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jimjamuser 07-12-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2234416)
You understand how that sounds to someone looking into the situation. Some areas will be wetter than usual, with some being drier. Some locations hotter, yet others cooler. It reminds me of that old Carlin Weather skit. Today, sunny, till sunset then turning darker. Nothing anyone says will sway another. We have been deceived and lied to so often that it is difficult to accept anything as fact. Unfortunate.

There is a new book out by David Lipsky about the HISTORY of climate change science and how and why deniers crop up to counter the scientific facts. It could be an interesting read.

jimjamuser 07-12-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2234476)
It’s only going to get warmer.

That is what is predicted to keep INCREASING for the next 8 years. I read that in about 4 years GM is expected to be advertising and selling ELECTRIC CARS at a rate of about 30% of all new car sales. If that actually happens, then we can hope that it leads to decreasing climate change.

Dusty_Star 07-12-2023 12:59 PM

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Dusty_Star 07-12-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234481)
That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

:BigApplause:

jimjamuser 07-12-2023 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234481)
That's why I don't watch news - it's mostly propaganda. I instead watch the data, which says there is no climate crisis.

The crop yields on that graph only go up to 2018. Which means almost nothing compared to what is happening right now.....TODAY. Today due to the record HEAT, the crops in the Midwest are ALL in danger of crop failure, a bad harvest, problems for farmers, and price increases for the average US citizen.
The record Gulf Water heat makes scientists worry about dying CORAL reefs around Florida - which COULD destroy the Florida fishing industry and sport fishing. The Coral reefs are the ecosystem that produces the environment for Florida fishing. As the Coral Reefs die, the Florida fishing industry dies.

Normal 07-12-2023 01:23 PM

Ameliorate
 
Seriously, if we are warming or cooling, can it currently be fixed? Will it be? We all know it’s about blame. I have my doubts anyone in government can fix the Earth’s orbiting closer to the sun. We will need to wait another 80,000 years. If Yellowstone erupts, things may level out sooner I guess.

jimjamuser 07-12-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2234505)
I don't know if you realize or not but you just blew up your own climate change denial thesis with your own slide. Here is the remainder of the NASA article that you failed to include:
While rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can be beneficial for plants, it is also the chief culprit of climate change. The gas, which traps heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been increasing since the industrial age due to the burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years. The impacts of climate change include global warming, rising sea levels, melting glaciers and sea ice as well as more severe weather events. I don't see any mention of the Earth getting cooler in this NASA report…… The one you posted.

Well done. That pretty much SETTLES any and all arguments on this subject. It amazes me how the deniers keep banging their heads up against the settled science about Global Warming. The fossil fuel industry has spent a lot of money to DENY the science, but even so.....by now we can see all the evidence around us - the receding glaciers, the rising oceans, the dying Coral Reefs, the worldwide RECORD temperature increases, and the layer of CO2 in the upper atmosphere.

Normal 07-12-2023 01:42 PM

No science
 
It’s an amazing thing…lol

According to Left Wing Extremism

Global warming is caused by too much Co2 blanketing the earth and thus it causes heat retention. A byproduct of this theory would actually be more rain than usual. Drought doesn’t fit in the “Global Warming” paradigm. They throw anything to see if it sticks. Actually Carbon dioxide doesn’t retain heat at all anyway. It cools 22 F in 3 minutes and 45 seconds. It cannot possibly retain heat and certainly not do so from day to day.

The manure gets higher from the alarmist’s too. The clown car will actually try and convince some that the moisture escapes and then clouds and atmospheric holes quickly close again for heat? How “convenient “…Where is the science? Where is the logic? Retain the heat, but oh no, not the moisture. What a laughable pack. CO2 can’t retain heat and if heat was retained, moisture would not be left out.

allsport 07-12-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2234158)
What happened to the drought? I thought it was a climate crisis.

Amazing that so many educated people supposedly live here and yet none understand climate change and weather extremes. How about 97 temp in the water in the Keys or did you not here that.

sounding 07-12-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by allsport (Post 2234593)
Amazing that so many educated people supposedly live here and yet none understand climate change and weather extremes. How about 97 temp in the water in the Keys or did you not here that.

Corals love very warm water. That's why the live in very water waters. There is fossil evidence that they lived in more regions millions of years ago when the climate was warmer. Corals are now restricted to the equatorial areas due to global cooling - as we are in the Pleistocene Ice Age. Go down to the Keys later this year and you'll find the corals doing just fine - because the media won't report good news.

sounding 07-12-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2234578)
Well done. That pretty much SETTLES any and all arguments on this subject. It amazes me how the deniers keep banging their heads up against the settled science about Global Warming. The fossil fuel industry has spent a lot of money to DENY the science, but even so.....by now we can see all the evidence around us - the receding glaciers, the rising oceans, the dying Coral Reefs, the worldwide RECORD temperature increases, and the layer of CO2 in the upper atmosphere.

Enjoy your golf games, beaches, cruises, and seaside mansions. Our climate is doing just fine.

Bwanajim 07-12-2023 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2234226)
I must say, I find your logic to be rather confused.

For decades, the scientists have been saying that climate change will cause some areas to be wetter than usual, and other areas to be drier. Likewise, some areas will be hotter than usual whereas others will be colder.

Yet, when exactly what they predicted is actually taking place, you cite this as evidence that climate change is not real?

The climate has been changing for millions of years, long before man. Al Gore in the 1970s say Florida would be underwater in 20-30 years? The polar ice caps would melt in 10-20 years? First it was a coming Ice Age then it was global warming and they were both proven wrong. They changed it to “climate change to cover any difference, up or down in temperature. And all these wealthy, global warming enthusiast are flying around in their private jets.
Do you know the hottest recorded temperature ever in the US was in 1913? Don’t think we had a lot of man-made Greenhouse gases back then.🤷🏼*♂️

Normal 07-12-2023 04:10 PM

Furnace Creek
 
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Originally Posted by Bwanajim (Post 2234632)
The climate has been changing for millions of years, long before man. Al Gore in the 1970s say Florida would be underwater in 20-30 years? The polar ice caps would melt in 10-20 years? First it was a coming Ice Age then it was global warming and they were both proven wrong. They changed it to “climate change to cover any difference, up or down in temperature. And all these wealthy, global warming enthusiast are flying around in their private jets.
Do you know the hottest recorded temperature ever in the US was in 1913? Don’t think we had a lot of man-made Greenhouse gases back then.*♂️

No one would have wanted to be in Furnace Creek on July 10, 1913 (aptly named). 131 degrees is still the all time record for the US. Of course there could have been warmer temperatures there in the early west, but thermometers wouldn’t have been available before Gabriel’s invention in 1714.

Two Bills 07-13-2023 04:07 AM

Suppose we should be grateful we are in an 8 year cooling phase.
Southern Europe will be well pleased.

Cerberus heatwave: Hot weather sweeps across southern Europe - BBC News

Vermilion Villager 07-13-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwanajim (Post 2234632)
The climate has been changing for millions of years, long before man. Al Gore in the 1970s say Florida would be underwater in 20-30 years? The polar ice caps would melt in 10-20 years? First it was a coming Ice Age then it was global warming and they were both proven wrong. They changed it to “climate change to cover any difference, up or down in temperature. And all these wealthy, global warming enthusiast are flying around in their private jets.
Do you know the hottest recorded temperature ever in the US was in 1913? Don’t think we had a lot of man-made Greenhouse gases back then.🤷🏼*♂️

Actually Al Gore did not say any of that. Back in the 2007 documentary titled "An inconvenient truth" Al Gore said in 50 to 70 years during the summer months the polar ice caps could be completely melted. Also, he never made any prediction about Florida be an underwater at any time. It always amazes me how folks like you make up… And yes that is a polite way of saying lie about the fact and then try to add somebody's name to it that you don't like. Here's a little tip… It is very easy to fact check any of this.

Taltarzac725 07-13-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2235007)
Actually Al Gore did not say any of that. Back in the 2007 documentary titled "An inconvenient truth" Al Gore said in 50 to 70 years during the summer months the polar ice caps could be completely melted. Also, he never made any prediction about Florida be an underwater at any time. It always amazes me how folks like you make up… And yes that is a polite way of saying lie about the fact and then try to add somebody's name to it that you don't like. Here's a little tip… It is very easy to fact check any of this.

Al Gore on Climate Crisis: 'We Have the Solutions, But We’ve Got to Move Faster' | Hubert H. Humphrey School of Public Affairs

Worth a look. There were some students in my U of MN dorm that were getting MAs from this school. Or, maybe, even Ph.Ds.


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