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sounding 02-26-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191803)
So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

You follow confirmation bias -- I follow data. Government data (both satellite and surface) temperature data show a 7-year cooling trend. Go ahead and plot the data, then show me your graph. What could go wrong?

Bill14564 02-26-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191813)
You follow confirmation bias -- I follow data. Government data (both satellite and surface) temperature data show a 7-year cooling trend. Go ahead and plot the data, then show me your graph. What could go wrong?

Take a look at that Post #67 (can’t believe I’m writing that out again!), that is EXACTLY what I did

sounding 02-26-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191803)
So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

Here's my graph of the satellite data, 7-year cooling trend. I don't see your graph -- please post again.

Bill14564 02-26-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191850)
Here's my graph of the satellite data, 7-year cooling trend. I don't see your graph -- please post again.

Last time I am going to write this: follow the link above to Post #67 on the other thread. If you still don’t see the image then unblock me and you will.

sounding 02-26-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191852)
Last time I am going to write this: follow the link above to Post #67 on the other thread. If you still don’t see the image then unblock me and you will.

How did you graph the data? I used Excel.

Bill14564 02-26-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191861)
How did you graph the data? I used Excel.

I know you did. That (using Excel) was how I was able to replicate your chart before creating mine.

sounding 02-26-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191863)
I know you did. That (using Excel) was how I was able to replicate your chart before creating mine.

Ok, now I see it -- below my graph. Thanks. Your graph shows the longer term warming trend, which started at the end of the Little Ice Age. Mine shows the shorter term 7-year cooling trend. Each tipping point has a starting point. Maybe the graph will later turn warmer again as the Little Ice Age thawing continues -- but no nobody knows. The important question is ... why the 7-year cooling while CO2 continues its upward track?

Bill14564 02-26-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191870)
Ok, now I see it -- below my graph. Thanks. Your graph shows the longer term warming trend, which started at the end of the Little Ice Age. Mine shows the shorter term 7-year cooling trend. Each tipping point has a starting point. Maybe the graph will later turn warmer again as the Little Ice Age thawing continues -- but no nobody knows. The important question is ... why the 7-year cooling while CO2 continues its upward track?

There is no cooling trend. As explained in each of the links debunking that claim, the “trend” is a misunderstanding of data analysis or an intentional misrepresentation of the data.

You keep making the claim and I’ll keep posting the links to the debunking.

sounding 02-26-2023 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2191873)
There is no cooling trend. As explained in each of the links debunking that claim, the “trend” is a misunderstanding of data analysis or an intentional misrepresentation of the data.

You keep making the claim and I’ll keep posting the links to the debunking.

So why is there no warming for 7 years when CO2 keeps climbing?

JMintzer 02-26-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191545)
In some people's minds, it is more important than a crime report with the number of murders.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191546)
Was that mentor a professor of mass insignificance?

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191548)
There is that MYSTERY graph that appears every 3 weeks like a ghost of global warming deniers PAST.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191549)
I think that I feel the burn of being burnt by anti-SCIENCE.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191551)
Yes, it is a special discounted menu for people that drive to Paneras in an E-vehicle, an E-bike, or walk.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191557)
Some people should spend their retirement years playing checkers to attain their maximum intellectual creativity.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191560)
OK, now I see the grievous errors of my global warming ways. I see the light - praise the lords of TV Land climate science. I will begin to contact the 99% of scientists that are making a mistake by believing in Global Warming. Praise our TV Land Bubble saviors.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191561)
I'll stick that thermometer 5 ft above ground.......to bad some are.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191564)
As the song goes, "like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind".

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191565)
I keep waiting for the commercial about the monthly meeting of the weather or NOT club.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191566)
That IS a tricky post. The question mark means IS Climate Change a hoax? But then enjoy the kool ade (aka aid) means to question that it IS a hoax. ....................very confusing........needing a mind reader to interpret.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191567)
Quite a good question. Soon we will get the monthly commercial about Weather Club Lunar lunacy.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191569)
Just one big conspiracy theory with ALL 99% of Climate Scientists heavily sedated and drugged.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191570)
Oh, look, Rover, pretty colors.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191572)
True that ! Nice to read some sanity for a change.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191575)
OK, now I get it. the EARTH is getting WARMER and that allows the air to store more moisture. But, there is NO Global Warming. Sure that makes sense. Now I understand.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191577)
Now, what about ALL that CO2 in the ocean and the upper atmosphere? Gee, I need some more clarification on that!

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191584)
That confused me a TINY bit. But I am sure that the holy grail of warming denial can recenter us.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2191587)
Oh contrair, it is an 8-year WARMING period.

That's gotta' be a record...

Two Bills 02-28-2023 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2191434)
Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

Really not interested in any selective data from either side of the argument.
I know winters are warmer from a simple fact.
I have grown Dahlias all my working life, and 65 years ago you had to lift them before winter or they would not survive in the ground.
Been leaving them in the ground for at least last 10-15 years, and never lose any, unless a very wet winter, and a few may rot off.
Winters are warmer.
DATA from my garden!

sounding 02-28-2023 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2192418)
Really not interested in any selective data from either side of the argument.
I know winters are warmer from a simple fact.
I have grown Dahlias all my working life, and 65 years ago you had to lift them before winter or they would not survive in the ground.
Been leaving them in the ground for at least last 10-15 years, and never lose any, unless a very wet winter, and a few may rot off.
Winters are warmer.
DATA from my garden!

That "selective" data is important "recent" data which shows current, slight cooling. However, you are correct, because in the longer term, the winters are warmer. Everyone who attends the Weather Club knows that. (The public is being purposely kept in the dark about that.) The attached AMO (Atlantic Multi-decadal Index) shows the warming/cooling trends. The eastern U.S. is currently warmer than before ... and before that cooler ... and before that warmer -- it's a cycle. The western U.S. has been cooler because the Pacific (PDO) is cooling -- another cycle. Also, our summers are slowing cooling because of that PDO. All this (and more) to be discussed (again) at the next Weather Club meeting ... The Villages Weather Club


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