What you need to worry about are the democrats who will pull the Trump lever in the voting booth.....no change in party required to do that.

There are just too many democrats that will not vote for an unethical, untrustworty, blood on her hands, self centered liar oretending that she is owed something because she is pretending to be a representative woman (:1rotfl:).

You're right, the socialist party is not worried about his changing parties. Hillary is too busy worrying about staying out of jail and the rest of the Dems are worried about the Socialist beating her, thus Bloombugger getting set to throw his hat into the fray.

Changing political parties does not make one a loser. Your comment was childish and just relegated your comment to the petulant category.

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My God, you people are pretty removed from reality if you think any Democrats will vote for Trump. Just because you don't like Bernie or Hillary, in no way means that others feel the same way. Even if they are not crazy about the person who becomes the Democratic nominee, most if not all will still vote Democratic, because the alternative is just too scarey. Sorry to burst your bubble. What you need to be afraid of isn't Hillary or Bernie, its Bloomberg. If he runs, he will definitely siphon off more Republican votes than Democratic ones, which will kill the Republican changes.

chances.

So, you believe that Democrat voters are TOO smart to vote across party lines, but that Republicans might vote for a Democrat? Interesting but warped perspective on reality. Just because some Independents voted for Obama doesn't mean that the Republicans will vote for any of these Democrats, Hillary, the socialist and especially Bloomie. He is anti-gun and anti-sugar. He is part of the "nanny" state. Nope, what is going to happen is that the youth will not vote for Hillary, and neither will a large portion of smart Independents. I think that there are going to be a lot of surprised Democrats come election day. You can bring out anyone you wish, but Hillary will NOT be elected, period.

Once again the opposition is making up stories. your first line:

"...you people are pretty removed from reality if you think any Democrats will vote for Trump...." Pure BS and wishful, partisan when they don't know anything they just say anything.

What would you call the democrats some of us know who have openly stated they will not vote for Clinton or Sanders? Never mind you will only come back and try to over play the fact that is what these democrats are saying to us because that is what we want to hear....or some other cacca mammie BS story.

Talk about removed from reality....holy :censored:!

Don't know anything else to say, well try this. There are as many Republicans that say they will not vote for Trump as there are Democrats that say they will not vote for Hillary. If it is Hillary against Trump, this will be an election that you have to hold your nose and vote.

Try this one on for size, Hillary's running mate will be Elizabeth Warren to get the Sander's voters to vote for her. Hillary wins. She is convicted, and sentenced to jail, thereby being impeached. Now, Elizabeth Warren is your president. That would be a double wammie. First, the Republicans wouldn't bring Warren up for a vote for the head of the Consumer Financial Production Bureau under Dowd/Frank. Say good by, Scott Brown. It was nice knowing you. Say hello to Senator Elizabeth Warren. Then, the Republicans do everything to get rid of Hillary, and they succeed. Their prize for accomplishing their goal is Elizabeth Warren, who is right there with Sanders on the far left. Don't worry she is a woman, so she will give you a crying towel. That would be poetic justice times two.

so at this point at least republicans have other viable options...cannot say the same for the democratic situation.

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Why would Warren tie herself to a loser? The stigma and stink of the Clinton corruption would taint her forever. Nope, I don't see it happening. Besides, most likely Obama would whisper in Warren's ear and she would run in the opposite direction of Chillary. If Warren was interested in moving into the White House, she would have run for the top spot. After all, it should be a pretty easy run for an "almost native American" .....:1rotfl::1rotfl:

what if this is an accurate accounting:

MOOK SPOOKED: Hillary manager predicts Trump will win presidency if nominated! | The American Mirror

Judgement Day
 

Tomorrow the Iowa caucuses will take place and we'll have the first real picture of who is at the head of the pack. No more predicting by polling, just real live voters.

The weather is going to be a factor because a winter storm will impact the west side of Iowa in the late afternoon and get worse as the night goes on. That will probably keep many moderates at home because they don't have a candidate they can feel passionate about.

My guess is that the most polarized voters will come out and they'll vote for the polarizing candidates, Sanders and Trump. Hillary's going to have a bad night, The Donald's going to have a good one.

The Ruling Class is going to have testicular torsion.:22yikes:

I agree. The stock market has grown by leaps and bounds over the last 7 years along with jobs. The problem is most people don't see the recovery because the top 1% has hogged it all. Trickle down economics is a fallacy. Wages are kept down and the middle class is being depleted.

And you attribute a stock market recover to the Democrats? That's pretty funny. Please give us some examples of what they did to contribute to it's recovery.

Your shade of green as in envy and jealousy is most becoming. Personally, I have no problem with those making one percent and paying my taxes for me.

Yes, the middle class is being depleted. You know why? Because the left's redistribution plans are for the lower class, the lazy and do not help the middle class at all. Small business is not hiring and some are closing up shop because of Obamacare. Wages are kept down so that small business can afford to pay all the extras that this administration requires.

Poverty level is at an all time high.
More people on food stamps in history
Higher health care cost since Obamacare
Lies about Obamacare such as providing more health care when it is just mandatory now and costing more. Even those that couldn't afford it but have to have it now, are paying thousands more in deductible. It won't help them at all.
More people quit the work force than ever before
More people quit looking for employment

This is the longest recession or depression recovery in history. Thanks to this administration.

So, blame it on Bush and blame it on the wealthy. That is the tact of a loser.

not to mention all the printed money which was infused into the stock market to keep investors happy.

How was the recovery under bush43? I guess you have a short memory.

How did Trump do last night in Iowa? lol

How did Trump do last night in Iowa? lol

No, I believe it is YOU that have the short memory. The stock market tanked right after 9/11 but was back up again within a year. I know because my 401K dropped 50% and then totally recovered. Unemployment was so low that economists considered it FULL EMPLOYMENT. That was until the last two years where he had a Democrat controlled congress. Then it went up a bit, but not a whole lot. Maybe one or two points. SO yes, this administration has not done so well with the recovery, and I think that we owe the credit of any recovery solely to business, in spite of strict restrictions and taxing from this administration.

just fine
 

i believe he did just fine...and now on to other states where he will have even bigger successes.

how did Trump do? since Iowa is a state where delegates are split, the tiny difference between the three top winners will result in almost the same number of delegates for each one. it is not a winner-take-all state....the turnout over all shows that the voters are ready to fight for this country

He is still for very big government, huge military, vast spending, great debt, and basically tearing up the US Constitution.

This statement is total nonsense. Corporations have moved their production overseas. That is what is hurting the middle class the most, especially people without a college degree. Bulworth in 1998 said it more clearly.Bulworth Quotes | 35 quotes by |

Big business has been steadily moving overseas for many years. Yes, that is hurting all of us, not just the middle class. But, what I said is also true and more related to the present. And there are plenty of people making good money that have NO college. That is not the factor that is pertinent. Even though I can not stand Obama's ideology, policies or choices, I do not give him blame for our industry that moved overseas. There are many factors that occurred a long time before Obama. High union labor costs, high corporate taxes, etc. They have been in play longer than Obama has been president.

But, Obamacare and restrictions are causing small businesses to close up or not hire more employees. That's a fact.

Trump did not do as well as he thought. Rubio did better than anyone thought. And Rubio will do even better in NH.

Yo!!! We ain't talkin' about Obama!

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It's about the jobs, Stupid.

Therefore it would be good for a change, to have a President who's actually had a job--a real job in private sector--and actually earned/produced revenue to make payroll!

It's also about the tax code. It should be totally abolished to wipe out all the loopholes.

Trump's tax plan makes sense and treats income earners with some respect for once:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

Dear GOP voters:

This election cycle is so irrational that the only number I am going to watch are the number of delegates won by a candidate. The winner going into the GOP convention must have 1287 delegates.

Personal Best Regards:

I agree with just about everything, but the last sentence. The mandate that requires companies with more than 50 employees is not in affect yet. The number of companies with 50 or more employees that don't offer health insurance to their employees is very small. Percent of Private Sector Establishments That Offer Health Insurance to Employees, by Firm Size | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

Some people that don't have a college education are doing well. However, most of these people are in the trades, or government employees. Factory workers are almost a thing of the past in the US. We are now a service country. Even now, good paying service jobs are moving overseas. You call the customer service for some of the large companies, and you can't understand a word the person on the other line is saying.

Although I respect Trump's plan and believe he is a good businessman, I am a firm believer that EVERYONE should have some skin in the game, and pay their share of taxes. We have way too many folks voting for politicians primarily on what is offered to them, rather than what is good for our country. And that is why all these young college students want to vote for Sanders. He is offering them something that is impossible for him to promise. Free college is impossible without everyone paying for it, for the rest of their lives. That means increased taxes in order to fund that freebie. He also wants to give everyone gov health care. Also at a major cost. But, let's go back to Trump's plan, which is much of what Bush W did too. It made the lower 47% totally free of responsibility by their not paying taxes. EVERYONE can pay taxes according to their ability. We have state sales taxes and no one complains about them. If we did away with income taxes and just charged sales taxes, everyone would contribute. The rich would actually pay more taxes than they are now. The seniors would only pay when they spent money. Their savings where they live off of the interest would be safe from taxation until they spent money.

But, I digress. Trumps plan is all well and good, but not feasible to pay off the year to year deficit, let alone pay down on the national debt.

I am not voting for him, not because of that reason but other reasons.

What we need after Obama is someone that understands the political system and how D.C. works and also be able to work with EVERYONE in the government, without kissing anyone's @ss. That's hard to find, but we do have some decent candidates.

Cruz is not even in my consideration. He is not only abrasive with his own party and not at all liked in congress, but he does not have the experience.

I will vote for any Republican that is nominated, but I will not vote to nominate Cruz or Trump.

I will not disrespect anyone that is planning to vote for one of the GOP candidates that are not my choice, but I will give my reasons while attempting not to disrespect the candidate.

On the other hand, I have no respect for the criminal in the other party or the socialist.

Your quote in bold is being generous to Trump. His plan isn't going to pay down the national debt, but add to it. Donald Trump's Tax Plan Could Be Huge(ly Expensive) : It's All Politics : NPR

NPR??? :22yikes:

Time to broaden your horizons.

No Chi, I know what NPR is. I just don't find them very credible. Just too left for me.

We have hundreds of college students today who refuse to honor their student loans with the excuse that they were promised good jobs and did not get them. Obama created this situation and his policies and the Fed desire to serve their president have created this long and weak recovery. Obama is always Obama and he is making every effort for these trillion in dollar loans to be forgiven.

So can you imagine if socialists Sander or Clinton become president what this nation is facing. Can you imagine what our government would be like with ego-manics like Trump or Cruz running it.

For the last 7 years I have ignored Obama's speeches. I feel the same way about Trump and Cruz. It is actually painful to listen to these three sing their own hyperbolic praises. I cringe when their voices first appear and quickly exit the room. The thought of their monopolizing television for eight years announcing how great a president they are is unbearable.

Voters better get a grip because this nation needs a serious, thoughtful, moral visionary and not bombastic baboons. The road to the abyss is near by.

Personal Best Regards:

The whole student loan issue is nothing more than a political sham to get votes. For Clinton during her yelling fest in Iowa to have one of her priorities to lift the burden of student loans off the backs of college graduates.
What is next. Do something about the car payments that they agreed to pay. Or maybe the size of their mortgage is more than their education could warrant therefore please Clinton take my burden away.

I was going to say anybody who buys into that BS needs to wake up, but changed my mind.....talking to Clinton supporters.

Does such a BS proposal include some recompense for those of us who did what we commited to do.....paid of our loans that allowed us to get the education that would have otherwise not been possible.

No....:censored:.....keep the burden on their backs where it belongs. They signed up for it. Now make them pay. This continuing :censored: selective enforcement of the laws is BS.

But what else would one expect from a multiple felon, liar....I forgot.

Not to worry. Car Talk is off the air.