Originally Posted by Guest

OOPS

"WASHINGTON — Emails that a longtime confidant to Hillary Rodham Clinton recently handed over to the House committee investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, raise new questions about whether the State Department and Mrs. Clinton have complied with a series of requests from the panel.

The emails, provided by Sidney Blumenthal, a close adviser to Mrs. Clinton, include information about weapons that were circulating in Libya and about the security situation in Benghazi in the year and a half before the attacks. The committee has asked the State Department and Mrs. Clinton several times in the past year for emails from her and other department officials about “weapons located or found in” Libya and about the decision to open and maintain a diplomatic mission in Benghazi."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/us...ibya.html?_r=0

How much can she actually stretch the truth on this stuff ?

You have to give Hillary credit ... she is absolutely one of the best and most deceitful liars out there. She is truly in a league of her own. The fact that she is dishonest and untrustworthy is actually no longer debatable ... it's pretty much been documented.

Now the only question is whether an immigrant-stuffed ballot box and large cities full of brain dead Dem voters are sufficient to put her over the top.

I don't believe there is any question that there are enough votes to elect her. Most people either don't care about her lack of character or are blissfully uninformed. I recommend hunkering down because it is going to be a rough ride. Hopefully the Republicans will maintain control of Congress and can minimize the damage she can do. A Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio ticket could be a winner.

Originally Posted by Guest

You have to give Hillary credit ... she is absolutely one of the best and most deceitful liars out there. She is truly in a league of her own. The fact that she is dishonest and untrustworthy is actually no longer debatable ... it's pretty much been documented.

Now the only question is whether an immigrant-stuffed ballot box and large cities full of brain dead Dem voters are sufficient to put her over the top.

It is hard to believe that Hillary is the best Progressive Liberal that the Democrats have to offer....


Many people who may vote in the democratic primary election, if there is one and the general election in 2016 have no real knowledge of Mrs. Clinton or her accomplishments. As a public service, I thought I would provide some input regarding her triumphs for consideration.

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the “bimbo eruption” and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:

• She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
• She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million
Dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

• Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for lying under oath to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

• Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.

• After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, China, and artwork that she had stolen.

Other than that, she did an outstanding job.

Greate post,a strong woman who allowed her husband to cheat their whole marriage,forgot that

Originally Posted by Guest

It is hard to believe that Hillary is the best Progressive Liberal that the Democrats have to offer....


Many people who may vote in the democratic primary election, if there is one and the general election in 2016 have no real knowledge of Mrs. Clinton or her accomplishments. As a public service, I thought I would provide some input regarding her triumphs for consideration.

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the “bimbo eruption” and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:

• She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
• She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million
Dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

• Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for lying under oath to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

• Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.

• After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, China, and artwork that she had stolen.

Other than that, she did an outstanding job.

Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

Originally Posted by Guest

Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

Especially the simpletons in The Villages Tea Bag Club.

Originally Posted by Guest

Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

I would love to respond to your hateful and inaccurate, uninformed post, but because my heart aches for those folks in South Carolina, I will simply ask you to at least try to stop hating, get informed and do not allow what you think are appropriate words to guide you.

I am just sick of this hate. It is not the politics, it is not race, it is hate within us, and your simple little barb, with no intelligent response is indicative of what I am saying.

Why can we not have discourse on issues without the hate. Your posts NEVER EVER actually address anything of substance. It is one name being called after another.

The issue in SC really weighs on me, as to what hate can do...how it eats at you.

Discourse with statements based on facts AND opinion, but never devoid of facts is important to all of us. Simply calling names is just destructive.

Originally Posted by Guest

Especially the simpletons in The Villages Tea Bag Club.

It would be something if you offered just one item as inaccurate or as many as you can leading you to disagree without just calling out a name.

Originally Posted by Guest

Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

WOW.......somebody's in big time denial!

Originally Posted by Guest

I would love to respond to your hateful and inaccurate, uninformed post, but because my heart aches for those folks in South Carolina, I will simply ask you to at least try to stop hating, get informed and do not allow what you think are appropriate words to guide you.

I am just sick of this hate. It is not the politics, it is not race, it is hate within us, and your simple little barb, with no intelligent response is indicative of what I am saying.

Why can we not have discourse on issues without the hate. Your posts NEVER EVER actually address anything of substance. It is one name being called after another.

...and where were your posts of outrage when liberals were diagnosed with mental illness by a poster or when a poster had a comparison of Pres. Obama's ears to a monkey's ears?

Do those posts add anything of substance? Both of those posters are examples of simpletons.

Originally Posted by Guest

...and where were your posts of outrage when liberals were diagnosed with mental illness by a poster or when a poster had a comparison of Pres. Obama's ears to a monkey's ears?

Do those posts add anything of substance? Both of those posters are examples of simpletons.

You need to brush up on your reading and comprehension skills. It appears that you are looking for something to hate.

Nobody agrees with what you disagree with, and you know it.

I am so sick and tired of this race thing; it is fostered and is now a political item, and it should not be.

I will say to your comment relative to "mental illness" and at the same time offer you a challenge.

I have so many friends who are Democrats and "liberals" I KNOW the fallacy of that ridiculous statement, but offer you this challenge....

Just on TOTV show me a post from a liberal poster that identifies an issue, discusses it and comes to a conclusion so another poster may comment.

You will be hard pressed. On here and many times in the national stage, posts or comments are met with a simple cry of racist. I have been called that many many times, but just on this forum. Why ? Because I oppose this issue or another supported by ou President. That is the sole reason, ONLY BECAUSE I DISAGREED ON A NON RACE ISSUE...

I, for one,have tired of it...I, for one would welcome a post grounded in facts, with no inclusion of a network or race accusation, just based on facts.

That just does not happen on here..ever and thus...

Originally Posted by Guest

Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

Your mind is welded shut to any semblance of truth entering it.

Therefore, I hereby CHALLENGE you to review the content of post #348 and find ANYTHING that is inaccurate. Do some research, instead of reverting to the oh so predictable liberal name calling. You'll discover the information in the post is accurate and truthful.

You will then need to decide if you will simply continue to be a truth denier and name caller, or .... (and this is a stretch) recognize the sordid past of a very incompetent, dishonest and amoral woman named Clinton.

Originally Posted by Guest

Your mind is welded shut to any semblance of truth entering it.

Therefore, I hereby CHALLENGE you to review the content of post #348 and find ANYTHING that is inaccurate. Do some research, instead of reverting to the oh so predictable liberal name calling. You'll discover the information in the post is accurate and truthful.

You will then need to decide if you will simply continue to be a truth denier and name caller, or .... (and this is a stretch) recognize the sordid past of a very incompetent, dishonest and amoral woman named Clinton.

Stop with the name calling and hatred.

Liberal or Conservative? I haven't seen this much anger since the McCarthy era.
I personally think that a moderate Republican will be the next President. In a democracy the candidate has to appeal to the electorate not just the true believers who are often blinded by passion and ideology.

Originally Posted by Guest

Liberal or Conservative? I haven't seen this much anger since the McCarthy era.
I personally think that a moderate Republican will be the next President. In a democracy the candidate has to appeal to the electorate not just the true believers who are often blinded by passion and ideology.

You are correct, and the ideologues continue to look for someone to blame in a political manner, instead of looking at themselves a bit, and listening.

This applies to both idealogys so please do not try to trap this post and make it mean something it does not.