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Old 05-11-2022, 07:37 PM
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Default 2022 is colder than average.

The last 4 months have been colder than average -- and May is looking to be the same. Find out why and other amazing climate news in the new "Climate Change Calamity" talk this Friday (the 13th) at 4 PM at the Lake Miona Center's Philosophy Club meeting.
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It’s climate change. The climate is always changing so you can’t win arguments saying climate is not changing.
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It's called climate change for a reason.
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Cancelling my discover magazine because every article mentions "CLIMATE CHANGE"
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From NOAA:

"The January–March global surface temperature was 0.88°C (1.58°F) above average — the fifth-highest January–March temperature in the 143-year record. The five warmest January–March periods have occurred since 2016. According to NCEI's statistical analysis, the year 2022 is very likely to rank among the ten warmest years on record and has a 39.9% chance to rank among the five warmest years on record."

So your statement that things have been cooler, no colder, than average is simply a lie. There may be isolated areas with local variations, but the global trend continues upward.
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Don't know about temperatures, but April was the driest month I can remember.
No showers at all in our area of UK. Cold winds but lots of sunshine.
Warming up now, with odd showers of rain.
All our Dahlias survived winter in ground, and veg garden looking great.
Thank you Global Warming!
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The mass psychosis box - aka, television - is pushing the term "Climate Change" to program their NPC chihuahuas. Just search "solar cycle 25" for earth science view. We are in a 13 year solar minimum in a 300 year warming cycle. The earth is getting greener from higher atmospherics CO2 and H2O over the last 300 years. Maybe Greenland will become green again and dinosaurs will come back. I would love a brontosaurus burger.
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Looks like Siberia is going to have a bumper crop this year.
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Looks like Siberia is going to have a bumper crop this year.
More the worry for world food supply, Ukraine isn't!
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The mass psychosis box - aka, television - is pushing the term "Climate Change" to program their NPC chihuahuas. Just search "solar cycle 25" for earth science view. We are in a 13 year solar minimum in a 300 year warming cycle. The earth is getting greener from higher atmospherics CO2 and H2O over the last 300 years. Maybe Greenland will become green again and dinosaurs will come back. I would love a brontosaurus burger.
Yep.

"If it bleeds, it leads". And nothing sells papers, gathers clicks and amasses hits than a good panic. We've learned that in the past few years, if we've learned nothing else.
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In a few hundred years we should know more about this cycle
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Keep the jet set on the ground. They can spread their lies without flying all over the world. It is all about the money.
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Just read the chart. It says, "with respect to the 1991-2020 base period." That's just 30 years of data. Not too hard to be one of the 10 warmest years in 30. It's junk, not science. Climate change is, of course, real. But this kind of propaganda doesn't help convince folks.
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Nothing stays the same, everything changes.... even climates.
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Unfortunately, this is a topic that is filled with much misinformation. Most people ask the wrong questions and the activists appear to be incapable of objectively looking at the numbers and instead consider the worst case scenario to be the most likely scenario. Is the climate warming? Of course it is, we are in an interglacial period and the climate has been warming for the last 12,000 years, and will continue to warm until we enter the next ice age. Is there an anthropogenic component to the warming? Of course there is because we know that there is a radiative transfer response to increases in CO2. How much of the current warming is anthropogenic? Perhaps 0.5C? We don't know for sure. Are we looking at catastrophic outcomes in the future? Probably not, but we don't really know. The dire predictions are based on climate models which, in my opinion, are still a research tool and have not been all that accurate with retrospective integrations. In addition, I believe there is a tendency to focus on the most extreme possibilities instead of the most likely possibility. Should we try to decrease CO2 emissions? Probably but in reality our best solutions will be adaptation as CO2 emissions are only going to go up for the next several decades. Regardless of the level of the anthropogenic warming, we will continue to warm because we are in an interglacial period. Should you try to decrease your carbon footprint? Sure, if it makes you happy but don't think that your individual actions will have an impact.

Full disclosure: undergraduate and graduate degrees in meteorology, retired research meteorologist and developer of atmospheric models for NASA and the National Weather Service.

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Just read the chart. It says, "with respect to the 1991-2020 base period." That's just 30 years of data. Not too hard to be one of the 10 warmest years in 30. It's junk, not science. Climate change is, of course, real. But this kind of propaganda doesn't help convince folks.

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