socialism is. If you want read a little about how UN-Socialist those countries are becoming, because of failure, read the link. They also pay a much higher per household tax rate and have a much higher per family debt. Their businesses are not owned by the gov. And they are in some cases LESS progressive than America.

And it is also obvious that you do not know the relationship of socialism with communism. You cannot have communism without socialism.

Here is one link of many that explains the Scandinavian socialism idea and how much of it is myth.

Scandinavia Isn

Much to the Republican/Tea Party's angst, a woman's right to choose is the law of the land - as is same sex marriage! :beer3:

Afraid so. Will not vote for her but will not vote for the Taliban wanabees

You should have said that you would not vote for her, THE Taliban wannabee.

She's the one that is sympathetic to the Terrorists. After all, she is the one that covers for them.

Taking a page out of her old boss's (Obama) book!:laugh:

Social Security Returns
 

Social Security is its name and social security was its game and this social program was designed by Democrats and passed by a Democratic President.
Some believe that the returns will be more than the contribution but they will not because compared to a personal and modest savings vehicle the returns are much less. As to SSDI I have no problem having my taxes applied to people in TRUE need of help. However the problem with SSDI and our welfare system is abuse and government employees don't seem to care.

In Denmark for instances people only take what they need. However we have far too many people that want free stuff and believe they deserve more and the best. I met a guy from Denmark who moved to The villages and I asked him why. He said he was tired of his government helping itself to is hard earned money

Next slide please.............

It was another great Democrat (Johnson) that gave us more welfare programs that gut people's earnings and let people live off the dole

Democrats and their over reach created great inequities by establishing for protected classes meaning that they decided who advanced and who did not, who could enroll in a university and who could not etc etc etc

Woman's right to choose. Interesting take, plays out like a civil right doesn't it. So a woman chooses to be free with her body and then she chooses again to decide what to do with the unintended consequences. Some call it an accident, others a baby . so now we have many women who use this right to abort many times over because they have had many times over these accidents. Ironically the majority are black women.

Could you imagine what people, especially Democrats would say if a programs was legally devised to abort black babies in order to keep the black population from growing? Why there is such a program and it goes under the name of Doe v Wade.

Same sex marriage also played out as a civil right again a faux right but well any port in a storm. They had all the equal rights as heterosexuals , had no bars to work places, schools, military, etc , but what they wanted was validation that their act was normal and the re-definition of marriage. And so they now continue their campaign to wipe out gender under the "new normal" moniker. and let's no forget that all around this country people are going to jail or paying fines or having their businesses closed down if they refuse to be a part of their campaign to wipe out gender.


Personal Best Regards:

Yes, it is the law, thank goodness!!! You tea partiers can whine all you want, but it isn't going to change things. :pepper2:

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