So, you believe that Democrat voters are TOO smart to vote across party lines, but that Republicans might vote for a Democrat? Interesting but warped perspective on reality. Just because some Independents voted for Obama doesn't mean that the Republicans will vote for any of these Democrats, Hillary, the socialist and especially Bloomie. He is anti-gun and anti-sugar. He is part of the "nanny" state. Nope, what is going to happen is that the youth will not vote for Hillary, and neither will a large portion of smart Independents. I think that there are going to be a lot of surprised Democrats come election day. You can bring out anyone you wish, but Hillary will NOT be elected, period.

Once again the opposition is making up stories. your first line:

"...you people are pretty removed from reality if you think any Democrats will vote for Trump...." Pure BS and wishful, partisan when they don't know anything they just say anything.

What would you call the democrats some of us know who have openly stated they will not vote for Clinton or Sanders? Never mind you will only come back and try to over play the fact that is what these democrats are saying to us because that is what we want to hear....or some other cacca mammie BS story.

Talk about removed from reality....holy :censored:!

Don't know anything else to say, well try this. There are as many Republicans that say they will not vote for Trump as there are Democrats that say they will not vote for Hillary. If it is Hillary against Trump, this will be an election that you have to hold your nose and vote.

Try this one on for size, Hillary's running mate will be Elizabeth Warren to get the Sander's voters to vote for her. Hillary wins. She is convicted, and sentenced to jail, thereby being impeached. Now, Elizabeth Warren is your president. That would be a double wammie. First, the Republicans wouldn't bring Warren up for a vote for the head of the Consumer Financial Production Bureau under Dowd/Frank. Say good by, Scott Brown. It was nice knowing you. Say hello to Senator Elizabeth Warren. Then, the Republicans do everything to get rid of Hillary, and they succeed. Their prize for accomplishing their goal is Elizabeth Warren, who is right there with Sanders on the far left. Don't worry she is a woman, so she will give you a crying towel. That would be poetic justice times two.

so at this point at least republicans have other viable options...cannot say the same for the democratic situation.

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Why would Warren tie herself to a loser? The stigma and stink of the Clinton corruption would taint her forever. Nope, I don't see it happening. Besides, most likely Obama would whisper in Warren's ear and she would run in the opposite direction of Chillary. If Warren was interested in moving into the White House, she would have run for the top spot. After all, it should be a pretty easy run for an "almost native American" .....:1rotfl::1rotfl:

what if this is an accurate accounting:

MOOK SPOOKED: Hillary manager predicts Trump will win presidency if nominated! | The American Mirror

Judgement Day
 

Tomorrow the Iowa caucuses will take place and we'll have the first real picture of who is at the head of the pack. No more predicting by polling, just real live voters.

The weather is going to be a factor because a winter storm will impact the west side of Iowa in the late afternoon and get worse as the night goes on. That will probably keep many moderates at home because they don't have a candidate they can feel passionate about.

My guess is that the most polarized voters will come out and they'll vote for the polarizing candidates, Sanders and Trump. Hillary's going to have a bad night, The Donald's going to have a good one.

The Ruling Class is going to have testicular torsion.:22yikes:

I agree. The stock market has grown by leaps and bounds over the last 7 years along with jobs. The problem is most people don't see the recovery because the top 1% has hogged it all. Trickle down economics is a fallacy. Wages are kept down and the middle class is being depleted.

And you attribute a stock market recover to the Democrats? That's pretty funny. Please give us some examples of what they did to contribute to it's recovery.

Your shade of green as in envy and jealousy is most becoming. Personally, I have no problem with those making one percent and paying my taxes for me.

Yes, the middle class is being depleted. You know why? Because the left's redistribution plans are for the lower class, the lazy and do not help the middle class at all. Small business is not hiring and some are closing up shop because of Obamacare. Wages are kept down so that small business can afford to pay all the extras that this administration requires.

Poverty level is at an all time high.
More people on food stamps in history
Higher health care cost since Obamacare
Lies about Obamacare such as providing more health care when it is just mandatory now and costing more. Even those that couldn't afford it but have to have it now, are paying thousands more in deductible. It won't help them at all.
More people quit the work force than ever before
More people quit looking for employment

This is the longest recession or depression recovery in history. Thanks to this administration.

So, blame it on Bush and blame it on the wealthy. That is the tact of a loser.

not to mention all the printed money which was infused into the stock market to keep investors happy.

How was the recovery under bush43? I guess you have a short memory.

How did Trump do last night in Iowa? lol

How did Trump do last night in Iowa? lol

No, I believe it is YOU that have the short memory. The stock market tanked right after 9/11 but was back up again within a year. I know because my 401K dropped 50% and then totally recovered. Unemployment was so low that economists considered it FULL EMPLOYMENT. That was until the last two years where he had a Democrat controlled congress. Then it went up a bit, but not a whole lot. Maybe one or two points. SO yes, this administration has not done so well with the recovery, and I think that we owe the credit of any recovery solely to business, in spite of strict restrictions and taxing from this administration.