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jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191125)
Six days ago NWS forecast Orlando would hit a high of 89, but that also busted with just 86. For some reason NWS still thinks earth is warming, even though satellite data shows otherwise. January data is very telling.

There is that MYSTERY graph that appears every 3 weeks like a ghost of global warming deniers PAST.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191548)
There is that MYSTERY graph that appears every 3 weeks like a ghost of global warming deniers PAST.

I think that I feel the burn of being burnt by anti-SCIENCE.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191216)
Bugs reminds me. I hear Panera has a "climate friendly" menu.

Yes, it is a special discounted menu for people that drive to Paneras in an E-vehicle, an E-bike, or walk.

Djean1981 02-25-2023 06:27 PM

Plants like CO2..

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Some people should spend their retirement years playing checkers to attain their maximum intellectual creativity.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Larchap49 (Post 2191287)
That's because their is no verification data to support global warming. Spend some of your valuable retirement time and research it. A few small glaciers in the northern hemisphere have receded but the ice pack in Antarctica is growing daily. The water levels that were supposed to flood islands in the south Pacific haven't moved in 30 years and very little in 1000 years. The research is available so stop listening to fake news and look it up. Also remember almost every item in your reach or sight that's not wood or metal comes from petroleum or is made by the use of it. Just on more hoax to get what THEY want and make more money and gain control

OK, now I see the grievous errors of my global warming ways. I see the light - praise the lords of TV Land climate science. I will begin to contact the 99% of scientists that are making a mistake by believing in Global Warming. Praise our TV Land Bubble saviors.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191288)
Does your thermometer meet the NOAA siting standards ... in a proper shelter (or shade), about 5 feet above ground, at least 100 feet from pavement & buildings, and away from other obstructions like trees, fences etc ... Site and Exposure Standards

I'll stick that thermometer 5 ft above ground.......to bad some are.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191294)
Research also shows there are at least 100 glaciers not melting and even growing. Otherwise, glaciers are taking up valuable land which could be used for better purposes -- like more solar panels and wind turbines.

As the song goes, "like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind".

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:45 PM

I keep waiting for the commercial about the monthly meeting of the weather or NOT club.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by loweglor (Post 2191330)
Climate change hoax? Enjoy your Kool Ade.

That IS a tricky post. The question mark means IS Climate Change a hoax? But then enjoy the kool ade (aka aid) means to question that it IS a hoax. ....................very confusing........needing a mind reader to interpret.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2191364)
Don't you have anything better to do. with your time?

Quite a good question. Soon we will get the monthly commercial about Weather Club Lunar lunacy.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lchughart@gmail.com (Post 2191432)
Climate alarmists are costing us, trillions in wasted tax money, we all want clean, air and water, but what they’re doing is just trying to grab the power from all of us and control us, stop it!

Just one big conspiracy theory with ALL 99% of Climate Scientists heavily sedated and drugged.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191434)
Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

Oh, look, Rover, pretty colors.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2191455)
Don’t waste your time on these brainwashed idiots who watch their favorite propaganda station all the time. They don’t even know the difference between climate and weather and they’ve been fooled into thinking the fossil-fuel industry is less biased than people who have dedicated their lives to understanding climate. I can’t believe they actually think scientists have more to gain than the fossil-fuel industry.

True that ! Nice to read some sanity for a change.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191462)
And there's the problem. People now talk about the WEST, when in reality, and climatologically, it is still the DESERT Southwest. Why are the lakes lowering ever faster ... any why are more people watering lawns in the middle of Deserts? And regarding less snow, etc ... well of course ... because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Get used to it. In the meantime, as the earth gets warmer, the air can hold more moisture -- and that's why, on a global scale, the climate is wetter. This is all in the climate history literature, which the media purposely avoids.

OK, now I get it. the EARTH is getting WARMER and that allows the air to store more moisture. But, there is NO Global Warming. Sure that makes sense. Now I understand.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:20 PM

Now, what about ALL that CO2 in the ocean and the upper atmosphere? Gee, I need some more clarification on that!

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191464)
??? Climate is wetter because the earth is warmer which is why there is less snow during the cooling trend as we are thawing out. Do YOU even believe what you write???

That confused me a TINY bit. But I am sure that the holy grail of warming denial can recenter us.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191473)
Yes, the "cooling" should have been worded "warming" ... it was chilly this morning ... and of course it was cooler than what was forecast. But, don't forget the current 7-year cooling trend, which San Francisco can attest to, as they just broke a 100-year cold record ... Cold San Francisco Sets New Record Low for Temperature – NBC Bay Area

Oh contrair, it is an 8-year WARMING period.

sounding 02-25-2023 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191506)
Argue that point in another thread. The links in the post you responded to simply show that the claim of a 7-year cooling trend is BS.

And there you have it. You don't have an answer because there is no man-made climate change. Welcome to the world's greatest scam in history.

sounding 02-25-2023 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191587)
Oh contrair, it is an 8-year WARMING period.

Show me the data.

Bill14564 02-25-2023 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191589)
And there you have it. You don't have an answer because there is no man-made climate change. Welcome to the world's greatest scam in history.

Haha! Nice try!

sounding 02-25-2023 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191575)
OK, now I get it. the EARTH is getting WARMER and that allows the air to store more moisture. But, there is NO Global Warming. Sure that makes sense. Now I understand.

The confusion comes from CNN and the likes. Yes, we are warming as we slowly thaw out from the Little Ice Age. During that thawing over the past 300+ years, there have been many ups and downs. Currently we are in the latest "down" or cooling period -- for 7 years now. It may continue going down and or it may later continue its thawing trend -- no one knows. But the important point is, as CO2 continues to skyrocket upwards, the global temperature sinks downwards. E.G., the man-made climate change narrative is a hoax -- a scam -- CO2 is not a control knob -- it's plant food.

sounding 02-25-2023 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191592)
Haha! Nice try!

Ok, let's see if you can do what Al Gore is afraid to do ... identify how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. This should be very easy to find, since so many actually know for sure that CO2 is a control knob. Hint ... there's a reason why no one can find the answer.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2191555)
Plants like CO2..

True that, but large numbers of plants and forests like in the Amazon Rain forest have been plowed under such that plants can NOT ABSORB all the greater CO2 produced by ICE vehicles. Remember China is overcrowded and its middle class is buying more ICE vehicles. There IS EXCESS CO2 and the earth TRIES to store it in the oceans and upper atmosphere. In the upper atmosphere, it caused the reflection of heat waves and the earth WARMING. In the ocean, it kills the coral reefs.
...... The solution is to buy E-vehicles and E-bike, which MANY, MANY residents of TV Land are buying.

Bill14564 02-25-2023 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191595)
Ok, let's see if you can do what Al Gore is afraid to do ... identify how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. This should be very easy to find, since so many actually know for sure that CO2 is a control knob. Hint ... there's a reason why no one can find the answer.

Let’s make this easier for you… if you want to have that discussion then start another thread.

In this thread I’m still waiting for you to explain how YOU are right about a 7-year cooling trend while so many others are calling BS on it.

jimjamuser 02-25-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191595)
Ok, let's see if you can do what Al Gore is afraid to do ... identify how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. This should be very easy to find, since so many actually know for sure that CO2 is a control knob. Hint ... there's a reason why no one can find the answer.

Al Gore - the favorite punching bag of the anti-Scientists.

sounding 02-25-2023 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191596)
True that, but large numbers of plants and forests like in the Amazon Rain forest have been plowed under such that plants can NOT ABSORB all the greater CO2 produced by ICE vehicles. Remember China is overcrowded and its middle class is buying more ICE vehicles. There IS EXCESS CO2 and the earth TRIES to store it in the oceans and upper atmosphere. In the upper atmosphere, it caused the reflection of heat waves and the earth WARMING. In the ocean, it kills the coral reefs.
...... The solution is to buy E-vehicles and E-bike, which MANY, MANY residents of TV Land are buying.

Again, you repeat propaganda with no supporting data. First question ... why do corals like to live in the world's warmest waters? Second question ... why did corals experience their greatest diversity when CO2 levels were much higher than today. Answer 1 ... corals love warmer waters. Answer 2 ... CO2 is food for coral reef creation ... more CO2 = bigger reefs. Here is some more info ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OMm88XQZoQ

sounding 02-25-2023 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Hot Update. Seven days ago NOAA forecast record-breaking 91 degree heat for Orland on Feb 25. It only reached 87, but they did achieve their goal of perpetual alarmism for a non-problem.

mtdjed 02-25-2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2190862)
Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

The whole concept of a one day record in Orlando confirming man-made global warming is the stuff of idiots. Even though it didn't happen, it makes no difference.

In February 2023 New England had record lows. Does that mean man-made global cooling is happening. No. Comments like the one stated in the OP stated source are meaningless. Single site lowest or highest temps recorded for a single day happen daily somewhere on this world and only on those spots measured. Please don't waste time trying to justify global trends on single data points.

The single site data below says it was damn cold. Nothing else.

Beyond Mount Washington’s mind-boggling wind chill of minus-108, the actual air temperature scored at the summit was minus-46.2 at minimum — a new February record for New Hampshire. That coincided with wind gusts topping 110 mph. The Weather Service office serving the area tweeted that the wind chill was so low that its software for logging such data “refuses to include it!”

Two Bills 02-26-2023 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191434)
Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

Have you seen pictures of Venice or the Po River in Italy recently?

sounding 02-26-2023 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2191658)
The whole concept of a one day record in Orlando confirming man-made global warming is the stuff of idiots. Even though it didn't happen, it makes no difference.

In February 2023 New England had record lows. Does that mean man-made global cooling is happening. No. Comments like the one stated in the OP stated source are meaningless. Single site lowest or highest temps recorded for a single day happen daily somewhere on this world and only on those spots measured. Please don't waste time trying to justify global trends on single data points.

The single site data below says it was damn cold. Nothing else.

Beyond Mount Washington’s mind-boggling wind chill of minus-108, the actual air temperature scored at the summit was minus-46.2 at minimum — a new February record for New Hampshire. That coincided with wind gusts topping 110 mph. The Weather Service office serving the area tweeted that the wind chill was so low that its software for logging such data “refuses to include it!”

Good information and more evidence of the 7-year cooling trend. Plus, many actually claim those record breaking cold events are "global warming" caused. Of course we know this is just more junk science, where even "the genius" John Holdren tried to go down that path ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQSSOnJgPpY

Bill14564 02-26-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191739)
Good information and more evidence of the 7-year cooling trend. Plus, many actually claim those record breaking cold events are "global warming" caused. Of course we know this is just more junk science, where even "the genius" John Holdren tried to go down that path ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQSSOnJgPpY

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191600)
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In this thread I’m still waiting for you to explain how YOU are right about a 7-year cooling trend while so many others are calling BS on it.

... and still waiting.

Two Bills 02-26-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191766)
... and still waiting.

Probably until Hell freezes over!:smiley:

sounding 02-26-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191766)
... and still waiting.

Here's the data -- paid for by our taxes ... https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v...cdc_lt_6.0.txt

Bill14564 02-26-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191795)
Here's the data -- paid for by our taxes ... https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v...cdc_lt_6.0.txt

So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

sounding 02-26-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191803)
So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

You follow confirmation bias -- I follow data. Government data (both satellite and surface) temperature data show a 7-year cooling trend. Go ahead and plot the data, then show me your graph. What could go wrong?

Bill14564 02-26-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191813)
You follow confirmation bias -- I follow data. Government data (both satellite and surface) temperature data show a 7-year cooling trend. Go ahead and plot the data, then show me your graph. What could go wrong?

Take a look at that Post #67 (can’t believe I’m writing that out again!), that is EXACTLY what I did

sounding 02-26-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191803)
So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

Here's my graph of the satellite data, 7-year cooling trend. I don't see your graph -- please post again.

Bill14564 02-26-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191850)
Here's my graph of the satellite data, 7-year cooling trend. I don't see your graph -- please post again.

Last time I am going to write this: follow the link above to Post #67 on the other thread. If you still don’t see the image then unblock me and you will.

sounding 02-26-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191852)
Last time I am going to write this: follow the link above to Post #67 on the other thread. If you still don’t see the image then unblock me and you will.

How did you graph the data? I used Excel.


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