As I read these threads, it is clear that the Republicans and the Democrats are to blame for everything. As an Independent, I am in the clear. As my dad used to say, " The country has been going to hell since I was a kid( born in 1908) and we are still here." He is gone now, but it would seem we are still going to hell but we are still here. Step back everybody, would you like to live in another country. This is the best country in the world. We have lived through idiot Republicans and Democrats. We will live thru many more.

I totally agree we will survive. But what is different at this
 

particular point in history is that we have always had the ability to get up from the lows dealt to us as we were a growing strong, proud citizenry ready to fight and do what ever it took to defeat what ever it was at hand.

I am not so sure we have the same cross section of people or beliefs anymore.
I cringe at the thought there are way too many in this era of entitlement who will wait and rely on the government to lead us out of the quagmire.....I personally do not believe we have that caliber of leadership in command anywhere in Washington, beginning with Obama. Past wars and andversity were not won or defeated by trying to make nice with all those who have vowed to destroy us.

Time is not on our side....it is with our adversaries and they know it.

btk