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Guest 03-05-2016 02:22 PM

You know very well that the RNC will not allow Trump to get to be the nominee.

I would bet an ice cold Yeungling that it will go to a brokered convention and Mitt Romney will come out to be the savior of the Republicans. :a20:

This, of course, will infuriate Trump and he will go Independent. :a20:

The Republican vote will be split between Romney and Trump. :a20:

Hillary wins! The USA wins! :wave:

Guest 03-05-2016 02:30 PM

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You know very well that the RNC will not allow Trump to get to be the nominee.

I would bet an ice cold Yeungling that it will go to a brokered convention and Mitt Romney will come out to be the savior of the Republicans. :a20:

This, of course, will infuriate Trump and he will go Independent. :a20:

The Republican vote will be split between Romney and Trump. :a20:

Hillary wins! The USA wins! :wave:

if goes to convention and I doubt it will......if brokered will be lots of violence.

Why ? Have you seen the rallies that are heated, non flexible and hateful. Followers are unreasonable, and as he brags uneducated with NO idea of what he is saying TRUELY.

Will resemble 1964 and 1968 for violence. Republican party if even survives will take forever to come back.

If Trump gets nod or even not if brokered, Democrats take over congress for many years (TRUMP FOLLOWERS THINK THEY ARE VOTING FOR A KING WHO LASTS UNTIL DEATH).

H Clinton win is NOT a win for America. It will be simply a continuation of 8 more years of Obama.

Trump followers are trying to enact vengeance on Obama...they are doing just the opposite.

Trump has NO chance of beating Clinton, repub or independent

Guest 03-05-2016 02:39 PM

TO TRUMP FOLLOWERS

Allow me to add a bit to why Trump cannot beat Clinton.

If you payed any attention you saw last debate how flustered Trump was and noticed the next day was walking back so many things.

That is because the smaller the field the more issue driven everything becomes. All his bravado will mean nothing if he cannot talk the issues, which he is absolutely sans knowledge or working ability to do so.

When it is he and her, she wins and wins big. Now you will say...oh, he will bring out that ....what ? The other women...not news guys.....what ? On the other hand, lets hear Trump bragging about screwing married women while he was married...YOU WILL. Lets hear Trump "making deals using colorful racist language....YOU WILL. If you think the ads on Trump Univ are bad...stand by.....you will hear much more.

Now...bottom line is....you folks who are supporting Trump because he "seems" like he will do this and that to reverse Obama....NO CHANCE.

All you are doing is assuring Clinton is elected and more of the same PLUS and please do not forget how our country is run,....REPUBLICANS LOSE CONGRESS !!!!

Guest 03-05-2016 07:38 PM

Any Villagers travel to Orlando and raise your hand at his command to swear allegiance ?

That picture of followers with hand raised, swearing allegiance took me back in history a bit and gave me shudders.

Guest 03-05-2016 09:10 PM

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Any Villagers travel to Orlando and raise your hand at his command to swear allegiance ?

That picture of followers with hand raised, swearing allegiance took me back in history a bit and gave me shudders.

I thought you were kidding.
Trump asks rally attendees to swear to vote for him | TheHill

What past presidents or candidates have also asked for a pledge of allegiance?

Guest 03-05-2016 10:38 PM

It appears the consensus is that Donald Trump cannot beat Hillary Clinton in the general election.

Guest 03-06-2016 12:25 AM

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It appears the consensus is that Donald Trump cannot beat Hillary Clinton in the general election.

You mean apparition don't you?

March 2008 some had the same apparition!

By June she was blown out by an unknown black with questionable issues.

She was less tarnished of character back then.

Enjoy your self gratification.......in the meantime.

Guest 03-06-2016 06:05 AM

Even though I prefer Rubio over the other two candidates, I believe that if Rubio and Kasich would drop out, Cruz could beat Trump. Cruz can also beat Hillary according to the polls. Trump may not be able to beat Hillary. We do have to be realistic, and we may have to choose the less of evils. Out of Trump, Cruz, Hillary and Sanders, Cruz is the lesser of evils. Just being pragmatic. I do not like Cruz, but at least he IS a Constitutionalist. That is much more safer than an ignorant gambling businessman or one of two socialists. It is my opinion that this is not Rubio's time and he has been too damaged in this campaign to be a viable candidate. A brokered convention will only destroy the Republican party, which is a governor on the speed this country goes in the direction of socialism.

Guest 03-06-2016 07:24 AM

Listen up again. Hillary will be ruled out. I like Sanders but no way does he become President. Kasich is a good man but something is missing because he does not connect with the voter. Now take out Cruz because of two reasons, first he can't get along with many or any in our government and more importantly as a Constitutionalist don't you think he should sit down because he is not qualified because of his citizenship? Next the little instigator Little Marco, he is a disrespectful man who is trying to bait the candidate he is the most jealous of with his taunting of Trump. Rubio & Cruz both talk about the entrepreneurial spirit of their parents when they got started in this country and how far they have come yet criticize President Trump for the same spirit because he has had many business failures.
Take a minute and listen to Mark Cuban talk about the failures he has encountered on his way to becoming a billionaire it is very telling in that the entrepreneurial spirit expects failure of some businesses. These people are wired differently than us regular people. A failure to most people means stop trying because you may fail again, to them it means get up dust off try something different. Trump has used the LAW of the Bankruptcy courts of the USA to his advantage. Why wouldn't he? To impress someone? I don't think so. I think Trump is a good choice and if he isn't we'll give him the hook in 4 year's. With good behavior and a nice judge Hillary should be getting our rite about then. She can dust her morally bankrupt self off and run again...oops no felon's in the WH.

Guest 03-06-2016 08:00 AM

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I thought you were kidding.
Trump asks rally attendees to swear to vote for him | TheHill

What past presidents or candidates have also asked for a pledge of allegiance?

I don't recall Obama ASKING for a pledge, but he sure had children singing songs about him in elementary school. And of course, the Germans loved him.

Guest 03-06-2016 08:06 AM

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I don't recall Obama ASKING for a pledge, but he sure had children singing songs about him in elementary school. And of course, the Germans loved him.

The Germans seem to hate Trump. I wonder why?

Guest 03-06-2016 08:07 AM

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The Germans seem to hate Trump. I wonder why?

Donald Trump Looms Large

And a link.

Guest 03-06-2016 08:07 AM

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Listen up again. Hillary will be ruled out. I like Sanders but no way does he become President. Kasich is a good man but something is missing because he does not connect with the voter. Now take out Cruz because of two reasons, first he can't get along with many or any in our government and more importantly as a Constitutionalist don't you think he should sit down because he is not qualified because of his citizenship? Next the little instigator Little Marco, he is a disrespectful man who is trying to bait the candidate he is the most jealous of with his taunting of Trump. Rubio & Cruz both talk about the entrepreneurial spirit of their parents when they got started in this country and how far they have come yet criticize President Trump for the same spirit because he has had many business failures.
Take a minute and listen to Mark Cuban talk about the failures he has encountered on his way to becoming a billionaire it is very telling in that the entrepreneurial spirit expects failure of some businesses. These people are wired differently than us regular people. A failure to most people means stop trying because you may fail again, to them it means get up dust off try something different. Trump has used the LAW of the Bankruptcy courts of the USA to his advantage. Why wouldn't he? To impress someone? I don't think so. I think Trump is a good choice and if he isn't we'll give him the hook in 4 year's. With good behavior and a nice judge Hillary should be getting our rite about then. She can dust her morally bankrupt self off and run again...oops no felon's in the WH.

I haven't seen any proof of Cruz not being a citizen. Since half of what Trump says is BS, and he is the only one that suggested that Cruz is not legal, I think I'll wait until the jury returns a verdict or I see something substantial that shows that he might not be a citizen before I count him out. I don't care for either Trump or Cruz, but since my preferences have no chance at participating in the general election, I'll hold my nose and vote for Cruz, since between the two of them, he is more likely to beat Hillary. And Hillary has not been carted off to jail yet, and may not be until after the election. Then, Obama will surely pardon her and she will reign as the next tyrant-in-charge. Trump is still talking like a high school cyber bully, like a Democrat, and is not presidential at all. Of course, the present occupier in the White House is not presidential either, so that is not saying a whole lot. .

Guest 03-06-2016 08:08 AM

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The Germans seem to hate Trump. I wonder why?

Because they don't consider him to be a socialist?

Guest 03-06-2016 09:24 AM

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The Germans seem to hate Trump. I wonder why?

He reminds them of someone from their past.

Guest 03-06-2016 09:36 AM

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The Germans seem to hate Trump. I wonder why?

Any politician, person, religion or country that fears what he stands for and possible disrupt what they have, do or say!!

Guest 03-06-2016 11:01 AM

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The Germans seem to hate Trump. I wonder why?

Because he wants to tax their imports?
Because he might cause more Muslim migration when we reject them from coming here?
Because he is not gay? ?????

Guest 03-06-2016 11:04 AM

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Because he wants to tax their imports?
Because he might cause more Muslim migration when we reject them from coming here?
Because he is not gay? ?????

Boy you folks have really had too much of the kool aid.

Trump cannot, nor will not get close to what you think he might

I they don't like Trump, in Germany, it is because he reminds them of a past leader of theirs that they would like to forget.

Now raise your hands and pledge your allegiance.

AS they say...."a sucker born every minute"

Guest 03-06-2016 11:06 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ce-in-orlando/

If when you look at this picture of him and his followers with their hands in a familiar angle to the sky, it should give you shudders.

Guest 03-06-2016 11:20 AM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ce-in-orlando/

If when you look at this picture of him and his followers with their hands in a familiar angle to the sky, it should give you shudders.

Yes, like no one else has raised their hands before.......ooops!

Guest 03-06-2016 11:48 AM

I think the main reason people like Trump is that he can, and will, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN!

Kasich and Cruz watch things happen.

Sanders, Clinton, Rubio, Romney and Bush wonder.... 'What the heck just happened'?

Guest 03-06-2016 12:00 PM

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I think the main reason people like Trump is that he can, and will, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN!

Kasich and Cruz watch things happen.

Sanders, Clinton, Rubio, Romney and Bush wonder.... 'What the heck just happened'?

Simply said....

What he is promising you, he cannot do. Only congress and his nomination will cinch his party losing congress.

He will not be King, simply a President who is ONE part of our system.

WAKE up....READ...he cannot do it...he is playing you

Guest 03-06-2016 12:02 PM

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Yes, like no one else has raised their hands before.......ooops!

Can you find a story or picture of ANY person in our history ever asking folks at a rally to raise their hands and swear allegiance to THEM...not our country, not our Lord, but to THEM as an individual ?

Guest 03-06-2016 12:25 PM

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Can you find a story or picture of ANY person in our history ever asking folks at a rally to raise their hands and swear allegiance to THEM...not our country, not our Lord, but to THEM as an individual ?

Do I care??? And you really ought to research your talking points. He did NOT ask them to swear allegiance to him. Of course, someone told you this so that you could parrot what they told you. He simply had them swear to vote for him. I have seen similar instances of this in church. I have seen this in many different occasion where the leader asked folks to raise their hand for one reason or another. I don't have a problem with it and I don't even intend to vote for him. Liberals will fault him for this and yet totally support a woman that left Americans out to dry and die, allow uncleared personnel access to Top Secret information, mishandle classified information, is guilty of tax fraud, etc, etc. So, as much as you want to make this a big deal, it simply is not. And I am sure that you understand the concept of simply.

Guest 03-06-2016 12:33 PM

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Simply said....

What he is promising you, he cannot do. Only congress and his nomination will cinch his party losing congress.

He will not be King, simply a President who is ONE part of our system.

WAKE up....READ...he cannot do it...he is playing you

He's not playing me at all. I'm simply saying he undoubtedly has leadership ability, and way more than anyone else running on either ticket. The politicians truly are talk, talk, talk and zero action.

That's why it's pretty clear to most of us, you excepted, that Trump offers e best chance to indeed make things happen. Our system separates power by design so it takes leadership to get people together to actually do something. Obama by contrast is passive and mainly plays golf and gives really good hot air speeches.

Guest 03-06-2016 12:34 PM

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Can you find a story or picture of ANY person in our history ever asking folks at a rally to raise their hands and swear allegiance to THEM...not our country, not our Lord, but to THEM as an individual ?

You missed the point of what Trump was doing. Go sit in the dunce corner for a bit then review the tape again.

Guest 03-06-2016 12:38 PM

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You missed the point of what Trump was doing. Go sit in the dunce corner for a bit then review the tape again.

I'll second that. I think that protester needs a gov subsidized nanny to comfort him.

Guest 03-06-2016 12:56 PM

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You missed the point of what Trump was doing. Go sit in the dunce corner for a bit then review the tape again.

NOBODY missed the point of what he was doing.

Guest 03-06-2016 01:11 PM

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NOBODY missed the point of what he was doing.

Apparently the person that brought it up, missed the point. But, crybabies are crybabies.

Guest 03-06-2016 01:31 PM

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He's not playing me at all. I'm simply saying he undoubtedly has leadership ability, and way more than anyone else running on either ticket. The politicians truly are talk, talk, talk and zero action.

That's why it's pretty clear to most of us, you excepted, that Trump offers e best chance to indeed make things happen. Our system separates power by design so it takes leadership to get people together to actually do something. Obama by contrast is passive and mainly plays golf and gives really good hot air speeches.

The man is hated by many people is his recently adopted party as well as many in his abandoned party. The man will do anything and say anything to get elected. How is he going to get anything at all done in Washington, DC. This is a place with its own working rules and logic which usually only the insiders know how to pull the strings well.

Guest 03-06-2016 04:16 PM

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The man is hated by many people is his recently adopted party as well as many in his abandoned party. The man will do anything and say anything to get elected. How is he going to get anything at all done in Washington, DC. This is a place with its own working rules and logic which usually only the insiders know how to pull the strings well.

Maybe he is hated by a lot of people. Maybe the GOP has over a 50% increase in voter turnout because they hate him. Maybe the Dem's have a historic light voter turn out because they love Hillary so much that they feel they don't even need to vote her in. She will be coronated. And perhaps, Billy Clinton is still a virgin. :a20:

Guest 03-06-2016 04:25 PM

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Maybe he is hated by a lot of people. Maybe the GOP has over a 50% increase in voter turnout because they hate him. Maybe the Dem's have a historic light voter turn out because they love Hillary so much that they feel they don't even need to vote her in. She will be coronated. And perhaps, Billy Clinton is still a virgin. :a20:

Depends on his definition of "sex"

Guest 03-06-2016 04:29 PM

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Maybe he is hated by a lot of people. Maybe the GOP has over a 50% increase in voter turnout because they hate him. Maybe the Dem's have a historic light voter turn out because they love Hillary so much that they feel they don't even need to vote her in. She will be coronated. And perhaps, Billy Clinton is still a virgin. :a20:

What does this post even mean ?

Poster made the point that nobody will work with him and that everyone, including his own party, oppose him personally, his character, and his positions.

So please, you replied to a poster who simply stated facts. What does it mean ?

The most "trump friendly" pundits, all the polls suggest not only will he get beaten..no wait..thrashed in the general, but cause congress to go to Democrats.

I am a conservative and it hurts me to say these things, but are you paying attention to anything beyond what he says ?

Guest 03-06-2016 04:43 PM

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What does this post even mean ?

Poster made the point that nobody will work with him and that everyone, including his own party, oppose him personally, his character, and his positions.

So please, you replied to a poster who simply stated facts. What does it mean ?

The most "trump friendly" pundits, all the polls suggest not only will he get beaten..no wait..thrashed in the general, but cause congress to go to Democrats.

I am a conservative and it hurts me to say these things, but are you paying attention to anything beyond what he says ?


Do you have a point? The poster said everyone hates Trump. Personally, I don't like him either but explain the 50% higher Republican voter turn out. Explain the drop in Democrat voter turnout. It doesn't matter because I really don't care. I have no intention of voting for him in the Primary. And just because someone might be of the same party as myself, does not mean that I have to agree with any comment they make.

Guest 03-06-2016 04:50 PM

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Do you have a point? The poster said everyone hates Trump. Personally, I don't like him either but explain the 50% higher Republican voter turn out. Explain the drop in Democrat voter turnout. It doesn't matter because I really don't care. I have no intention of voting for him in the Primary. And just because someone might be of the same party as myself, does not mean that I have to agree with any comment they make.

Turnout to vote in Republican primaries = many democrats voting for Trump

That is one reason in these open primaries, he is winning but cannot surpass a certain percentage. Closed primaries coming up.

In addition, many are turning out to vote against Trump.

I did not mean to diminish the post but it made no sense at all.

Sure there are Dems crossing over to vote in primary, but I will assure you in a general election, the black vote turn out may exceed that for Obama and the Hispanic vote will be simply amazing and they will not be voting for Trump.

Guest 03-06-2016 05:15 PM

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Turnout to vote in Republican primaries = many democrats voting for Trump

That is one reason in these open primaries, he is winning but cannot surpass a certain percentage. Closed primaries coming up.

In addition, many are turning out to vote against Trump.

I did not mean to diminish the post but it made no sense at all.

Sure there are Dems crossing over to vote in primary, but I will assure you in a general election, the black vote turn out may exceed that for Obama and the Hispanic vote will be simply amazing and they will not be voting for Trump.

Historically, the black turnout is light. The only time we have had a large black turnout in the last couple decades is because of Obama. I doubt you will see the effort for Hillary. What's in it for them? They know she is a liar and could care less about them. That is well known in D.C.

I guess no one knows what will happen in Nov, until Nov. Predictions have been way off this year.

Guest 03-06-2016 05:29 PM

Who Are Trump's Supporters? What are the demographics?

Guest 03-06-2016 06:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195100)
Turnout to vote in Republican primaries = many democrats voting for Trump

That is one reason in these open primaries, he is winning but cannot surpass a certain percentage. Closed primaries coming up.

In addition, many are turning out to vote against Trump.

I did not mean to diminish the post but it made no sense at all.

Sure there are Dems crossing over to vote in primary, but I will assure you in a general election, the black vote turn out may exceed that for Obama and the Hispanic vote will be simply amazing and they will not be voting for Trump.

I agree, very few Dems will cross the line to vote for Trump. I have met so many Republicans that don't want to vote for Trump, and/or will do so reluctantly. When you start off with so many Republican candidates, (12 I think?), a lot of money and organizing goes into getting out the vote. If you only have 2 candidates, as with the Democrats, there is going to be less turnout, simply because there are only two candidates, and because Hillary is the presumed nominee. Its not rocket science.

Guest 03-06-2016 06:30 PM

Tootsie Rolls?
 
I voted today in the Florida primary at the Laurel Manor recreation center. No line at all!

There was a bowl of bite size Tootsie Rolls on the way out. You would think that Donald Trump would have splurged on Godiva chocolates, wouldn't you? :wave:

Guest 03-06-2016 06:34 PM

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I agree, very few Dems will cross the line to vote for Trump. I have met so many Republicans that don't want to vote for Trump, and/or will do so reluctantly. When you start off with so many Republican candidates, (12 I think?), a lot of money and organizing goes into getting out the vote. If you only have 2 candidates, as with the Democrats, there is going to be less turnout, simply because there are only two candidates, and because Hillary is the presumed nominee. Its not rocket science.

You are right. That "not rocket science" is being lost on all those Trump supporters that only listen to his mouth and ignore the questions about how he intends to do any of it.

Sad, he is really playing on fears and such. In Michigan they say he is attracting Democrats because of the job situation there. It is sad because if you listen to him an lay what he says alongside reality, it aint gonna happen and those democrats will be voting on the left side.


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