Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2166415)

OK, second bet. I'll bet that I have a lot more expertise than a "Google expert"

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166421)

I have no doubt that you believe that. Seriously, I don’t really care what you believe.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2166424)

So, in other words, you won't bet and concede.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166425)

Whatever makes you happy.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166241)

Best estimates have anthropogenic warming at about 1C. While we have been in an interglacial period for about 12,000 years and will continue to warm and experience the resultant increases in sea levels, there is concern that anthropogenic increases will also continue. The concern is essentially for the next 100 years. A further anthropogenic increase of 2-3 C would have geopolitical consequences. You can not find anyone who actually understands the science to dispute that there has been anthropogenic warming. What is debated is how much has occurred and how much more additional anthropogenic warming will occur. The current models tend to run warm in the equatorial mid-troposphere when retrospective run are examined. In my opinion, as someone who actually developed atmospheric models for the Government, the models are not really ready as a tool for developing public policy. Unfortunately, it is the 8.5 scenario that the media and politicians have focused on.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2166427)

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2166431)

To ease the handwringing and apoplectic worrying, a glimmer of hope:

Did anyone see the headlines yesterday stating US Scientists have made a major breakthrough in ‘limitless, zero-carbon’ fusion energy discovery? I would think if we can develop a vaccine in less than a year, we should be able to develop this fusion energy with lightspeed shortly, if this pans out. This appears to be phenomenal news!

*Notice I didn’t say implement, I said develop…

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166434)

I would not get too excited. There is often a big span between doing the basic science and engineering large scale production.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2166438)

There shouldn’t be a big span in this day and age of innovation and stock market investments to say nothing of the panicked global warming brigade. Of course, there probably will be pushback from the solar investors.

Sadly, hesitation on the USA’s part will give China control over that discovery too.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166439)

What was accomplished is the creation of more energy than went into the process. This is an important milestone but commercial production is still a long ways away.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2166440)

It is only a long ways off if desired. Will you and I see it’s implementation? Most likely not, but perhaps this discovery will lead to a successful solution. Global warming resolution isn’t required this minute, but it’s development needs to begin.

I’m somewhat surprised by the lack of enthusiasm by climate theorists. I would think they would be all over the discovery and examine it’s possibilities rather than panning the announcement.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166444)

Who panned it? I doubt you can find anyone who doesn’t think this is good progress. However, it will be a long time before we see commercial fusion power. How long? Who knows but I doubt within my lifetime.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2166432)

Ignorance is bliss.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2166462)

And that is a complete misquote.

What Thomas Gray wrote was "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." I see which path you have taken :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2166236)

Unfortunately, the current narrative by those with an agenda shows that they can.