For every job lost because of jobs going overseas we loose a consumer. I feel that we need to put an import tax or tariff on everything coming in that would make it equal to the cost to make it right here. I can't find fault with playing on a level field.

why don't we just stop the jobs from going overseas? get rid of nafta? get the unions to take pay/benefit cuts?

to increase the tax/tariff on all that is imported would not meet the intent to create a world economy and help those nations that are trying to improve their economic status. it would be un-american to do so!

p.s. why did the jobs go overseas to begin with - who let those dogs out?

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A 35% tariff on Chinese tire imports was recently imposed by Obama to please one of his biggest campaign contributors, the United Steelworkers Union. By doing this, Obama is risking a trade war with China, the US's second largest trading partner. He is also risking the stability of the international economy with this reckless move of Protectionism.

President Obama may or may not know--or may not care--but the Smoot-Hawley Tariffs (the Tariff Act of 1930), which was enacted in response to populist fear (much like Progressive ideology today) during the 1930's served to prolong and worsen the Great Depression. As a result, of these tafiffs the world economy did not recover until after WWII.

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Now thats more like it, 50/50. One for getting the jobs back in the US and one for keeping them overseas. Now this is a healthy discussion.

Originally Posted by Lou Card

Now thats more like it, 50/50. One for getting the jobs back in the US and one for keeping them overseas. Now this is a healthy discussion.

I saw NOBODY support having those jobs overseas and I think the NAFTA and the unions pretty much sews it up.

Cost of doing business in this country is so high in manufacturing and the unions want the money AND want the jobs. We have NAFTA, which Clinton thought was wonderful...it has certainly raised the standard of living in Mexico and China for two countries but not so much in the USA !

This is the one place I can count on to have members at least as old as I am..

Does anyone remember the "cheap imports from Japan" rallying cry in the 60s and 70s?

Remember when it became Korea?

Does it sound the same as how the cry now goes up about China?

I saw a series of reports called "The People's Republic of Capitalism" on Discovery a couple of years ago. You will NEVER hear me moan about Chinese workers after seeing what they came from and are going towards.

Yes, times are tough here, but I'm reminded of an argument a couple of decades ago about whether or not an auto-worker should feel entitled to get the then-princely sum of $25/hour to put a left door handle on a Chevy. You DO have to evolve.

We got complacent. Because we were the only industrialized society left standing in 1945 we got fat, happy and lazy as the world had only us to go to for finished goods. We didn't have to compete - and it's competition that made us the best in the world.

Now we have to compete - and sometimes the deck is stacked against us. But as my best friend says "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". Some companies are discovering that those customer service reps that they outsorced to India are giving their companies VERY bad reputations.

I lost my job and had no prospects in 2004. I decided to put my nose back to the grindstone and, at my own expense (borrowed but now paid), got myself re-trained and my skills updated (cost me over $20,000). Now my career is on MUCH better footing and I'm remembering to keep teaching myself new things.

So we decided to buy cheap CD players form China that break down in a year or two. We paid peanuts. We got monkeys.

There's more here than simple slogans and platitudes can cover.

of a job and down on your mortgage you can always eat your import.

No manufacturing = no jobs....it is pretty simple.

There is, anymore, absolutely no reason to not buy an American automobile...
NONE!!

We became a great nation by making everything and employing the multitudes.
We now manufacture/make very little by comparison, hence the jobs are gone.

There is NO mystery to job loss...we the people did it....allowed it....continue to do it...continue to allow it.

Very simple!

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

of a job and down on your mortgage you can always eat your import.

No manufacturing = no jobs....it is pretty simple.

There is, anymore, absolutely no reason to not buy an American automobile...
NONE!!

We became a great nation by making everything and employing the multitudes.
We now manufacture/make very little by comparison, hence the jobs are gone.

There is NO mystery to job loss...we the people did it....allowed it....continue to do it...continue to allow it.

Very simple!

btk

Describe "American" automobile and tell us how many Americans work at auto factories in US that isn't "American." How many of those factories employee union "workers?"

This is pretty interesting. An interactive graphic (story in the link below) that shows vehicles built in the United States in 2009.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...-plants-4.html


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/au...s/21intro.html

As usual. I could not find the total of union vs. non-union workers in the American plants.

So my Camry, that was built in Kentucky - what does THAT qualify as?

Built by American workers.

What about my old Dodge Intrepid and my ex-wife's Caravan? They were built in Canada.

Originally Posted by djplong

So my Camry, that was built in Kentucky - what does THAT qualify as?

Built by American workers.

What about my old Dodge Intrepid and my ex-wife's Caravan? They were built in Canada.

What do you mean djplong "what does THAT qualify as?"
I'm missing something. Maybe I skipped something in the thread.