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ricthemic 05-17-2014 06:55 AM

Need a water filter system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ad poster (Post 616876)
NOVA Water Filtration

Whole house triple cartridge filter
$369 for Unit Only
$495 for Unit and Installation



Water Softners commercial Grade $1,499.00 Installed!!!
Paying Retail really Bites!!!

Money Back Guarentee!!

631-338-1048

Bob
Village Resident

Could you give a website link on this system. Need more info on specs. Thank you

jimbo2012 05-17-2014 07:07 AM

What specs are you interested in? Their website doesn't have much info other than size etc, it's not consumer orientated.

TNLAKEPANDA 06-08-2014 06:38 AM

Can I buy replacement filter cartridge anywhere or only from you?

jimbo2012 06-08-2014 01:20 PM

Sure they can be found online, (not in HD or Lowes these are commercial grade) but frankly you will not get them at our price.

TNLAKEPANDA 06-09-2014 07:35 AM

Contact me in mid Nov. Can schedule then.

Thanks

Nova Filtration 09-18-2014 07:12 PM

Shall do.

tks

capecodbob 10-21-2014 08:29 PM

Got Bob installing a Nova Water filter system the 1st week in November. Can't wait to have the system up and running.
Bob

pvkathy 11-26-2014 11:10 AM

Bob, I get no answer when I call the number listed. How do I get in touch with you?

Nova Filtration 11-26-2014 11:36 AM

Hi, I'm at 631 338.1048

Bob

Nova Filtration 02-02-2015 08:26 AM

Just a reminder to all our customers that have their systems over 12-15 months to call us to schedule cartridge replacements.

The price installed is $95 for all three and you will get the new 5 micron carbon.

(if you prefer to install yourself they are $70 for a set of three)


tks
Bob

Oneiric 02-20-2015 06:23 PM

Would you please educate us on Salt-Free Water Conditioners vs. Salt Using Water Softeners. Costs, maintenance. Which we could use if we only care about scale/
Thank you

jimbo2012 02-20-2015 06:37 PM

I have not seen scale in pipes here including homes that are over 15 years old.

Scale is more of a concern in copper pipes all the pipes here are CPVC (plastic)

The scale you may be referring to is claimed by salesmen selling water softeners, I assume that's where you may have heard that, if it's something else please explain further.

Oneiric 02-20-2015 07:49 PM

Isn't scale the white granular calcium deposits found inside the water closet,along the edge of the pool,etc

Oneiric 02-20-2015 08:05 PM

Again,could you please educate us on the difference between salt free water conditioners and salt using water softeners. Thank you.

jimbo2012 02-20-2015 08:13 PM

The deposits your speaking of is surface deposits, I was speaking to build up inside of pipes.

surface deposits which can be wiped clean with CLR 2-3 times a year and be gone, no need for a water softener.

But to answer your question

Salt based water softeners use an electronic metered valve mounted atop a fiberglass resin tank that meter water by the gallon and then run a cleaning cycle when the ion resin bed reaches a saturation point. During the cleaning cycle, the electronic valve cycles a series of back flushes to purge the hardness particulates that have been captured from the system and flush them down a drain line. The sodium is also replenished in the resin bed during the cycle and all is ready to go again.

salt free
In the process above (true water softening), hardness minerals are actually removed from the water. In the salt-free process minerals are retained in the water, but their form is changed so they will not adhere to surfaces.

Water is processed through a catalytic media using a physical process called Template Assisted Crystallization (TAC). What happens is the hardness minerals are converted to a hardness crystal that is not able to bind to surfaces. This is actually water conditioning, not softening.


does that answer your question?

Oneiric 02-20-2015 08:25 PM

Economics of each type of system? pros and cons? Maintenance costs? Thank you

jimbo2012 02-20-2015 08:46 PM

We don't advocate the use of them, they don't actually filter water.

It is my position far better results are obtained with our triple whole house filter, at considerable saving and maintenance over other types.

see this page https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...d-water-91472/

Oneiric 02-21-2015 04:57 AM

Thank you Jimbo. Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems salt based systems are very expensive, often not necessary, and have high maintenance costs. Salt free water conditioners sort of polish the Ca and Mg so they don't adhere as much but they still end up being deposited after the water dries. i.e. expensive but don't do much?

jimbo2012 02-21-2015 07:32 AM

That sums it up, that's why the Triple is the best punch for the buck under $500 and $95 a year maintenance.

I'm disconnecting another softener (my 6th one) this Wednesday in fact, replacing it with Triple

tommy steam 02-26-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nova Filtration (Post 621750)
A bit of back ground on myself I’ve been in the aquarium (pet) industry over 35 years, during that time specializing in ponds, fish and reef tanks. Reef tanks demand a very high quality of water and some of the larger systems have upwards of $40K invested in its livestock.

For many years we have been selling the source water filtration systems for these aquariums in our stores and an authorized dealer.

http://www.axeonwater.com/skin/commo...ages/axeon.gif

The basic system is the one I already mentioned made by Axeon Water Technologies. We have had good results with their products, they are I believe one of the largest manufacturers in the US and private label for many others. They also make RO units which we use on tanks all the time. In addition they also manufacturer water softeners but be mindful all their products are commercial grade.

In the Villages the water is hard, but water hardness is not harmful to us so the issue is do you need or want soft water. As you know folks have been selling these for about $2500 to $7500, we can offer a unit as robust if not more so with equal or better ratings and capacities for only $1499.

“AXEON Meter Water Softeners use advanced ion exchange resin technology in order to meet the most demanding water conditions. These systems are designed for maximum performance with a minimal amount of maintenance and comply with all industry standards and specifications.
AXEON Meter Water Softeners offer a new dimension in water treatment equipment and have been engineered with both the installer and consumer in mind.
AXEON Meter Water Softeners are effective in reducing hardness, iron, and regenerate based on measured gallon flow-through. AXEON Meter Water Softeners require periodic backwashing to dispose of accumulated hardness ions. Backwashing allows for removal of contaminants through regeneration with a salt or potassium solution”


Having said that, I myself will not being installing a water softener in my Village home instead I’m using a whole house filter or “WHF”.
This is a LARGE triple 20” canister including the all important carbon bloc, removing what I feel is the primary contaminate for us to ingest, cook or bath in.
You will notice in the picture there are two gauges on the unit these will indicate a drop in water pressure comparing the incoming to our going. Easily telling you when the cartridge elements need changing. It is estimated that these filter elements will last 9-12 months replacements are low cost.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...als-filter.jpg


Notice the two pressure gauges!
So the question here is will a whole house filter “WHF” suffice to deliver the clean water you need or do you need a softener. IMO the whole house filter should be satisfactory for most homes at a low cost of not only initial purchase but replacement filters on an ongoing basis.

Lastly, if you decide to switch to a water softener after the getting a WHF it will work as a pre-filter removing sediments before the softener and the carbon can be used as a post filter to remove chlorine after the softener, so the investment in the WHF will not be wasted.

Just a note in any softener installation a carbon filter must be used to remove chlorine & other contaminates after the softener.

If you do nothing else get a whole house carbon filter for about $139.

The first shipment arrived of these great filters, I'll be installing one in my new home in the next few day and I'll post pics of the install.

If prefer to install the unit I'll give you complete instructions on how to do it.


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I think this is good information , thanks Jimbo :wave:

birdawg 02-26-2015 07:51 PM

The nova system seems real nice Are you a licensed plumber and do you have insurance.

Astropoint 05-26-2015 09:35 AM

I am also interested if you are a licensed plumber and if your product is certified by the NSF under their NSF/ANSI 61 standard for residential water filters. When I search their website, I can not find a listing for NOVA, or AXEON in the certified filter database.
Please explain.

Nova Filtration 05-26-2015 06:51 PM

I'm not a licensed plumber, but I have one that works for us.
All the filters are NSF certified.

Astropoint 05-30-2015 08:41 AM

Thanks for your response. I'm really having trouble finding the NSF certification information for your product. Could you please provide the NSF "Performance Claims" and the Rated Service Flow for your product and the country of origin information. Thanks in advance.

outlaw 05-30-2015 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astropoint (Post 1067253)
Thanks for your response. I'm really having trouble finding the NSF certification information for your product. Could you please provide the NSF "Performance Claims" and the Rated Service Flow for your product and the country of origin information. Thanks in advance.

I don't think you will find anything under "Nova". I think the filter system is called Axeon, or something like that.

jimbo2012 05-30-2015 09:21 AM

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Nova Filtration 05-30-2015 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astropoint (Post 1067253)
Thanks for your response. I'm really having trouble finding the NSF certification information for your product. Could you please provide the NSF "Performance Claims" and the Rated Service Flow for your product and the country of origin information. Thanks in advance.

the filtration is a max of 5 micron, the flow is 80 psi made in the USA

Maybe you should call us

outlaw 07-17-2015 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova Filtration (Post 1067288)
the filtration is a max of 5 micron, the flow is 80 psi made in the USA

Maybe you should call us

Why not use a 1 micron carbon filter cartridge? Does Axeon make one that will work with your system?

Nova Filtration 07-17-2015 10:48 AM

I can get 1 and or 2 micron carbon blocs, I use them on aquarium systems.

The issue is in a home using way more water than a aquarium it will clog or load in a few months (2-3), but if you don't mind the cost yes I can get them.

Generally WHF are 10-15 microns in the final stage.

5 is considered a very fine element eliminating most debris and chemicals.





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birdawg 07-17-2015 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova Filtration (Post 1065833)
I'm not a licensed plumber, but I have one that works for us.
All the filters are NSF certified.

Does your licensed plumber pull a permit for the work and does he have insurance.

Nova Filtration 07-17-2015 03:16 PM

Permit not required, yes he has insurance

Packer Fan 02-06-2016 12:17 PM

Just read through this whole thread, and as a former Reefer, totally get what you are saying and agree. I do have one question - you don't really address Reverse Osmosis at all. The problem with RO is the flow rate, but you can get around that with a tank. Can you go over why you don't fee an RO system is necessary? Side note- looked at your website and you live around the corner from me - I am in Hillsboro. Probably will do your system next year for my renters.

Nova Filtration 02-06-2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1182523)
Just read through this whole thread, and as a former Reefer, totally get what you are saying and agree. I do have one question - you don't really address Reverse Osmosis at all. The problem with RO is the flow rate, but you can get around that with a tank. Can you go over why you don't fee an RO system is necessary? .

Well there are pros & cons with RO, at most you may want it for drinking and cooking but not anything else in the home, too expensive for the flow rate, yes a tank would work but then that tank needs a pump to deliver water to home.

All 4 of my aquarium stores on Long Island have such systems, I installed a 700 gallon a day RO with a 1,000 gallon tank and pump it to the fish systems for water changes and acclimation. Cost was about $6,000.

But the stores have about 9,000 gallons of fish & coral tanks

Back to a typical home

For that we can do a under sink RO with a faucet next to the sink.

But as you know an RO strips all the minerals out of the water, great for reef/fish tanks but most folks need those minerals.

So it's a matter of choice not necessity.

In my opinion, the water filtered by the triple Nova system more than meets the needs of having great water at a very reasonable price.

Did I answer your question with enough detail?

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jimbo2012 02-24-2016 01:06 PM

Continued here


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