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sounding 07-11-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2233603)
I read the hearing report from AP, and Sagan's original paper on the subject. I'm not seeing that he misled anyone. He gave his theory, supported it with the scientific data available at the time, and brought it to the most likely conclusion. That's what science is all about. You pose a question, do fact finding and data gathering, and attempt to answer the question.

There might be facts you don't know yet - information missing, new technology able to reveal things you would not have been capable of knowing previously. And so your answer might change. That doesn't make it misleading. It just makes it inaccurate. You can be wrong, and not be lying.

He testified to Congress that CO2 was the primary cause of Venus 900 F surface temperature. That was a lie - and he knew it - or he fell asleep during astrophysics class.

golfing eagles 07-11-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234154)
There are over 100 glaciers that are growing. They are listed at Weather Club meetings.

How many times do I have to repeat it-----Don't confuse the zealots with the facts, it spoils the taste of their Kool-Aid. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 07-11-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2234162)
How many times do I have to repeat it-----Don't confuse the zealots with the facts, it spoils the taste of their Kool-Aid. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I am busy chugging--
Some of Glacier National Park's glaciers have lost as much as 80% of their size in the last 50 years | CNN

Bill14564 07-11-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234154)
There are over 100 glaciers that are growing. They are listed at Weather Club meetings.

Well that sounds like a good time.

What about the other estimated 199,900 glaciers?

golfing eagles 07-11-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2234166)

I know , Tal. We really should go back to 3 word sentences or even the nothing thread :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 07-11-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2234170)
I know , Tal. We really should go back to 3 word sentences or even the nothing thread :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


More actual information. Dramatic Decline in Multiyear Arctic Sea Ice - Ocean Conservancy

Bill14564 07-11-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234156)
He testified to Congress that CO2 was the primary cause of Venus 900 F surface temperature. That was a lie - and he knew it - or he fell asleep during astrophysics class.

Interesting. Sagan believed it then and every website I can find believes it today. Consensus may not be proof but it's a heck of a lot more convincing than unsubstantiated claims on ToTV.

fdpaq0580 07-11-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2233603)
I read the hearing report from AP, and Sagan's original paper on the subject. I'm not seeing that he misled anyone. He gave his theory, supported it with the scientific data available at the time, and brought it to the most likely conclusion. That's what science is all about. You pose a question, do fact finding and data gathering, and attempt to answer the question.

There might be facts you don't know yet - information missing, new technology able to reveal things you would not have been capable of knowing previously. And so your answer might change. That doesn't make it misleading. It just makes it inaccurate. You can be wrong, and not be lying.

You are right, but the climate change denier WEENIES don't want to hear it

golfing eagles 07-11-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2234196)
You are right, but the climate change denier WEENIES don't want to hear it

Sorry, but the label "weenies" has already been taken and defined. Think of something original, and not what that moron Joy whatever on "the view" that calls it a "dee-nye-yah"

Chi-Town 07-11-2023 12:49 PM

Michio Kaku is the Carl Sagan of the now. Wonder what his views on global warming are.

Taltarzac725 07-11-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 2234207)
Michio Kaku is the Carl Sagan of the now. Wonder what his views on global warming are.


Official Website of Dr. Michio Kaku

You could ask him! He requests that you do it on Facebook. He probably has answers about Global Warming on there.

And I found this-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnoJuQp8h3w

Two Bills 07-11-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2234198)
Sorry, but the label "weenies" has already been taken and defined. Think of something original, and not what that moron Joy whatever on "the view" that calls it a "dee-nye-yah"

"Pricks" comes to mind. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: :icon_wink:

fdpaq0580 07-11-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2233770)
I think that might qualify as gulping down a double dose of Kool-Aid. Fortunately, most of that post is untrue

BTW, It's not the scientific community that is conspiring----It is the "powers that be", the ones that will profit from this nonsense. The scientists are merely their pawns, with a gun to their head, trying to survive professionally and financially since to state the truth results in suicide. And of course, the media is all too happy to aid them in pushing this false narrative.

O M G !! I would be laughing if I thought you didn’t really mean that load of dung!! Check with your cult leader because what ever you're drinking or smoking is WAY beyond a a little cherry Kool-aid, my friend.

fdpaq0580 07-11-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2234198)
Sorry, but the label "weenies" has already been taken and defined. Think of something original, and not what that moron Joy whatever on "the view" that calls it a "dee-nye-yah"

Please consider my use of your "weenies" as an homag to one of my all time favs.

fdpaq0580 07-11-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by two bills (Post 2234212)
"pricks" comes to mind. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: :icon_wink:

ouch!


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