Big time agreement here! :)

I’m a 9-holer all the way. I can play 18. I just don’t want to take 5-6 hours at time out of my day for golf...or anything else for that matter. :D

Hacienda conditions
 

We played Hacienda on Wednesday 9/23 mid morning and found it to be in great shape! Rough had been mowed and although it wasn’t tall it was quite thick and punishing, as it should be! Our foursome enjoyed a great round! Will go back.

But...... if the course is well maintained, then I would need a new list of excuses for poor golfing

They probably are trying to reduce rounds so they can use lack of play as an excuse to build more apts

Did you trip over any surveys stakes?

I played on 10/30 and it is okay
 

The issue they are dealing with is excessive water on the course due to our rains. So a few holes we had to stay in the rough. I think this was why one nine was closed when you played. The higher rough is a feature, making the course a little bit harder, not a dog track. The fairways and greens had been cut we saw the grass clippings. The greens are slow, but nearly all the greens in the Villages are slow. There are several reasons a course does this, but it is mainly to make it easier to keep the greens alive on a course that gets lots of play. Yes, it would be nice to have faster greens. But the course is not as bad now as what you experienced.

My wife and I played HH yesterday and we both thought the conditions were very acceptable. The greens were generally in good condition but were on the slower side, especially compared to Tierra Del Sol, which I played a couple days before. The rough seemed a bit longer than usual, but hitting the ball in the rough is supposed to make for a more difficult shot. All in all the conditions were good.

I do feel very sorry for the owners of homes on the 9th fairway on the Oaks Course as well as the homes along the first holes of both the Oaks and Lakes courses. Their homes will, without a doubt, experience a significant decline in value facing a multi story high density apartment complex.

Re-Hacienda Palms - no point in maintaining a building site - Palms is ideal for re-development now the CC has gone !!

I played it as well. Calling it a dog track is being kind.

Every once in awhile I will read your assessments of golf course conditions here. I invite people to read back on your many posts.

I found this one from 2011.

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Played Nancy Lopez today....really good shape

Generally you are not pleased with how the courses are kept.

I do have an issue with the conditions of the champ courses, do not play execs. I try to be objective with my opinions. I have posted positive comments on courses. Bonifay was pretty good Saturday. I just don't think we get good conditions much of the time and to be honest am tired of all the excuses for the poor conditions. These courses are NOT cheap to play with a $800.00 priority fee, plus green fees that increase every year and using your own cart. These courses produce millions of dollars in revenue yet they can't hire two or three real golf supers. There is also the poor use of manpower. How many times have we seen them mowing where there is no grass, couldn't they be better used fixing up tee boxes? I can go on and on.