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Old 02-15-2015, 11:58 AM
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"According to John Heilemann and Mark Halperins 2010 book Game Change: Obama and the Clintons, McCain and Palin, and the Race of a Lifetime, Hillary told Obama that she was most worried about the damage Bill could do."

....."I remember asking Jeffrey, Whats Bill Clinton doing here? Roberts said in 2011. The former president, she added, was accompanied by four young girls during his stay two of whom were among Epsteins regular sex partners. And [Jeffrey] laughed it off and said, Well, he owes me a favor. He never told me what favors they were.
Clinton also spent years traveling and partying with Ron Burkle, a billionaire bachelor with a penchant for very young girls. Clinton spent so much time on Burkles private plane that it came to be known in Burkles circle as Air Fk One.
And that is to say nothing of Bills solicitation of mystery donors, the concerns about financial malfeasance at the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation, Bills racially charged verbal gaffes during Hillarys 2008 bid and the alleged longtime, serious mistress that diverted Hillarys presidential campaign from larger problems."


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"But when youre running for office as the first female president of the United States who, by the way, has spent her entire life advocating for womens and childrens rights and your husband has spent years consorting with at least one known pedophile who ensnared girls as young as 14 into his private sex ring, its a potentially insurmountable liability.
As it is, Bill supposedly was the reason Hillary initially declined then-President-elect Obamas offer to be secretary of state.


I think everyone has heard about Mr Epsteins romps and procurement deals for young gals.....

"Flight logs show that Bill Clinton would later fly Epsteins private plane at least 11 times several with Maxwell on board, and at least once with a soft-core porn star. Roberts has also said that Clinton visited Epsteins private island, dubbed Orgy Island, several times. Court documents show that Epstein had 21 private e-mail addresses and phone numbers for Clinton and an aide."

No problem you think ???
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:11 PM
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Significant, in that article.....said on Meet The Press, but not oft reported...

"Hillary took another hit when Claire McCaskill, the prominent Democratic senator from Missouri, weighed in on Bill's reputation."hes been a great leader, McCaskill said, but I dont want my daughter near him.


I bring this up, not just because of the article today, but I noticed someone taking shots at Jeb Bush's family, their heritage, etc., thus.....
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:14 PM
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2016 polls show Clinton leads in key states, GOP field wide open | MSNBC


Could this poll just released today be the reason for the mudslinging of the Clintons? This is old news, book released five years ago. Why are we even having an election in 2016, just so the Koch brothers can waste another billion dollars (chump change to them)?
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:23 PM
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Bill Clinton’s libido threatens to derail Hillary — again | New York Post

Sorry I did not supply a link for this thread and my subsequent post...from today's paper
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:25 PM
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2016 polls show Clinton leads in key states, GOP field wide open | MSNBC


Could this poll just released today be the reason for the mudslinging of the Clintons? This is old news, book released five years ago. Why are we even having an election in 2016, just so the Koch brothers can waste another billion dollars (chump change to them)?

Despite....no mudslinging..all a matter of record, and simply asking if it might effect the election at all.

Some think the ethnicity of Jeb Bush wife and family is important based on other posts, so.......
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:31 PM
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Significant, in that article.....said on Meet The Press, but not oft reported...

"Hillary took another hit when Claire McCaskill, the prominent Democratic senator from Missouri, weighed in on Bill's reputation."hes been a great leader, McCaskill said, but I dont want my daughter near him.


I bring this up, not just because of the article today, but I noticed someone taking shots at Jeb Bush's family, their heritage, etc., thus.....




The only shots being taken at Jeb's family has to do with all the wars his brother started.

Jeb will have to answer for that - saying he doesn't want to talk about the past won't cut it.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:38 PM
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The only shots being taken at Jeb's family has to do with all the wars his brother started.

Jeb will have to answer for that - saying he doesn't want to talk about the past won't cut it.
POST #10 from the thread DREAM 201 TICKET.....

"So it's doubtful that you will vote for Jeb Bush and his Mexican wife and half-Mexican children to occupy the White House? Just wondering?"
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:39 PM
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2016 polls show Clinton leads in key states, GOP field wide open | MSNBC


Could this poll just released today be the reason for the mudslinging of the Clintons? This is old news, book released five years ago. Why are we even having an election in 2016, just so the Koch brothers can waste another billion dollars (chump change to them)?

I would really like this thread to stay on trac and get opinions as to if this is an issue or not for the nomination or the election.

I will be glad to being another thread on the Kock brothers to make you happy.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:00 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't think the followers/supporters of the Clintons, much like the Clintons themselves, have much of a moral compass, so my short answer would be "no, it won't effect the nominations/elections". And then, only time will tell how the masses will follow in their approval or disapproval. IMHO, character matters........unfortunately, I'm not so sure I am in the majority with that opinion anymore.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:01 PM
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A non-issue. Except, of course, to the hard right "family values" trumps everything crowd.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:04 PM
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Two things Clinton based will dampen voters apetite for her.

One of course is their past....his sexual romps and her past as Secretary of State....her ranting during the Benghazi incestigation and losing control while spouting those famous totally insensitive telling comments....WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE.

What will it take to convince some that not being qualified for the job does in fact have something to do with who is the candidate.

What is sort of disarming is the dialogue that spins around she is the most likely to be able to win. Really? Regardless of her past lack of performance representing the USA on the world stage? Regardless she is not qualified to be POTUS.....and that SHOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I still say those dems who fell for the promises and all the talk with no action....added to the just terrible way the USA has been represented and or defended in the rest of the world.....will have an affect on whether Clinton or another dem can win.

Clinton just will not bring around any more change in how we do business in Washington or the rest of the world. She is and has been a part of the crumudgeon system and has no clue how to conduct business any other way.

If we are going to error on the side of inexperience how about somebody younger (yes I said YOUNGER with specific intent) who is not a product of the current system.

For either party are we not weary of more of the same all these years? I am.
I want a ballsy/gutsy POTUS who does in fact do exactly what he has sworn to do. One who will restore America back to the status of greatness of the past. Back to leading the world technologically, militarily here on earth and outer space.

Show me the candidate who has the capability to get at that job and that is who I would vote for........it certainly is not the people being fawned over as the Dream Team.....not unless one is satisfied with more of the same!!!
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:18 PM
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A non-issue. Except, of course, to the hard right "family values" trumps everything crowd.
True! Family values espoused by folks like Newt Gingerich, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, and on and on.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:33 PM
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True! Family values espoused by folks like Newt Gingerich, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, and on and on.
Not sure if any of those were close associates of pedophiles, were they ? Or traveled to sites now known for sex orgies with those under age ?

Not sure, may have missed that.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:46 PM
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More from the last 24 hours.....Maureen Dowd this time...

"But, for now, what Republicans say about government is true of the Clintons: They really do believe that your money belongs to them."

"ILL pay for this column.

The Rottweilers will be unleashed.

Once the Clintons had a War Room. Now they have a Slime Room.

Once they had the sly James Carville, fondly known as serpenthead. Now they have the slippery David Brock, accurately known as a snake.

Brock fits into the Clinton tradition of opportunistic knife-fighters like Dick Morris and Mark Penn.

The silver-haired 52-year-old, who sports colorful designer suits and once wore a monocle, brawled his way into a Times article about the uneasy marriage between Hillary Clintons veteran attack dogs and the group of advisers who are moving over from Obamaland
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/op...dogs.html?_r=0

Interesting piece. If you have an interest in politics, it is a good read
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Old 02-15-2015, 03:42 PM
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More from the last 24 hours.....Maureen Dowd this time...

"But, for now, what Republicans say about government is true of the Clintons: They really do believe that your money belongs to them."

"ILL pay for this column.

The Rottweilers will be unleashed.

Once the Clintons had a War Room. Now they have a Slime Room.

Once they had the sly James Carville, fondly known as serpenthead. Now they have the slippery David Brock, accurately known as a snake.

Brock fits into the Clinton tradition of opportunistic knife-fighters like Dick Morris and Mark Penn.

The silver-haired 52-year-old, who sports colorful designer suits and once wore a monocle, brawled his way into a Times article about the uneasy marriage between Hillary Clintons veteran attack dogs and the group of advisers who are moving over from Obamaland
.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/op...dogs.html?_r=0

Interesting piece. If you have an interest in politics, it is a good read
Maureen Dowd has been running this same column since 1998, and David Brock left the Clinton campaign last week. Old news.
 

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