Democrats are not just the party of "NO", they are the radicals that believe that violence is OK against their own fellow Americans. Democrats are enemies of Democracy and Freedom, therefore they are the enemies of America. Sounds harsh, but they are proving it blatantly every day since the election. Waters (James Brown hair) says she will try to get Trump impeached every day. She is just one stupid elected that says Trump is evil and should be impeached. NOT ONE of them has ever suggested WHY he should be impeached, only that he must be removed. They would even support a felon like Hillary, just so they can be winners. They even supported a Socialist in their party, which is Anti-American. The old Democrat party is dead and the new Anti-American Socialist or commie party has replaced it. And our liberal democrat friends are still using OLD liberal talking points.

60% of the Rs will vote straight R no matter what. 60% of the Ds will vote straight D no matter what. 40% of the population is what's up for grabs...NOT that it matters because ALL the candidates are shills.

Not much different from religion where they simply "believe" no matter what.

No offense, but this is a perfect example of a partisan post. You think everything is the fault of the Democrats and call them the party of NO. But that is exactly what the Republicans did during the Obama term in office. They obstructed every major effort of his Presidency. They were referred to by the press and others as the Party of NO. Like most people, you are just so partisan you can't see any fault on your own party. Not only do Ds and Rs not work together, but they don't even like each other. It wasn't always that way.

Horse****.

I have voted both parties and now I can hardly stomach either one.

I am tired of people being purchased. I don't fit either party. I am much more traditional, much more patriotic and much less religious than I have been in the past. I think I have lots of company.

"Horsesh!t"?

You're part of the 40% that's all.

Come in Gracie...you're smarter than that.

Patriotic? Towards what? Your country has changed...it isn't #1 any more. It isn't "white" any more. It ISN'T great any more. It's going to be Mexico II within 30 years. IF you want to be "patriotic", help me to SAVE the America WE loved. It IS changing and not for the better...we're down to #25 and falling...

Of course, it's a partisan post. I'm mostly conservative and I have nothing in common with today's socialists that muck about under the guise of the Democrat label.

Yes, Obama did see opposition. Opposition to his radical agenda. Opposition with a purpose of doing their jobs, not just radical protests and demonstrations like a bunch of kids. Congress has a job to do and they are not there to fight the person. Schumer and ilk are fighting the person (Trump) not the agenda. It is not ideology with the left now. It's an agenda of furthering anarchy. The left has turned into a protest against law and order. A protest against anything that resembles morality and a protest against ethics.

For once, we have a president in D.C. that actually does not NEED the job but wants to make a difference to our country. The left does not protest his agenda, but just him. They don't like him, thus he has to go. He is not ONE of them, so he has to go. The old Democratic party was my family's party, but has disappeared to be replaced by an anti-American, shadow or bizorro image of what the party once stood for. It's a shame. But, now the Democrat party (in name only) is the enemy of America and the American way.

Obama received opposition to his socialist agenda. Good for the minority party that probably saved America from totally going bankrupt. Obama wished only to give someone else's money away, regardless of the consequences.

The Republican party is not perfect, but it has received a wake up call, in the form of Trump. In the old days, little towns hired gunslingers to clean up the town. Once the town was free of criminals, the gunslinger was an embarrassment that they wished to run out of town. The gov has been known to hire computer hackers to fix their security leaks. The point is that Trump may not fit the mold of diplomat, but he is definitely what America needs right now.

Just as an experiment related to the topic of this thread, exactly how far does your partisanship go? For example, are you troubled at all by:

1. The alleged Russian connections to the Trump Campaign?
2. The flip flopping on issues from the Trump Campaign to the Trump Presidency? (like who pays for the wall, NATO, China as a currency manipulator, healthcare will be better and cheaper, Muslim ban, prosecuting Hillary Clinton, Janet Yellin, etc)
3. The late night tweeting?
4. The accusations of Trump Tower being wire tapped?
5. The narcissism?
6. The bashing of Goldman Sachs and then hiring so many former GS execs to serve in the cabinet?
7. The outright lies that Trump tells, which his staff calls "alternative facts" and refuses to address in press briefings, and tells us that we can not take him literally?

So, I get your partisanship, but could any of these issues actually change your mind about our current POTUS?

I think the answer to your last question...is pretty clear regarding a number of posters here.

"NOTHING will change my love for Chump!" :oops:

That they embrace and worship his narcissism, lying, simpleton views and wealth...has been pretty well established by now. :ohdear:

The strongest connection they have with Trump, is a personality defect of being incapable...of admitting they are ever wrong.

And they probably brag about grabbing women by the ......

I know you did not ask me but I thought you had some good questions and wanted to offer my answers.

1. The alleged Russian connections to the Trump Campaign? I think it is bull$hit political chatter to undermine his win. I feel our own media tried to influence the election!!

2. The flip flopping on issues from the Trump Campaign to the Trump Presidency? (like who pays for the wall, NATO, China as a currency manipulator, healthcare will be better and cheaper, Muslim ban, prosecuting Hillary Clinton, Janet Yellin, etc) I sometime change my mind on large expenditures and sometimes it is not financially feasible , It would be hypocritical of me to have a problem with a change in plans.

3. The late night tweeting? I don't stay up late and I don't tweet. If you or Trump are into that - have at it.

4. The accusations of Trump Tower being wire tapped? The fat lady has not sung on this. My initial thoughts were he was misinformed by someone that works for him or we are being misinformed from someone that worked for Obamma (Rice).

5. The narcissism? That's your diagnosis, not sure you are qualified to make it...if you are, I suspect you might be your best client.

6. The bashing of Goldman Sachs and then hiring so many former GS execs to serve in the cabinet? It must not be as easy to find financially talented people as Trump thought it was and you think it is?

7. The outright lies that Trump tells, which his staff calls "alternative facts" and refuses to address in press briefings, and tells us that we can not take him literally? I have no confidence in the media today, if you do - have at it. I think the media got egg on their face trying to make Crooked Hillary president and they are upset about his ability to cut them out of the process


So, I get your partisanship, but could any of these issues actually change your mind about our current POTUS? I really doubt it. I felt Obamma was a POS and Crooked Hillary would be more Obamma...I was not going to waste my vote on a person that could not garner more than 1% of the nation's votes...so Trump is the best option we had. I am happy with his progress and disapointed with the anti Trump crap.





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Excellent post! There is no use for me to answer those questions, when you have pretty much covered them with answers that I concur with.

The left still insists on attacking the person rather than the agenda or any policies. They still don't seem to understand that their party is circling the drain and they are simply paddling the boat to speed it up.

I respect your answer and appreciate that you took the time to respond to my questions. Seriously, I truly mean that. We many disagree, but we can still respect each other's right to express an opinion. I wouldn't ask if I didn't want an answer. Your responses give this thread some significant insight into it's topic, which is political partisanship. So in the spirit of further study of partisanship:

May I follow up? Let's forget about Obama and Clinton as they are not the President of the United States.

1. So then, are you in favor of the Congress continuing to investigate the Russian connection to the 2016 elections? Why or why not?

2. So, you forgive financial feasibility mistakes. I'm ok with that, but what about the other issues I list? Do we forgive those too?

3. Like you, I don't tweet. Twitter is not my thing. I've been known to stay up late, but not usually. Now that those issues are resolved, the reason I ask is that tweets are public and when the POTUS speaks publically, it matters, right? So, if he states national policy in tweets, or accuses someone of deeds with no proof of those accusations being true, is that a problem?

4. I think from your response that you, like me, want to continue to investigate this matter to determine the truth. If we find that Trump had no basis for the accusation, does he owe former President Obama an apology, and should the Twitter account of the POTUS be shut down?

5. What makes you think I'm a narcissist? I'm really curious on that one. And I didn't diagnose Trump as a narcissist, as you correctly state that I am not qualified. That diagnosis has been done by numerous other qualified analysts writing in national publications. Are those all lies?
A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality - The Atlantic

6. Do all the financially talented people in the US work at, or formerly worked at Goldman Sachs? Just seems ironic that he accused Secretary Clinton of being bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs as a reason to not vote for her, and then he hires so many of the GS alumni. Is that alright with the people who voted for him based on his campaign statements?
Trump used to hate Goldman Sachs. What happened?

7. As for the "alternative facts," the untruths have been pretty well documented. Is this OK?
'Alternative Facts': The Needless Lies of the Trump Administration - The Atlantic

Your problem is that you are STILL attacking the person and not the policies/agenda. You did not question Obama's background, you just voted for him. You did not question his associations with radicals, including the domestic bomber, and his foreign ties to his WWII criminal donor. You are the hypocrite that you accuse others of being. Before you ask your silly questions, why don't you ask yourself what your motivation is for attacking the president AFTER he has been elected.

AMERICA is circling the drain...they DON'T realize it is their policies and the RAPID rise in the minority population that is causing it. By encouraging minorities they ARE speeding it up.

OK, I don't have a problem. I'm just trying to participate in a discussion about why America is so politically partisan, and if you don't like my opinions about that topic then that is your problem, not mine. If you think my questions are "silly" then ignore them, but someone needs to answer them. The questions were posed to demonstrate that there is partisanship on both sides of the political aisle and not just from the Democrats. If that is wrong, then answer the questions. I'm not attacking the POTUS, but I have every right to oppose his policies, and unlike you, I can do that without hating him or resorting to ridiculous accusations that have no basis in fact.