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Topspinmo 06-13-2022 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2105494)
One thing about the internet is you can always find an article to push an agenda.

More Than 70 Million Bake In Record-Breaking Southwest Heat Wave—And It’s Pushing East
It is middle June.

Topspinmo 06-13-2022 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2105817)
Interesting, you know this is not just being addressed in the US, but almost every other country agrees. So, this "conspiracy" of rich people getting rich off the scan, must include 99% of the scientists all over the world, not just here.

Could you provide any insight into how they are making money off of this?

Oh, and do you have a plan B if you are wrong? Do your kids or grandkids?
Studies and grants, the only way scientists make money.

Topspinmo 06-13-2022 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2105855)
The good news is some number of years after we are gone they will be able to figure out how much of global warming was in fact our fault.

Why would we care then….

Worldseries27 06-14-2022 05:17 AM
Wot! Wot!
 
Is the weather person on the rack
and i expect the children of hogwarts are running wild

MartinSE 06-14-2022 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2105899)
History of US? I've enjoyed reading old books. Panic, misinformation etc etc etc has been published in studies over and over again. I have a book about 1900 that predicts the end of female virtue due to the bicycle. I have another complete with graphs to give it credibility that if we do not switch to electric trucks always were good for short haul, stop and go deliveries the streets of NYC would have horse manure up to your waist.

When they write about us, surely they will have a laugh about what we thought. Exercise? Books will appear, of course with graphs as to how many people die on the way to the gym and pushing the machines. Bacon and salami? They didn't know were the cure for hydrophobia of the blowhole.
Thank you, you have opened my eyes, I didn't think of the scientists in the 1900's. It all makes sense now, all the scientists in the world are wrong. They were wrong once, so, there is no way we can ever trust them again.

Stu from NYC 06-14-2022 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2105949)
Thank you, you have opened my eyes, I didn't think of the scientists in the 1900's. It all makes sense now, all the scientists in the world are wrong. They were wrong once, so, there is no way we can ever trust them again.
Scientists develop theories and sometimes the theories are correct and are considered scientific laws. Othertime new info emerges and very often scientists have to rethink their previous beliefs.

People used to think that the planets orbited the earth. How did that work out?

MartinSE 06-14-2022 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2105979)
Scientists develop theories and sometimes the theories are correct and are considered scientific laws. Othertime new info emerges and very often scientists have to rethink their previous beliefs.

People used to think that the planets orbited the earth. How did that work out?
First, theories are demonstratable, hypotheses are ideas.

In science theories are always challenged, seldom does a theory gets thrown out, it gets modified as new evidence shows flaws, which results in an improved theory.

Everyone should rethink their beliefs periodically. We are all prone to believing things we think are true. Scientists on the other hand have a method of updating hypotheses and theories, it's called the Scientific Method. It does not rely on beliefs, or what the janitor's cousin says.

The scientific method has improved a little bit since planets were thought to orbit the earth. And there was a bit of "religion" involved in that also, which is one reason it is so important to separate religion (faith-based beliefs) from science (fact/theory-based beliefs)

JMintzer 06-14-2022 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2105912)
Why would we care then….
Because I care about what kind of world I'm going to leave for Keith Richards! :1rotfl:

JMintzer 06-14-2022 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2105985)
First, theories are demonstratable, hypotheses are ideas.

In science theories are always challenged, seldom does a theory gets thrown out, it gets modified as new evidence shows flaws, which results in an improved theory.

Everyone should rethink their beliefs periodically. We are all prone to believing things we think are true. Scientists on the other hand have a method of updating hypotheses and theories, it's called the Scientific Method. It does not rely on beliefs, or what the janitor's cousin says.

The scientific method has improved a little bit since planets were thought to orbit the earth. And there was a bit of "religion" involved in that also, which is one reason it is so important to separate religion (faith-based beliefs) from science (fact/theory-based beliefs)
And there are "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"...

OhioBuckeye 06-14-2022 08:38 AM
Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2105481)
Seems to me they base it on how much snow & ice is melting on the N. & S. Poles.

Sandy and Ed 06-14-2022 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2105493)
Why do you people have to be so snarky?
Obvious it's important enough to the poster, so either read it, don't read it and move on
without the remarks.
AMEN. !!!! Makes me want to look at these respondents past posts. Are they all snarky and dismissive?? I wonder.

MartinSE 06-14-2022 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2106047)
Seems to me they base it on how much snow & ice is melting on the N. & S. Poles.
It is a part of the information considered, but I think it is more a prediction of change that will add to the rate of change. If that makes sense.

Here is a NASA site that provides a lot of information and many links:

Scientific Consensus | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

MartinSE 06-14-2022 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2106072)
AMEN. !!!! Makes me want to look at these respondents past posts. Are they all snarky and dismissive?? I wonder.
Please do and let us know what you find.

kkingston57 06-14-2022 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2105909)
It is middle June.
But still springtime.

Keefelane66 06-14-2022 12:54 PM
235 million people in will US experience temperatures in the high 90’s with heat index up to 110° this week, midwest and mid Atlantic regions.


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