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MidWestIA 03-21-2024 12:03 PM

Florida summers are ridiculously hot - that's not the bad part HIGH humidity so people go out in the mornings or evenings

Dilligas 03-21-2024 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop63 (Post 2313595)
For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I grew up in the upper midwest and didn't leave until several years after college. In Minnesota, the temperatures regularly dropped below zero between Christmas and New years and didn't come back above until February. You could always count on a Mid March to Mid April snow storm. I lived in St. Louis for 12 years and they had the absolute worst weather in both summer (temps above 100 with high humidity) and winter (ice storms and sleet and below zero temps). I have lived in the desert west Texas for 15 years and Florida for 24 and have the firm belief that those who like 4 seasons don't know any better. Florida temps in mid summer are usually in low 90s with a cooling breeze off the ocean. Sun shines almost every day. You always have a pool to jump into, or A/C facility to go into. I have never had FL heat/humidity so bad it burned my lungs to breathe (like in St. Louis) and never had ice to chip or snow to shovel or had to start the car 5 minutes early to allow it to warm up, like Minnesota and Wisconsin. Yes, the first year (or 2) may require come getting used to, but it is easy....and a good time to plan your traveling.

Justputt 03-21-2024 02:13 PM

As a kid, I grew up on the Eastern Shore (MD), with the Chesapeake Bay on one side and Atlantic Ocean on the other. The heat and humidity seemed to be in lockstep, always hot and humid. My wife is from Rangeley, Maine and knows cold and grew up in PA for the most part. We've lived in hot humid areas and really cold areas, and we both prefer hot over cold, especially since cool ocean/gulf water is so easily accessible and A/C is our friend in between. We liked Texoma (North Texas) where we raised our kids because we had heat with no humidity and winter was usually "Do I need a coat today?", but it lacked...... everything else.

rustyp 03-21-2024 02:18 PM

The answer is :
Winter in Florida (TV)
Summer far up north (in the mountains on a lake)
But we all knew that anyways. It's more a matter of what you can afford.

DDToto41 03-21-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop63 (Post 2313595)
For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I lived most of my life up North. Born in Ohio and lived there until I was 49. Then I got a job in Tennessee for 7 years, Michigan for 4.5 years and Indiana for 3 Years. I spent 9 Mo in Montana, in the Air Force, where the temperature got to 49 degrees below zero, there I decided to retire to Florida. I moved here in Dec. 2005 and live here ever since. I go back to Ohio to visit siblings and find I need a sweater or jacket when I'm up there, I'm so used to the warmth of Florida now. I used to love the 4 seasons.

Kelevision 03-21-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2313616)
Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

TV isn’t on the coast. No leaving for hurricanes.

LeRoySmith 03-21-2024 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2314074)
Florida summers are ridiculously hot - that's not the bad part HIGH humidity so people go out in the mornings or evenings

Us fat boys dont like humidity

Brynnie 03-21-2024 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop63 (Post 2313595)
For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

We have lived in TV for 19 years. I hated winters in Ohio and always thought summer didn’t last long enough. After all these years down here, I’m sick of the brutal summers. It’s just too hot to do anything outside, and the humidity can be a killer. I regret not being a snowbird, but we didn’t want to maintain two houses. I’m ready to move back north, if I could convince my spouse.

Think twice before becoming a year round resident.

LeRoySmith 03-21-2024 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brynnie (Post 2314122)
We have lived in TV for 19 years. I hated winters in Ohio and always thought summer didn’t last long enough. After all these years down here, I’m sick of the brutal summers. It’s just too hot to do anything outside, and the humidity can be a killer. I regret not being a snowbird, but we didn’t want to maintain two houses. I’m ready to move back north, if I could convince my spouse.

Think twice before becoming a year round resident.

we are maintaining 2 houses and it stinks, we are going to become full timers knowing that we may need to vacation in the north for july and august

BrianToothill 03-21-2024 04:03 PM

Easier to put on flip flops than boots

BrianToothill 03-21-2024 04:04 PM

Easier to put on flip flops than boots !!

Stu from NYC 03-21-2024 04:20 PM

Before we decided to move here we rented for the entire month of June to see how we would deal with a Florida summer.

Decided we could headed back north and shortly thereafter put our house up for sale.

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop63 (Post 2313595)
For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

"The grey and lack of sun", actually can be a positive because you don't get skin cancer.

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2313599)
In all honestly, I would rent in a warmer area whether it be TV's or not and break up the winter cold that way. If you find that you absolutely love a certain area after 4-5 years, then considering moving. It's surprising how the shine wears off of something you thought you'd love forever and Florida summers are ridiculously hot.

DANGEROUSLY hot. And with G.W. it gets hotter every summer.

JMintzer 03-21-2024 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2313724)
That doesn’t sound like living....sounds like surviving. If you choose that kind of summer, to each his own. The difference is the Mid Atlantic states and New England just as an example, those regions the temps and humidity are variable. You can go out any time of the day...less a couple heatwaves on average. You honestly cannot say that about FL

I've been visiting FL (many times in the summer) for well over 40 years...

And yes, I can honestly say that about FL...

Yes, last summer was quite hot and humid. But the summer before that was much more comfortable...

rustyp 03-21-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2314126)
we are maintaining 2 houses and it stinks, we are going to become full timers knowing that we may need to vacation in the north for july and august

I suspect house #1 was easy to give up ????

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2314166)
DANGEROUSLY hot. And with G.W. it gets hotter every summer.

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jimjamuser 03-21-2024 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2313619)
I'll take swamp ass over these winters any day. Full disclosure, I haven't spent a whole summer there yet. But still, I can jump in a pool or the AC in the house. I'm done with winter. Done.

Hate to mention it, but by July , August, and Sept, the pool water is as HOT as bathwater. Unless you can bring a truckload of ice with you to the pool, there will be LITTLE relief. And if you have any color of car other than white, or silver, you will literally burn your hand, as in ooowwweeee big time. PS get a white cover for your steering wheel.

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by C. C. Rider (Post 2313628)
It actually gets hotter in many parts of the mid-west and upper mid-west during summer than it does here in Florida. Yes, we'll get temps of 93* or so on a pretty regular basis during the summer, but temps above 95* or 96* are rare while in the mid-west, they often hit 97* or hotter several times during a typical summer.

Edit to add: A person quickly learns to do their outside summer activities in Florida in early morning when the temps are upper 70's or mid-morning when they are mid 80's. Don't wait til afternoon to start your pickleball or tennis game.

Absolute temperature in Florida means absolutely nothing. The temperature in degrees combines with the high humidity plus the stronger sun in Florida to make it feel HOTTER than ANYTHING experienced up-north.

LeRoySmith 03-21-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2314168)
I suspect house #1 was easy to give up ????

House 1 was a breeze to leave, number 2 is giving us a little more trouble but we are still doing it. We will be down to just the one in TV by this time next year. I hope!

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2313742)
Are our friends lying when they tell us they are leaving TV when a hurricane warning is up? They stayed for one and they won’t do that again.

There may not be a direct hit but there can be flooding, loss of electricity and wind damage closing the rec centers, golf courses, restaurants and businesses.

When, in recent memory, has that happened in TV?

Yes, I'm aware of that time when there were tornados that hit TV in 2007.

But the last two major (and many, many minor) hurricanes caused minimal damage. A bit of golf course flooding (which they are designed to do), a few MMP tunnels flooded and a few lost power for a short time...

The State of FL used land in TV for a staging area for the massive influx of repair crews that came to the state in preparation for the storms...

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2313632)
Depends on who you talk to here. Having grown up and lived in the Upper Midwest til we moved here 15 yrs ago---it was THE best decision. The saying is (or question)---would you rather shovel sunshine or snow. The last 3 winters we were up north---there were record snow-falls. Had to shovel out first thing in the morning then again to get vehicles in the garage after work. IF you enjoy winters like that---so be it. Here, you can go inside where the "air" is on but the sun may be shining outside. We don't do activities outside during the midday in summer. As for hurricanes....the effects we experience here is wind and rain, not what you see on t.v. news. That's always on the coasts.

In the PAST, the hurricanes stayed on the coast, but worldwide the oceans have been warming for the last 11 years, so they could bust-through into central Florida now.

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2313745)
Is there a shortage of AC and pools up north?!

You’re kind of proving the point with ‘TV is a ghost town in the summer’ ....where do you think all your neighbors retreated to? You’re clearly in the minority. It’s been stated by many posters across many threads that they no longer own homes up north so trying to convince yourself that a FL summer isn’t that bad kind of rings hollow

There are many snowbird renters who only want to (or maybe can only afford to) rent over the winter... Not everyone who leaves is a frog...

Right now, I'm a "snowflake". I come and go when I can. But I've spent multiple multi-week stretches in TV in every season... My wife spends about 4-5 months/year in TV. She has no issues with the heat...

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Berwin (Post 2313849)
Back in my Army days, I was out in the field (Alps) one time when it was 32 below zero not counting wind chill. Still better than some of the hottest summer days around here. I've also been in the field (desert) when it was way above 100 in full MOPP gear and that was worse than Florida. My experience is you can always put more clothes on but there is a limit to how few you can wear (at least in Florida).

Don't be so sure...

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ashiecat1954 03-21-2024 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2313616)
Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

Well, it all depends on where you live. I lived in St Louis and they plowed regularly after snow, I moved to Plato, MO where they hardly ever came down my dirt road so I was homebound until enough of my neighbors with 4 wheel drive packed down the snow. And TV hasn't had problems with hurricanes, the worst of them hits the coast and they aren't near as strong if/when they come by.

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2313740)
I’ll take a HHH summer day in Florida over a winter day up north seven days a week and twice on Sunday. I like the heat way more than cold and ice. Plus, we have a pool and A/C in Florida and often suffer from the heat during the summer up north without either. The only thing I hate about summers in Florida is the friggin lightning. Since I enjoy swimming (water is a great conductor of electricity) and golfing (being in an open area with a bag of lightning rods), the lightning can frequently put a damper on things. Plus, the Villages is a ghost town in the summer compared to the winter. Cheap golf and no crowds are very easy to get used to.

Actually PURE WATER does NOT conduct electricity, the impurities in the water do.

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2313989)
Of course their are...but isolated at best. FL... All of FL is under constant threat from now til November. Every year. Is what it is

Hurricane season starts in June...

And "ALL" of FL?

And please refresh my memory... When was the last time a hurricane hit TV?

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2314046)
And you won’t have a heatstroke shoveling snow..:wave:

No, just a heart attack...

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2313795)
yes, it's hot and humid here during the summer. that's why air conditioning and pools were invented.

That's why in about 1950 Florida had about 6 million people (all living on the coast) - because A/C was NOT widely available.

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2314178)
In the PAST, the hurricanes stayed on the coast, but worldwide the oceans have been warming for the last 11 years, so they could bust-through into central Florida now.

You -do- realize what happens to hurricanes when they travel 75 miles inland, don't you?

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2314185)
Actually PURE WATER does NOT conduct electricity, the impurities in the water do.

Can you tell me which Villages pools contain PURE WATER?

I want to know so I can go swimming there during the next electrical storm...

JMintzer 03-21-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2314189)
That's why in about 1950 Florida had about 6 million people (all living on the coast) - because A/C was NOT widely available.

Tallahassee (est 1824) is on the coast?

Gainesville (est 1854) is on the coast?

Interesting...

jimjamuser 03-21-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoNative (Post 2313892)
This is going to be our fourth full summer here. Yes, it’s hot and humid; It’s freakin’ Florida! However, after last year, we were almost ready to become snowbirds again.

El Niño made last year the absolute most uncomfortable summer we’ve ever experienced. It seemed like it went into the mid-upper 90s in March and stayed that way until Halloween. Even the nights and early mornings were miserably hot. Summers in Chicago have periods of heat and humidity, but you get a break every few days.

All that said, I’ve never once had to shovel heat or have ice dams break off the building gutter and crash through a wooden porch! I no longer have to wade through many unshoveled sidewalks, yellow snow, or endure multiple days of gray, sunless skies, and cabin fever is a thing of the past. Just like everything else, to each their own.

The whole planet is warming. that's why Florida summers feel warmer in last 10 years.

Stu from NYC 03-21-2024 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2314190)
You -do- realize what happens to hurricanes when they travel 75 miles inland, don't you?

Thinks that somehow GW will reverse that so they will get stronger. Anyone know if he has bought an EV yet so as to reduce his carbon footprint?

asianthree 03-21-2024 06:19 PM

So I am reading many will take the summer heat of Florida over winters up north.

It’s never winter up north when it’s 100 in Florida.

Maybe response should be I don’t own two residents, so would rather live full time in Florida than full time in snow country. Selling cold weather home for permanent home in TV.

All of of friends in TV, leave to either travel to their second home. Or travel extensively during summer returning in the fall.

Nancy@Pinellas 03-21-2024 06:20 PM

We’re from Michigan. We moved without doing seasonal visits. It’s hot, terribly hot. We do things in the mornings and evenings during the summer. We always take cold water with us wherever we go. We’ve adapted. We’d rather bear the heat than the cold. Good luck with your decision.

JMintzer 03-21-2024 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy@Pinellas (Post 2314201)
We’re from Michigan. We moved without doing seasonal visits. It’s hot, terribly hot. We do things in the mornings and evenings during the summer. We always take cold water with us wherever we go. We’ve adapted. We’d rather bear the heat than the cold. Good luck with your decision.

Who do you think you are, being all rational and sensible? :icon_wink:

Cute doggo, by the way!

Joe C. 03-21-2024 06:38 PM

As much as I prefer the northern winters over Florida summers, I do have to admit one thing:

A cold beer tastes much better in a hot Florida summer!

Pairadocs 03-21-2024 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2313600)
I assume the comparison is cold/snow vs. heat, not tornados vs. hurricanes.


I've lived in the North, during the winter, when I was unable to leave the house for a day or two or three (many times).

I've never been trapped in the house, during the summer, for a day or two or three in Florida.

:ho:

Right on ! When snow has drifted your DOORS and windows, and it's so heavy you can't go out until is gets down a bit, it does not compare to just going for a plunge in your own, or the nearest pool, or go to the beach (where the breezes never stop even on a hot day). Raised in south Florida, much more tropical, career wise lived in Illinois and in Iowa for a time.... talk about HOT ! Hot and the humidity generated by acres of corn, soy beans, etc. etc. and temperatures of 102, 104... just awful, summer or winter !

jasamy 03-21-2024 08:36 PM

Northern winters compared to Florida’s summer heat.
 
It takes a couple of summers to get use to the heat and humidity here in Florida. Then you tell yourself it’s still easier to stay indoors in AC or in the pool than it is to stay indoors, turn up the heat, look out at the dreary sky, and kiss your money good bye when the heating bills come in month after month. Granted it doesn’t snow every day but what is there to do during the winter if you don’t ski? It’s all about the lifestyle, the sunny weather without worrying about the icy roads or shoveling snow is just an added benefit one learns to live with.


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