Claims are fun, but data is better. So, let's try data versus narrative. How much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year? Since our climate leaders always tell us to follow the science, please provide the "science" you use to arrive at your answer.

Picking any specific time period comes with different answers depending on which forcing functions you are looking at, because we are currently under the influence of several competing warming and cooling cycles. However, using satellite data, it is clear that the Tonga volcano is causing the 2023-2024 heat wave, because all other explanations fail the data test.

Here we go again---that MYTH has been dispelled about a zillion times yet the MSM goes on pushing that false narrative at the behest of their masters. It gets worse every year. And then there are the lemmings that fall for it hook, line and sinker.

Dittos. You know it's all a fake show, because the climate alarmists NEVER demonstrate how they actually live in a net-zero or whatever they advocate, lifestyle. Leadership by example is always the winning message.

The Earth's HEAT has been increasing for 15 years with BIG increases in the last 5 years. Since the Tonga eruption happened in 2022, it was a factor in the Earth's heat after 2022, but can't be called the PRIMARY warming factor. The Earth was warming before 2022 due to internal combustion engine exhaust. And will continue for many years in the future, since there are so many deniers.

The Earth was also warming before 10,000 BC---was that due to internal combustion engines???? The Earth was much, much warmer 65 million years ago-----engines as well???? The last 5 or 15 years????--out of billions???? Don't make me laugh any harder.

Lots of words and no data. Anyone with a keyboard can make up words. So, let's try some data which is science based ... how much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year?

Earth's heat. You have the narrative ... I have the data. For example, this Chester County, PA graph shows how NOAA systematically alters temperature data - by cooling and past and warming the present - and like magic - we have a global warming crisis. Notice the max temps are trending down - because the global "data" shows global warming is slowing down.

Al Gore was RIGHT. But, there were at least 2 reasons why he became a pariah. 1st the oil and gas industry had a vested interest in the production of gasoline and diesel vehicles so they did NOT want to be told by Al Gore that their products were endangering the environment. They even resisted US government regulations to eliminate SMOG in our cities. They had propaganda experts attack everything about Al Gore. Secondly, he was the 1st non-scientist with a national following to speak up about clean air. Being the 1st to say that something like SMOG was a serious HEALTH problem leaves a person open to MASSIVE criticism.
.......Bottom line - Al Gore was a HERO to the clean environment movement, which was branded by the opposition as merely misguided "hippies".
..........Today scientists know that Al Gore was right. And as we can see by the HIGH summer temperatures and record heat in world oceans.( Also reef destruction and polar melting and animal species extinction). Today we see the world environment going to "hell in a hand basket"( interesting expression) !!!!!!

Al Gore was right? I don't think so. Show me just one climate forecast he got right.

Actually, I read that the 1991 Mt. Pinatubo eruption was about the same size as the Tonga eruption. Tonga was under water and Pinatubo was on land . Pinatubo COOLED the Earth for 2 years by .9 degree F. Which is no big deal. Tonga produced water vapor. Pinatubo produced black ash. Tonga warmed the Earth, but I did not read anything about how much.
.......One could assume that since both eruptions were about the same size that they would have about equal effect on the earth temperatures.
Therefore, the effect of Tonga would be equally SMALL.

95% of all Climate Scientists say that Global Warming is man made. And if a person would look at a graph of the rapid rise of the world population in the last 25 years - they would see the direct link. Large world population equals large factory and vehicle exhaust gas pollution, which is RESPONSIBLE for OUR NOTICEABLE Climate Change in the last 5 to 15 years.

Interesting the expression" that it gets WORSE every year" - because what also gets WORSE every year is the HEAT that the world experiences and we do here in Florida as the ocean and gulf temperatures reach RECORD levels. In this very topic in one of the earlier posts a man from Pa. talked about how bad it was "up north" there. The heat and the humidity and the excess mosquitoes are WORSE that years past - in his opinion.
..........so I ask .....as a CONCERNED US citizen ........Is the rejection of Electric Vehicles worth the change in people's lives (toward living with more heat). And should we be MORE concerned with the northward flow of Population into the US from as far south as Venezuela ? Because more population in a 1st world country means more industrial gas and VEHICLE gas causing temperature increases. And other bad things.

1. You didn't read much about Tonga, because the media refuses to talk about it, because its "water vapor" is causing the 2023-2024 warming spike -- and heaven forbid the public hears that water vapor is causing global warming -- because water vapor is the monster greenhouse gas.

2. Assumptions are fun to make, but again, data trumps those too. First - Tonga is causing about 0.8 C (or 1.4 degree F) warming, and is expected to very slowly cool because the water vapor was sent much higher into the stratosphere than Pinatubo's ash. The stratosphere is very stable and the water vapor will linger for years. Second - Pinatubo's ash is very different than Tonga's water vapor. Ash is not only heavier, but it was lower in the atmosphere - and thus fell out faster. The water vapor is still spreading globally (vertically and horizontally).

3. All this and much more will be discussed Aug 15 at 1 PM at Bridgeport.

Anyone can make a number like 95%. So if true, please list their names.

EV buses are hot ... https://x.com/NetworksManager/status...66690251620422

One person's laugh may NOT be the same as another person's laugh. I get a large GIGGLE when I fail to see the parallel between Worldwide temperature increases caused by greater populations in 1st world countries causing more industrial and vehicle pollution. And some changes that The Earth experienced millions of years ago. (giggle, giggle)

Anyone with a KEYBOARD can type into Google - why is the Earth warming in the last 15 years - why do scientists say the Earth is warming in last 15 years.? Why is CO2 gas so small, but IMPORTANT? Why are the Coral Reefs dying? Why is Alaska breaking temperature records? Why is the Gulf of Mexico at record temperatures? Why are so many animals worldwide going extinct? Could humans go extinct due to Global Warming. Are there temperatures at which humans can't exist. Is human overpopulation a problem? Do wars and pestilence still control population (as one old philosopher believed)/ Why did Death Valley have the world's record heat recently? Google can be a friend (if one uses it)!!!!!

That gave me a GIGGLE. I am expected to list all the names of the 95% of all WORLD (as in the whole world) Climate Scientists. I would have to be an A.I. robot to do that.

Again -- just lots of words - and no data. So, how much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year? Just Google it to find out -- it should be easy to find ... jeopardy them song music - Google Search

Give EVs batteries 20 more years of development and they will be way safer than gasoline vehicles. Actually, I am sure that they are today. And that fire could have been human error. Someone may have hooked up a charger incorrectly. We don't know how that investigation turned out.

Turns out that I was basically CORRECT about this. The latest research proves that. The Tonga water vapor initially lead to SPECULATION that it was the cause of the Global Warmth of 2023 and 2024. This NEW research can be found in The Environmental and Energy Leader, which I assume is a magazine for Scientists. Texas A+M scientist Dr. Andrew Dessler revealed surprising findings. They found that the Tonga eruption "actually COOLED the earth". (my note - repeat COOLED THE EARTH). "This finding redirects attention back to human caused greenhouse gas emissions as the CAUSE of recent warming trends". Dr. Mark Schoeberl was also involved.
.......The bottom line is that the Tonga eruption actually cooled the Earth, NOT warmed the Earth. Scientists say that the recent intense warming of the planet in the last few years is due to Greenhouse Gas Emissions such as factory and vehicle CO2 emissions.

Do you know the most amazing facet of this thread??

It's NOT that it is the umpteenth thread of this type

It's NOT that the indoctrinated, weak minded and gullible continue to parrot the talking points of those that financial benefit from the climate change agenda

It's NOT that some of us continually post THE FACTS, while others simply serve as "useful idiots" for their masters

It's that we are at post 63 and it has not yet been mysteriously shut down.

Like Einstein said, "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Claims that Tonga cools are absurd, as evident in attached image, where there is NO spike in CO2 -- but there is a spike in climate alarmism. All similar attempts to dismiss Tonga's heating effect will be debunked at the Tonga Talk - Aug 15 at 1 PM at Bridgeport.

You mean you're going to make yet another attempt to confuse them with the FACTS. Rotsa ruck:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Again -- another morning cooler than yesterday. Global warming is on a roll.

Unfortunately, global warming proponents and their acolytes roll on as well.

Here it is mid-summer and Greenland is reporting above normal "increases" of ice and snow -- and not a peep from the news ... Greenland’s Summer Looks More Like Winter Considering Large Ice Gains - Cold Weather Report

It is well known that some people feel a great need to be in CONTROL of everything and they become irate and agitated when that does not happen.That must be very frustrating!

It is difficult for me to believe that ANY person (myself definitely included) living in The Villages can know more than the Climate Researchers at Texas A+M that have submitted their work in for peer review. No one has to believe me, but also no one without a Climate Science degree can challenge the Texas A+M scientists that must have worked very hard to get this science CORRECT. The idea that Tonga WARMED the Earth was MERELY a 1st SPECULATION that is now DISPROVED. My advice would be to inform The Villages Climate Club of these NEWEST FINDINGS.

Strangely, that 1st graph shows nothing about CO2, but it does show what I have been trying to communicate.....namely that the Earth has been HEATING up dramatically in recent years. So thanks for the graph.
......I will have to look more closely at that 2nd graph to see what it is trying to communicate.

OK I got it now, that 2nd graph basically shows (also what I have been saying) that CO2 is increasing as the World Population is increasing. Not a big deal, we all can HOPEFULLY agree on that.

Confirmation bias gathering is fun, but it's not data. Fortunately, The Weather Club specializes in data. Please join us and celebrate global warming and CO2 -- because the alternative is deadly.

True --- and that is a good thing -- because we are in a CO2 famine ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnQo8l-BHc

If you read toward the bottom there is the statement that 2012 was the LOWEST point for ice. That last graph also shows a giant drop in ice in recent history. I once read that farmers are now able to grow crops in Greenland that were impossible to grow 30 years ago.
......When Climate scientists create the graph of the Earth's massive temperature rise in the last 15 years they are INTEGRATING ALL temperature locations on the EARTH. Obviously, there will be some FEW locations where more snow will occur, but they put ALL Earth locations TOGETHER to have a comprehensive SUMMARY.

You 2 should get a room, goodness

I will join you in your stating that we have Global Warming. I am in PERFECT AGREEMENT on that.

This is because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age -- which is expected to continue for about 100 years or so. It'll get cold after that. Trust me -- the sun has been producing these cycles for thousands of years - and there's nothing we can can do about it -- except adapt.

Even I can answer that graph in your YOU/Tube insert. The bottom axis is in MILLIONS of years, which makes it useless to a discussion about the last 15 years that I am saying that Climate Scientists are worried about. I am NOT a Paleantologist (I can't even spell it right), but I would GUESS that as the Earth COOLED the oxygen and nitrogen gas atoms replaced the CO2 atoms. And since we HUMANS breathe O2 then we were able to exist.

Normally, that might be the case. Unfortunately, the powers that be have mandated that anyone they have any control over fall in line and parrot the myth of anthropogenic climate change. Since most climatologists work for the government, work under a contract with the government or for a university, that accounts for most of them. Again, if anyone doubts this, just get a degree in climatology and apply for a grant to do research that would prove humans have nothing to do with global warming. Congratulations, you just committed professional suicide and your family will starve